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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 12 August 2013, 08:08:04
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Following the drama of exactly 1 calendar month ago, my best mate and I decided to make a start on clearing all the rubble from what was the lawn, so we could cut the grass. I was keen to try to keep the grass shortish, and ensure no large bits of rubble were left in it, getting half buried in the ground, waiting to be caught by a lawnmower and sent stright through a window in a few months time.
It certainly looks a lot tidier now, and we did make a start on rummaging through it to drag out anything recognisable for photographing, but didn't get too far... ...moving heavy rubble is hard work for 2 unfit, middle aged men on a hot day :-[
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/IMG_8647.JPG)
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/IMG_8648.JPG)
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/IMG_8658.JPG)
I think the big benefit of doing this was so that Mrs TB, who was out all day, could see that things were moving, as after a month of inactivity, it was beginning to get her down a bit :'(
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Certainly brings a new meaning to " I am going to have a garage clearout this weekend, it is in a right state"!.
In the second picture. Has your kitchen window frame melted at the top?
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In the second picture. Has your kitchen window frame melted at the top?
Yes...
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/IMG_8649.JPG)
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grief man. Are you a scrap metal dealer? I have seen tidier Gipsy back yards than that area in front of the lounge windows. ;D ;D
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Did you ever find out the cause?
Andy
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Looks lot better than before, good start :y
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What a sight :o :( Does the insurance not cover to clear the debris :-\
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too much metal and debris to carry :o
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Shit, TB ...that's a mess. But stick with it and you'll get there in the end. :y
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grief man. Are you a scrap metal dealer? I have seen tidier Gipsy back yards than that area in front of the lounge windows. ;D ;D
You could get the pikey's to collect it :y ;D ;D
On a serious note you were very lucky having noticed the gutter and upstairs window as well as the kitchen had melted :y
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I've been staring at those photos trying to make out the remains of anything that was in that garage. I've spotted what I think used to be a 'fridge and perhaps a Kwaka fuel tank, and that's about it. :(
Wasn't there a shed behind it, too?
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I reckon TB had been keeping his pressure cooker in there...
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Shit, TB ...that's a mess. But stick with it and you'll get there in the end. :y
Oi! Thats after I've tidied it ;D
Not just if its visible on the low res pics, but you can see where the rubble had been thrown to by the marks in the grass, so we made a hell of a start yesterday :)
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too much metal and debris to carry :o
Bricks, metal and wood is easily moved, although its a young man's graft - I slept like a baby last night. However, mechanical aids will be required to drag the floor out. Even then, it will need breaking up first.
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Bloody hell TB!! :o :o :o :o :o
What a mess! Thank God you or no one else was hurt.
Any insurance to cover the damage and rubble clearance? ???
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Had a rummage at lunchtime, and pulled out all the rusty poles that can be seen in the first pic.
So, lunchtime I found, identified and removed:
A stool and table set that we had used once :'(
My (in)famous table and small chair set, that was always the source of entertainment at OOF meets, which was older than me :'(
The large blue table that those who attend Newent would reconise as the cooking table (often with a windbreak around it) :'(
Small cooker stand
Large cooker stand with cupboard/tables either side, melted to our camping wardrobe
2 lounger chairs
2 of those folder up chairs often seen for sale at motorway services
Picnic type chair. Also found other, but its welded itself to some rubble
Big tent, aka greenhouse/anderson shelter :'(
Small tent
Event Shelter
Campbed (just one so far :-\)
Remains of a tarpaulin
She's photographing that now
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Did you ever find out the cause?
Andy
A big bang. A very big bang ;D
I don't think we'll ever find out for definate, dispite have Fire Service forensics and the insurance forensics teams out.
TBH, I get a feeling that these guys, as nobody, miraculously, was physically hurt, were more interested in checking for malicious activity, or a feud between neighbours. Many OOFers have met my neighbour, so know how unlikely that is.
The Fire Service believe that an electrical fire started, setting off a half used 1.8kg 904 campingaz cylinder (the one I use on the camping heater, for those that have been to camping meets).
The insurance forensics blieve the (same) cylinder leaked, and then the gas was ignited.
Given the sequence of events, I'm more towards the insurance forensics sequence of events. The Fire Service investigator was a spitting image of Marks DTM, both in looks, speech and mannerisms. MDTM - do you have a twin bro called Neil? If not, quiz your dad, I think you have a half brother ;D
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What?!?!?! I thought Mark was the smartest guy I knew... ??? ;D
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Hmm. I've had those Camping Gaz cylinders leak before. The ball bearing seal often doesn't seat properly when you unscrew the regulator, then the rubber washer on the cap is often perished... Combine that with something that creates a spark every so often (thermostat on 'fridge or compressor starter / overload device). ::)
I used to have a few Gaz cylinders in the cupboard under the stairs. :o
They're well away in the shed now.
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Hmm. I've had those Camping Gaz cylinders leak before. The ball bearing seal often doesn't seat properly when you unscrew the regulator, then the rubber washer on the cap is often perished... Combine that with something that creates a spark every so often (thermostat on 'fridge or compressor starter / overload device). ::)
I used to have a few Gaz cylinders in the cupboard under the stairs. :o
They're well away in the shed now.
And you invited us 'round to your gaffe for a 'social' next week ... :o
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Christ what a mess!!! :o :'(
Are you sure you weren't distilling moonshine? ??? ;D
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Hmm. I've had those Camping Gaz cylinders leak before. The ball bearing seal often doesn't seat properly when you unscrew the regulator, then the rubber washer on the cap is often perished... Combine that with something that creates a spark every so often (thermostat on 'fridge or compressor starter / overload device). ::)
I used to have a few Gaz cylinders in the cupboard under the stairs. :o
They're well away in the shed now.
And you invited us 'round to your gaffe for a 'social' next week ... :o
Don't worry Seth, after the Firework meet it will be no problem ;D ;D
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MDTM - do you have a twin bro called Neil? If not, quiz your dad, I think you have a half brother ;D
Just checked with the milkman and he claims to know nothing about it
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Quite incredible pictures. So much damage from so little gas. :o
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Quite incredible pictures. So much damage from so little gas. :o
Near as I can tell, 0.7 kg of gas is about 1m3, so 900g would be getting on for 1.2m3, or in lay terms about 5% of the volume of an empty domestic garage. Fill said space with stuff, and ignite it, the results speak for themselves :'(
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and then the insurance says "sorry, you're not covered, cos we specifically said in paragraph F(u) of the policy - 'no storing of gas cylinders' " :-[ :-[ :-[
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Quite incredible pictures. So much damage from so little gas. :o
I'm sorry but why did I immediately think of Jimbob when I read this!! ;D ;D ;D
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;D
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Clearup is progressing, 4 skips today :)
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/IMG_8791.JPG)
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Looks a good start!
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Progress at last. :y
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Its only been 5 weeks today ::)
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I bet you cried with relief when the digger showed up :y
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Its only been 5 weeks today ::)
I don't know the full SP, but I'm glad you & your missus are still vertical and hope that your losses are as minimal as possible (I'd be proper peed about the bike if that were me though).
Hope it all gets better soon bud.
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They certainly managed to get rid of a shit load of stuff in the past couple of days. Hopefully, should be able to start getting some quotes for rebuild in the next week or so.
Looks like the foundations of the garage have survived, so that should speed rebuild.
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Any sign of Sammy yet?
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Any sign of Sammy yet?
Nope. No sign of the 2 4lb club hammers that were in the garage, which is surprising.
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Any sign of Sammy yet?
Nope. No sign of the 2 4lb club hammers that were in the garage, which is surprising.
TB, they are probably a few doors down...... ;D
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TB, they are probably a few doors down...... ;D
You really mean ... down Oxford way ... ;D
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This morning....
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/garagemissing.jpg)
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Your fence could do with a coat of stain (or used Gen GM) whilst your at it TB! ::) :)
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Your fence could do with a coat of stain (or used Gen GM) whilst your at it TB! ::) :)
I burnt it ;D
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Has the floor area shrunk?
That's crying out for extending to the fence. :)
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Has the floor area shrunk?
That's crying out for extending to the fence. :)
and to the side! You don't need all that patio do you? ::)
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Has the floor area shrunk?
That's crying out for extending to the fence. :)
and to the side! You don't need all that patio do you? ::)
It would save jetwashing it ;D
Your fence could do with a coat of stain (or used Gen GM) whilst your at it TB! ::) :)
I burnt it ;D
I have about 25 litres here if you'd like some more ::)
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Has the floor area shrunk?
That's crying out for extending to the fence. :)
and to the side! You don't need all that patio do you? ::)
I know of a 2 post lift for sale. :D Something good should come of this.
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Trouble is, if he extends it there'll be even more space for his stock of GM Spares ::)
Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
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Trouble is, if he extends it there'll be even more space for his stock of GM Spares ::)
Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
I think he may have found some "spare" LPG.. ::)
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Yes if he can do that much damage with a standard size garage...
...no, bad idea. ;D
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Good to see we're all sympathetic :-X ::) ;D
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This morning....
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/garagemissing.jpg)
mmmmm.. if I had that sort of large area I would install a paint cabin ;D and start painting my car :)
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This morning....
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/garagemissing.jpg)
mmmmm.. if I had that sort of large area I would install a paint cabin ;D and start painting my car :)
Having highly flammable paint thinners in TB's garage may not be a good idea. :o :o :o :o
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This morning....
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/garagemissing.jpg)
mmmmm.. if I had that sort of large area I would install a paint cabin ;D and start painting my car :)
That is small, even tiny area Cem...... ;) ;)
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Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
Yeah, this is all that is left
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/lpg_spares.JPG)
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This morning....
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/garagemissing.jpg)
mmmmm.. if I had that sort of large area I would install a paint cabin ;D and start painting my car :)
Having highly flammable paint thinners in TB's garage may not be a good idea. :o :o :o :o
probably, but currently 60 litre of highly flammable thinner waiting iin my stairs to be used :o ;D
and I'm not counting silicone removers , paints , solvents , polishes etc :(
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Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
Yeah, this is all that is left
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/lpg_spares.JPG)
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Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
Yeah, this is all that is left
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/lpg_spares.JPG)
I can make out a filter and some tank mounting bolts but that's all :o Is/was that a coil of cable on the top?
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Have you managed to find the LPG spares yet :-X ::)
Yeah, this is all that is left
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/lpg_spares.JPG)
(http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/images/Smokekit2.jpg)
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I can make out a filter and some tank mounting bolts but that's all :o Is/was that a coil of cable on the top?
Only found the one filter, despite having 2 1-into-2 for MV6, and 2 normal ones for TBE.
The coil looks to be a mixure of poly and cable.
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I can see you're having hours of fun trying to identify all your old crap! :)
You could hold a competition on here, post a photo and call it WTF was this? ;D
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I can see you're having hours of fun trying to identify all your old crap! :)
You could hold a competition on here, post a photo and call it WTF was this? ;D
Are, an idea for the Newent quiz ;D
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
Bigger Garage?? Bigger Bang Jammie :-X
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
a larger garage will be very nice esp with a lift.. you know why ? its very easy to polish and sand the lower areas of the car without breaking your body ;D :y
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and I can send some highly flammable substance for starters ::) ;D :y
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
a larger garage will be very nice esp with a lift.. you know why ? its very easy to polish and sand the lower areas of the car without breaking your body ;D :y
It was never going to be wide enough for a lift :(
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
Thought you two were on similar thoughts on this?
Planning permission required to put up same as before?
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
a larger garage will be very nice esp with a lift.. you know why ? its very easy to polish and sand the lower areas of the car without breaking your body ;D :y
It was never going to be wide enough for a lift :(
imo you have the big chance now , dont miss it :y
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Thought you two were on similar thoughts on this?
Plans sometimes have to change, not always our doing :'(
Planning permission required to put up same as before?
Yup :'(
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
a larger garage will be very nice esp with a lift.. you know why ? its very easy to polish and sand the lower areas of the car without breaking your body ;D :y
It was never going to be wide enough for a lift :(
imo you have the big chance now , dont miss it :y
Sadly just not viable to get the required width to make a lift work. So, not gonna happen, never was
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Thought you two were on similar thoughts on this?
Plans sometimes have to change, not always our doing :'(
Planning permission required to put up same as before?
Yup :'(
Bugger :(
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Looks like we have the drawings at long frakkin last :D
Also looks like we have got to get planning permission >:(
Lastly, not sure if the plans for a larger one can go ahead, as thats dependent on us both agreeing to it, and paying the extra, and there lays a snag. Not sure if I'm diasppointed of not :-\
a larger garage will be very nice esp with a lift.. you know why ? its very easy to polish and sand the lower areas of the car without breaking your body ;D :y
It was never going to be wide enough for a lift :(
imo you have the big chance now , dont miss it :y
Sadly just not viable to get the required width to make a lift work. So, not gonna happen, never was
sorry to hear that :( :-\
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How much extra was it to increase it.....
And is it worth you paying double to get what you want if neighbour cant afford it?
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Thought you two were on similar thoughts on this?
Plans sometimes have to change, not always our doing :'(
Planning permission required to put up same as before?
Yup :'(
Bugger :(
Somebody please explain why planning is needed to re build a previously existing structure...?
Although, if planning is needed, may as well apply for a bigger structure. Then decide if you go that big or not...?
Surely you could have extended the previous garage with a flat roof anyway...? No ? :-\
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no idea about the legal requirements for a bigger garage but a few more feet may not cost very different ..
in case there are other parameters that stop you :-\
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Can you incorporate a pit into your garage plans? ??? :-\
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Can you incorporate a pit into your garage plans? ??? :-\
Can't see that happening :(
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do not need permision to make it bigger!! under permitted development an extension you can go up to a meter wider with no permission other than asking neighbour if he minds, thats what i did at Ardley,after checking with the council?
bit cheeky really cos the man came after complaints about the height of my fence :'( so i made the fence the regulation 1 meter high and with the inspectors full permission extended the garage!! lol
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Thought you two were on similar thoughts on this?
Plans sometimes have to change, not always our doing :'(
Planning permission required to put up same as before?
Yup :'(
Bugger :(
Somebody please explain why planning is needed to re build a previously existing structure...?
Although, if planning is needed, may as well apply for a bigger structure. Then decide if you go that big or not...?
Surely you could have extended the previous garage with a flat roof anyway...? No ? :-\
Fooked if I know. Was initially informed of this by loss adjuster, then by builder who cleared up, then by surveyor that this was a possibility. This has now been confirmed >:(. Its all 'dangle berries'.
So we need to get quick, rough quotes for both designs that we have drawings for, then making a decision which one to submit for planning consideration.
Might have to get drawings redone, as the oppswit surveyor as clearly got the side door/windows in the wrong place. I can't draw, but even I could get that right, esp as he had full access to an identical structure 2 doors down >:(
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Can you incorporate a pit into your garage plans? ??? :-\
No, as surveyor is saying floor needs to be block and beam. Not sure why, or what the advanatges/disadvantages of that are. I'm guessing cost, but might be wrong.
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So no word from the council planning office/the horses mouth then? And everything from people who haven't seen what was there before...?
Anyway, time will tell. :-\
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Can you incorporate a pit into your garage plans? ??? :-\
No, as surveyor is saying floor needs to be block and beam. Not sure why, or what the advanatges/disadvantages of that are. I'm guessing cost, but might be wrong.
I wouldn't want beam and block in a garage. I would be constantly worried that the steel wheels on my trolley jack were going to break a block and disappear into the floor void :-\
Reinforced concrete is the answer in a workshop :y
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Can you incorporate a pit into your garage plans? ??? :-\
No, as surveyor is saying floor needs to be block and beam. Not sure why, or what the advanatges/disadvantages of that are. I'm guessing cost, but might be wrong.
I wouldn't want beam and block in a garage. I would be constantly worried that the steel wheels on my trolley jack were going to break a block and disappear into the floor void :-\
Reinforced concrete is the answer in a workshop :y
S'not big enough to do car work in garage - house is 12yrs old, so small garage.
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There's no room to get a jack around an omega in a single garage anyway.
In fact, if my garage is anything to go by, there's no room for an omega. Not and shut the door as well.
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HSE has some slightly scary stuff on inspection pits http://www.vehicleinspectionpits.com/hse-guidance.html (http://www.vehicleinspectionpits.com/hse-guidance.html)
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egay has two post lists at intriguing prices http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/2-post-lift (http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/2-post-lift) (buy it now for £1,120)
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egay has two post lists at intriguing prices http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/2-post-lift (http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/2-post-lift) (buy it now for £1,120)
Not much use in a standard sized single garage, though. I've considered one in my garage that's 11' wide with 8'6" of clearance and came to the conclusion that it'd be barely worth it.
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Again, its pretty pointless having a pit in a single garage. Especially having seen what TB keeps in his. It "was" difficult for one person to get in there on occasion. Never mind get a car over a pit. ALL the tools , fridges, bench, pillar drill, grinder, compressor, camping gear, roof box, shelving, blah blah will have to go along the back wall of the garage.
That ain't going to work for TB. ;D
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You do need planning for such cases, if the garage was rebuilt using what was left of the existing walls then you can actualy wriggle through a loop hole (as its considered a restoration) but as soon as the site is cleared to floor level then planning is required.
Of course building control is required to.
The additional cost of making it a bit longer should only be a few K at most, if its more than this then somebody is taking the urine.
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The additional cost of making it a bit longer should only be a few K at most, if its more than this then somebody is taking the urine.
It would have to be very cheap, seeing as both my neighbour and I are having to deal with upcoming changes in careers. Law of sod I'm afraid.
I'm actually not as disappointed as I thought I would be over the thought of the garage being the original size. TBH, just having a garage of any description would be a godsend.
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
If I'm honest, I think its looking less and less likely. Can only happen if we both do it, and my neighbours future looks less certain then mine, so he may need to tighten his belt.
And whats the gain? Room for even more shite?
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
If I'm honest, I think its looking less and less likely. Can only happen if we both do it, and my neighbours future looks less certain then mine, so he may need to tighten his belt.
And whats the gain? Room for even more shite?
Which you need. As I'm sure Mrs TB will agree. ;) ;D
You need a double garage, as do I, in fact most of us do. This has to be the cheapest possible way to achieve more space. An opportunity not to be missed. It will cost more in the long run.
I remember discussions about extending it prior to. I don't recall Mr Neighbour being involved then...? :(
Anyway, its early days yet I guess? Getting a price and details on planning can't cost much? ...or can it? :-\
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
very rarely I agree you Chris.. but now is the time ;D
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
very rarely I agree you Chris.. but now is the time ;D
Wo up. Maybe your right TB. Circumstances dictate, etc.... ;D
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Double garage, yes. We all need that, to be able to work out of the rain. But a double simply isn't viable under any circumstance here.
Given I can't work on car in garage as its too narrow, not sure I can see the gain in length, now I actually come to weigh up the options.
Reality is I'll never get another bike, so thats a huge chunk of room freed up, that ZX10 was enormous.
If its just to make more space, well, I had a large shed behind the garage (when I had visions of parking the car in the garage), dont think you ever saw that. Obviously what happened was teh shed was filled with shite, and the garage was too :-[. Now if I seperated the extended bit off and made a proper workshop with drills, lathes etc ::).
I've learnt the expensive way that its not worth picking up and stocking spares, so thats at least 2 of the shelving units I no longer need...
Now Mrs TB has finished college, she's started to sort out her crafty room, so that should take a lot of crap from kitchen, dining room and spare bedroom. I need to tidy my little room as well :-[
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Do it. Do it now, or it will never happen, IMO.
very rarely I agree you Chris.. but now is the time ;D
The question I'd asked myself since the neighbour's job news is "what will I gain?"
I've dreamt about extending it for ages. But now when I ask the question, I can't answer it....
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...all the space to the back fence, no?
Its so much easier to work when there is space to move.
Given that odds suggest your not likely to have another "incident", and you'll have learned some safety aspects(I've still not put all my potions from the shelves into the metal cupboard btw ::) ) I have no doubts a tidy garage collection will accumulate very quickly, and the parts will arrive weather they are wanted or not is my guess. They just do ;D
In short, back to square one will arrive all too quickly if you don't, and the value/desirability of the house will be enhanced if you do. :)
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If that were to happen, I'd just fill up the larger area with more crap. Back to square 1, only more skips reqd ;D
As to house value, as it seriously eats in to garden area, and its a house likely to be bought by a growing family, not sure the larger garage v smaller garden would significantly impact value. Probably enough to get my money back.
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............I've dreamt about extending it for ages. But now when I ask the question, I can't answer it....
Personally, from working on a car point of view, I think you gain from width, not length, especially for engine related work. I have a single garage but can't get down the side of the car to work on it once the nose is in. I could do with it being wider once inside the door just to allow you to manoeuvre. The problem with this is, as my mate found out, you have to be very careful jacking up just one side of the car when it is half in and half out, otherwise you end up with a crease in the car door where the garage door upright has dug in to it. ::) ::) ;D
The extra width would eat in to your garden though and Mrs TB wouldn't be too happy looking out of her kitchen window and seeing a wall. ;D ;D
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Having google earthed you (yes I'm spying on you right now ;D )It's not actually as big a gain in area as I thought. :-\
Although, to me, its waisted currently, will get damp as its surrounded on 3 sides so poorly planned originally, so should be part of the garage, given your needs. Just fill it with useful stuff and not crap. Seeemples. ;)
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Having google earthed you (yes I'm spying on you right now ;D )It's not actually as big a gain in area as I thought. :-\
Although, to me, its waisted currently, will get damp as its surrounded on 3 sides so poorly planned originally, so should be part of the garage, given your needs. Just fill it with useful stuff and not crap. Seeemples. ;)
If I keep to that last bit, I can probably do with a half garage ;D
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Ah, I see my old shed is on Google maps, complete with ripped felt ;D.
That must be a few years back
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Ah, I see my old shed is on Google maps, complete with ripped felt ;D.
That must be a few years back
And a Rover on the drive :'(
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Ah, I see my old shed is on Google maps, complete with ripped felt ;D .
That must be a few years back
And a Rover on the drive :'(
it was red and very nice shiny car :-\ shame its gone..
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...plus the shadows shown on g maps won't help the damp in that corner. The sun will never get in there. Your neighbours on the other hand, has a nice little sun trap.
As one of the guys at work would say... Get it built lad! ;)
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No, not having this ;D
On further reflection... Man up ya big gay. No MANS garage is ever big enough. Ever. :P ;D
Mine has a shed just outside the back door you may remember. It's falling down, slowly. So I'm considering a custom made shed, where the garage back door opens directly into, an 8ft wide by 14ft space.
Now, if my garage had been destroyed, ignoring the fact I'd no longer be here btw as our garage is on the side of the house :o , I'd be adding a brick structure in place of the shed if at all possible. No doubt there.
Poof ! ;D
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No, as surveyor is saying floor needs to be block and beam. Not sure why, or what the advanatges/disadvantages of that are. I'm guessing cost, but might be wrong.
I wouldn't want beam and block in a garage. I would be constantly worried that the steel wheels on my trolley jack were going to break a block and disappear into the floor void :-\
Reinforced concrete is the answer in a workshop :y
Erm you do realise you dont just leave it as block and beam? There is a screed that goes down on top so very little chance of jack wheels dropping through.
Reasons for block and beam would be most likely due to ground heave. Guessing its a clay soil. The void under the floor leaves room for it to move.
If it was a raft it would crack. Plus cost of deep strip foundation would be far too expensive
Oh and Ive just about finished my garage, interanally its 4.5m wide and 10m long, plenty of room to get at least 2 cars in, unfortunately its highly unlikely to ever see a car in it while i own the house!!
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TB, I would keep the garage the same size, the extra bit at the back would be a seperate room/outhouse. This could have an access door into the garage or one to the garden.
This gives you multiple options as it can then be insulated to a higher standard (potentialy in the future) and used for many more purposes than storage.
Or it could simply be a better built shed (did you loose a shed also?)
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The main thing you'd need to work on cars in there is width*, and that won't be so easy to gain, so I'd agree that it's not really worth messing about just for what will only ever be a bit more storage space.
* - But it's easy to build, store and work on a Lotus 7 style car in a single garage, and you need a replacement for the kwaka(RIP)
So, there you go. Spend the money on a starter kit and a donor car instead. Solution. :y
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TB, I would keep the garage the same size, the extra bit at the back would be a seperate room/outhouse. This could have an access door into the garage or one to the garden.
This gives you multiple options as it can then be insulated to a higher standard (potentialy in the future) and used for many more purposes than storage.
Or it could simply be a better built shed (did you loose a shed also?)
Ah, an office*, so freeing up a bedroom. :y
(Ponders own needs and ignores TB's) .... Nah, bigger garage. ;) ;D
*which in TB's world means server room. :o
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Or, as many do in Slough. Rent it out. :o
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TB, I would keep the garage the same size, the extra bit at the back would be a seperate room/outhouse. This could have an access door into the garage or one to the garden.
This gives you multiple options as it can then be insulated to a higher standard (potentialy in the future) and used for many more purposes than storage.
Or it could simply be a better built shed (did you loose a shed also?)
The shed was removed 3 or 4 years back, and now lives on (with fresh felt ;D) over at my little bro's.
Now he has a nice 3 berth garage, but still swamped by his neighbour - Mum - with her 4 berth, with a brick workshop out the back. Lucky mare.
Office style space is probably what I would make it *if* its financially viable to both me and my neighbour. We both need to do it, else its unworkable (or flat roof, which I do not want). This would add the most value, even though it would only ever be used to store junk while I live there.
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Mind you, would having it as office space affect future insurance?
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...plus the shadows shown on g maps won't help the damp in that corner. The sun will never get in there. Your neighbours on the other hand, has a nice little sun trap.
As one of the guys at work would say... Get it built lad! ;)
The reason we got rid of the shed was because that area gets the best of the afternoon/evening sun. We did plan to patio/deck/something with it, and reduce the size of existing patio. Never got round to it.
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OK, we have planning permission sorted a few weeks ago :D
We have the insurance companies agreement to go ahead :D
Next problem, delay on bricks >:(
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Yes. I think the Parcelforce postage costs put him off sending more... ...that and Mrs TB's sense of humour failure over it ;D
But it didn't match anyway :P
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Yes. I think the Parcelforce postage costs put him off sending more... ...that and Mrs TB's sense of humour failure over it ;D
But it didn't match anyway :P
Is this the attempted delivery, that happened, while you where out fetching the parcel I sent you?
You know. The delivery card saying pick up from depo as you where out, because you where out collecting my parcel FROM THE SAME DEPO? ;D ;D ;D
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That's the one ;D
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Oi! am I being stitched-up? >:(
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Oi! am I being stitched-up? >:(
Yep! ;D
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Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh!
What's going on 'ere then?
Is that nursie wetting his bloomers again?!
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bomb damage????
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Yes. I think the Parcelforce postage costs put him off sending more... ...that and Mrs TB's sense of humour failure over it ;D
But it didn't match anyway :P
Is this the attempted delivery, that happened, while you where out fetching the parcel I sent you?
You know. The delivery card saying pick up from depo as you where out, because you where out collecting my parcel FROM THE SAME DEPO? ;D ;D ;D
Yours was from RM sorting office, Arsehole Force is 25 miles away.
But yes. And I too have sense of humour failures, believe it or not :P
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Oi! am I being stitched-up? >:(
You didn't do *anything* to cover your tracks, so this was easily pinned on you. Remember, I know your surname ;)
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Yes. I think the Parcelforce postage costs put him off sending more... ...that and Mrs TB's sense of humour failure over it ;D
But it didn't match anyway :P
Is this the attempted delivery, that happened, while you where out fetching the parcel I sent you?
You know. The delivery card saying pick up from depo as you where out, because you where out collecting my parcel FROM THE SAME DEPO? ;D ;D ;D
Yours was from RM sorting office, Arsehole Force is 25 miles away.
But yes. And I too have sense of humour failures, believe it or not :P
Yes I don't blame you, but as it wasn't mine, the secure option was used. It wasn't until after it was sent did I realise that you would almost certainly be out, and your posties are honest enough not to hide it behind a bush, or with a neighbour , unlike ours.
I did apologise if you remember.
Obviously I didn't know there was another delivery. Not that will give anybody ideas of course. ;D
....still, at least we can laugh about it now. Eh! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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....still, at least we can laugh about it now. Eh! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can we ???
:P ;D
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Did Guffer only send you one then ::)
Oi! am I being stitched-up? >:(
You didn't do *anything* to cover your tracks, so this was easily pinned on you. Remember, I know your surname ;)
As do many people on here. :y
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....still, at least we can laugh about it now. Eh! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can we ???
:P ;D
Ooooohohooo yeah! ;D ;)
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Gone for a brick that's not a great match, but is immediately available.
TBH, its got to the stage where I couldn't care less, we need a garage again.
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Do you know the cost to build one , would be interested in cost . Guessing its a standard one car size garage :-\
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I've built my own garage recently - 6x4m with an 8ft roller door at one end and a 6ft roller door plus a regular door at the other... total bill is about £3,900
That is doing everything myself so no labour costs.
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I've built my own garage recently - 6x4m with an 8ft roller door at one end and a 6ft roller door plus a regular door at the other... total bill is about £3,900
That is doing everything myself so no labour costs.
Jeebus that's cheap .. I had a quote once upon a time for a similar size garage; £25k.. the lowest was £14k if I didn't want a door! Labour is expensive..
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Do you know the cost to build one , would be interested in cost . Guessing its a standard one car size garage :-\
As insurance are paying, all the quotes were high IMHO - the joint garage is the wrong side of £30k.
If I managed it personally, and used labourers as opposed to a building firm, I reckon I could get it under £20k.
That's for both my neighbour's and my garage, which were one building.
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Jeebus that's cheap .. I had a quote once upon a time for a similar size garage; £25k.. the lowest was £14k if I didn't want a door! Labour is expensive..
I had quotes of between 16-20k to build it - so decided to do it myself, it took me about 4-5months but I've saved about 15k - or more to the point I wouldn't have been able to do it if I paid someone else.
Something that a lot of my friends have commented on is what a good idea having roller doors at both ends is - as the garage is the width of the garden is means I can still easily get large stuff through to the house.
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I've built my own garage recently - 6x4m with an 8ft roller door at one end and a 6ft roller door plus a regular door at the other... total bill is about £3,900
That is doing everything myself so no labour costs.
Sounds good :y My dad is a brickie so i will see what he thinks to that price , is that price including both doors :-\
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Sounds good :y My dad is a brickie so i will see what he thinks to that price , is that price including both doors :-\
Yep - the front 8ft door is an electric roller (£420) - the back roller is a manual one (£250) , the UPVC pedestrian door I got on eBay for £40 :)
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If I could have got planning* I'd probably have gone for a garage big enough to block garden access, as you have, in which case I'd have stuck a big door in the side for the same reason :y
*As it was I was too scared of the planning process and too broke to afford the quotes for the garage! So I ended up with a sub building regs sized concrete monstrosity ;)
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Sounds good :y My dad is a brickie so i will see what he thinks to that price , is that price including both doors :-\
Yep - the front 8ft door is an electric roller (£420) - the back roller is a manual one (£250) , the UPVC pedestrian door I got on eBay for £40 :)
Sounds good , if i have one built will just have a normal door on the back leading into the garden so this will be the only access to the back making it secure . Garage will probably be garage and half size :) Roofing mite be a challenge but would rather have a sloping roof than flat .
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I built a flat roof, but covered it using EPDM rubber - one piece to cover the entire thing so shouldn't ever leak - was about £280 including all the gutter trims etc.
UPVC Fascia trims were £70 roughly from a local window place to go right the way around
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I built a flat roof, but covered it using EPDM rubber - one piece to cover the entire thing so shouldn't ever leak - was about £280 including all the gutter trims etc.
UPVC Fascia trims were £70 roughly from a local window place to go right the way around
That looks like excellent stuff , didnt realize you could buy stuff like that .. would be ideal :y
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I get back from a week away, and some bricks have been laid :).
This morning, the beams for the floor turned up, and the blocks are due this afternoon :)
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
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TB
For us newbies what actually happened to your garage?
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TB
For us newbies what actually happened to your garage?
See photo on page 1 of this thread. :y
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
Apparently the surveyor insisted on it: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117172.msg1506529#msg1506529
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
Apparently the surveyor insisted on it: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117172.msg1506529#msg1506529
Wrong type of clay or summat ::)
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
Apparently the surveyor insisted on it: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117172.msg1506529#msg1506529
Wrong type of clay or summat ::)
Brackley clay is like concrete :o
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TB
For us newbies what actually happened to your garage?
Just think BANG ::)
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TB
For us newbies what actually happened to your garage?
Just think BANG ::)
Only bigger and more shouty :y
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Only bigger and more shouty :y
Same as Jamie then .......... ::) ::) ;)
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Like this...
BANG
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
Yup. I always wondered why both the garage and house were on a suspended floor, and its only when going through planning for the garage rebuild that its due to "shrinking clay", whatever the hell that is. Google turns up a load of conflicting info as to what it is.
Whatever, planning would not allow a solid floor for the garage.
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Blocks just arrived, just as I saw the builders drive the other way ;D
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It's clay. That shrinks. Duh :P
Probably in the cold.. I think we can all relate.
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Blocks just arrived, just as I saw the builders drive the other way ;D
Thec prospect of unloading them does that to people ;D
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TB
For us newbies what actually happened to your garage?
One morning last summer, it instantaneously went from:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/prefire_zps828dc9a3.jpg)
to:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/fire1_zps3d2512fc.jpg)
Made a mess of the car as well :(
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/tbe1_zpse4ffeaee.jpg)
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That second photo is ripe for some captions, from two firemen ;D
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Block and beam floor in a garage?
Yup. I always wondered why both the garage and house were on a suspended floor, and its only when going through planning for the garage rebuild that its due to "shrinking clay", whatever the hell that is. Google turns up a load of conflicting info as to what it is.
Whatever, planning would not allow a solid floor for the garage.
Very odd, for a few reasons.
1) Planning dont have a clue about anything structural, that is a building control job (guessing a full plans submission so its pre-approved and the builder can ignore it as they tend to ;D ;D).
2) A properly constructed concrete floor bears on both the ground underneath and the foundations.
It quite usual to have a house with BnB build but a garage has much greater point loads, hence my surprise (
checking the suppliers sites it seems to be possible although its recommended to use a stronger beam at circa 170mm wide and it must have a steel reinforced screed on top......so get your tape measure out!)
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I presume there's a risk the clay underneath can dry out, and hence retract. There by leaving a normal concrete floor un supported and at risk from cracking...?
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I presume there's a risk the clay underneath can dry out, and hence retract. There by leaving a normal concrete floor un supported and at risk from cracking...?
If the floor was reliant on the clay for support........as said, a reinforced slab which extends to the poured foundations would not be reliant on the clay underneath.....
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1) Planning dont have a clue about anything structural, that is a building control job (guessing a full plans submission so its pre-approved and the builder can ignore it as they tend to ;D ;D).
I know planning made some insistence on it, possibly because the architect said it needed it. The builders have had the building inspectors out to check if its necessary, and apparently it is.
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so get your tape measure out!)
Guess where I kept them all...
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As said, planning are not able to enforce such matters (they may, and its a very long shot, offer a condition or advisory but its VERY rare) and wont even review such detail as the document submission requirement for planning wont have this level of detail on it :y
For them its all appearance, sustainability, impact, yada yada yada
Building control however can insist on it (even if its not best solution) and they will review the approve the strutural build etc in line with the building regs. :y
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Just checked your planning confirmation letter, no reference to 'structual' items, just the usual, must start within this time frame, finish, material colour etc.
Your plans (which are pretty naff actualy, an architect to avoid in the future I would advise) have been drawn up for planning and building regs and hence the extra 'words' (the naff bit as its not very prescriptive, not good with builders involved) relating to floor construction method.
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The architect was a tosser. I might have told him so as well ::).
Fortunately, I wasn't paying for him. It was one of the complications of too many parties involved, all refusing to communicate with each other, and the "customer" (my neighbour and I) constantly running around trying to get information from them all, which is biggest reason that 11 months (to the day) later, we're only just seeing some movement >:(
If anyone has a claim in with their insurance and its gets outsourced to loss adjusters Crawfords (or their subsidery, Crawco), go back to your insurance and insist that their take it back in-house, as Crawfords are wholly, totally inept. By inept, I mean 3 weeks to reply to simple queries.
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What did you do with the irmy bumper , chuck it :-\
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/tbe1_zpse4ffeaee.jpg)
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He had it fixed :y
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
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He had it fixed :y
Thanks ;) Wow even blew the door mirror off :o
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Let's just say that he's not going to try sprout vindaloo again in a hurry. ;D ;D
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Block and beam floor is required in clay to avoid ground heave.
Although clay can dry out it and shrink it can also get wet and expand, this would then 'push' on the floor if it was a floating slab and crack not just the slab but put pressure on the footings and possibly damage the whole structure
It can be overcome with clay board that compresses, but as the clay shrinks back it can leave voids. As its a garage the floor will be designed to take a lot more weight than a domestic house floor and voids would potentially be a bad thing.
Making the oversite and concrete slab thicker then becomes cost prohibitive, hence the block and beam or suspended floor
A lot of cracking in buildings isnt due to subsidence but actually ground heave
Of course if you can chat up the builder with a suspended floor and a bit of extra dig/ design/ hide from building inspector you could have a nice pit to work in under the car ;)
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
Did the ZX10 have a powersounder ? :-\
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Had Jimbob been round for a curry?
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
Did the ZX10 have a powersounder ? :-\
They weren't alarmed back then. Not even immobilised :y
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Walls are now at head height :)
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
Did the ZX10 have a powersounder ? :-\
They weren't alarmed back then. Not even immobilised :y
Back then? Back then they didn't have enough power to rub two sticks together, back then. ;D
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Walls are now at head height :)
I think a pic is on order Mr admin sir?
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
Did the ZX10 have a powersounder ? :-\
They weren't alarmed back then. Not even immobilised :y
Back then? Back then they didn't have enough power to rub two sticks together, back then. ;D
My battery rarely had the power to turn the starter over ;D
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Walls are now at head height :)
I think a pic is on order Mr admin sir?
I had a feeling someone would say that, but I'm struggling with one of my gay illnesses, so it'll have to wait until next time I get up :-[
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Yes I got the BANG and can see the before and after but how/why or am I missing something? ???
Well? How did it go BANG? :(
The exact cause was never confirmed, and there are differences of opinion to the actual cause, but the actual bang was a small, half empty capmingaz cylinder
Did the ZX10 have a powersounder ? :-\
They weren't alarmed back then. Not even immobilised :y
Back then? Back then they didn't have enough power to rub two sticks together, back then. ;D
My battery rarely had the power to turn the starter over ;D
;D
Well, I know you where unsure what to do with it. I guess you had your mind made up for you. :(
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Well, I know you where unsure what to do with it. I guess you had your mind made up for you. :(
True - I kept toying with something newer (and oil tight!), and a little less highly strung when starting, but I'm not a Ninja boy, it was a commute tool, and the low insurance (about £80 a year, FC, pillions and ride other bikes) helped keep running costs to virtually sod all.
So sad to see it go :'(
Will I replace it? Dunno. Probably not :'(
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Well, I know you where unsure what to do with it. I guess you had your mind made up for you. :(
True - I kept toying with something newer (and oil tight!), and a little less highly strung when starting, but I'm not a Ninja boy, it was a commute tool, and the low insurance (about £80 a year, FC, pillions and ride other bikes) helped keep running costs to virtually sod all.
So sad to see it go :'(
Will I replace it? Dunno. Probably not :'(
Its a young mans game.
I used to be young dumb and full of come. ;D
Now I'm just old bold and full of mould. :(
;D
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Well, I know you where unsure what to do with it. I guess you had your mind made up for you. :(
True - I kept toying with something newer (and oil tight!), and a little less highly strung when starting, but I'm not a Ninja boy, it was a commute tool, and the low insurance (about £80 a year, FC, pillions and ride other bikes) helped keep running costs to virtually sod all.
So sad to see it go :'(
Will I replace it? Dunno. Probably not :'(
Its a young mans game.
I used to be young dumb and full of come. ;D
Now I'm just old bold and full of mould. :(
;D
True, but it knocks my often 1.5hr morning commute (40 mins on school hols) down to about 50mins.
Unlike most middle aged Ninja brigade, speed wasn't a measure of manhood for me (though acceleration, and a good set of bends can be addictive). That said, the quality and concentration of the organic matter driving in their tin cans makes it more and more dangerous.
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Speed is the only reason for buying one. And accept the risks. Anything else is gay, and purely exposure to unnecessary risk, without the plus's. Best left. Stick to the car. :y
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Speed is the only reason for buying one. And accept the risks. Anything else is gay, and purely exposure to unnecessary risk, without the plus's. Best left. Stick to the car. :y
The car is probably only about 10mph behind the old bike flat out. Not that I've ever had the opportunity to max out the MV6 or the ZX10. As said, the acceleration was the exciting bit.
But as a commuting tool, the bike definitely had advantages over the car, even if you stuck to the speed targets limits.
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Walls are now at head height :)
I think a pic is on order Mr admin sir?
Sorry for delay...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/AED249C7-A9D7-4200-AACF-A99FF7F4348A_zpssavhc5bc.jpg)
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Coming along nicely, should be all moved in by August :y
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/91500127-76E0-4E99-950D-2A2EE8EDBCB6_zpskuxxnrug.jpg)
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Coming along nicely, should be all moved in by August :y
Done a little more today, now waiting mostly waiting for scaffolding, then the trusses. Doubt it will be done by the anniversary (11th July), but at least things are moving :)
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Another posh garage ;) Looks good, nearly as nice as the one in Norwich. :y
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Another posh garage ;) Looks good, nearly as nice as the one in Norwich. :y
Isn't that where the old one landed? ::)
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Another posh garage ;) Looks good, nearly as nice as the one in Norwich. :y
Isn't that where the old one landed? ::)
:y ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Is it me or do those front doors look a little narrow to get an Omega through? :-\ ::)
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Sounds like tb was getting bored in the early hours of this morning,so had another practice run at blowing a garage up in bletchley ;D ;D
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Is it me or do those front doors look a little narrow to get an Omega through? :-\ ::)
I thought that............... :-\ :-\
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/GarageRebuild/91500127-76E0-4E99-950D-2A2EE8EDBCB6_zpskuxxnrug.jpg)
going well :)
they have lots of them garages around west London, and charge £300pw rent, get plenty of illegals in there. ;D
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AAAAH that's better. You must be so relieved to see that growing outside the back door.
....couldn't grow me one could you. Might save a few pennies. ::) ;D
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He could sell garage seeds in the OOF shop! :D ;D
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Guffer already does a kit...
It's one of those weekly jobs, a brick at a time, £3.99 including postage and packaging ;D
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Excellent. Where do I subscribe? ;D ;D ;D
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Just set up a standing order to my PayPal account for £350 on every Monday...
That will get you 100 bricks delivered every Wednesday and includes our very special introductory discount of £49.00.
Within 20 weeks you should have enough to build a very fetching double garage/shed...
:y
Note to Guffer, we can discuss commission in due course ;D
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I think thats the shed :-\ Garage to be built yet ;D :D
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Another posh garage ;) Looks good, nearly as nice as the one in Norwich. :y
I wish I had the space for one like that.
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Is it me or do those front doors look a little narrow to get an Omega through? :-\ ::)
They are templates for doors (and ones for windows as well), just using them for the straight edge :)
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Guffer already does a kit...
It's one of those weekly jobs, a brick at a time, £3.99 including postage and packaging ;D
Is that the weekly blow up build your own garage magazine? ;D
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Indeed it is :y
I've scaled it up somewhat, otherwise to collect the 2000 or so bricks required, it would take 38 years to build, and woe betide anyone who misses an issue ;D
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Does he do a concrete block version? ::)
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Does he do a concrete block version? ::)
Don't see why not, same price, but 30 blocks instead of 100 bricks :y
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Does he do a concrete block version? ::)
Don't see why not, same price, but 30 blocks instead of 100 bricks :y
Does that includes render? ???
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Might pop a tin of weather shield on every other pallet :y
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Does it come with a how to guide,start to finish including how to blow the garage up ;D
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Does he do a concrete block version? ::)
Don't see why not, same price, but 30 blocks instead of 100 bricks :y
Does that includes render? ???
Or ? :D
(http://www.wallpaperandborders.co.uk/wallpaper-shop/images/brickkkkk.jpg)
http://www.wallpaperandborders.co.uk/wallpaper-shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_470&products_id=122 (http://www.wallpaperandborders.co.uk/wallpaper-shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_470&products_id=122)
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That brick effect wall paper would be great as a joke on someones garage door!! ;D
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Indeed it is :y
I've scaled it up somewhat, otherwise to collect the 2000 or so bricks required, it would take 38 years to build, and woe betide anyone who misses an issue ;D
Issue 4 looks good: "A complete illustrated guide to site clearance", especially the section: "10 proven short-cuts to clear the site in no time." ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D
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Roof trusses and tiles arrived yesterday. Reckon the roof will be on in a couple of days now...
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thought you raised the roof last year ;D
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In other news:
Jaime releases a new book - 101 crap jokes on how to blow up a garage ::)
;D
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In other news:
Jaime releases a new book - 101 crap jokes on how to blow up a garage ::)
;D
What's the postage bill so far? :P Must be mounting nicely. ::)
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In other news:
Jaime releases a new book - 101 crap jokes on how to blow up a garage ::)
;D
What's the postage bill so far? :P Must be mounting nicely. ::)
I dont know what you're talking about ::)
Besides, I was framed!!!! ;D
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In other news:
Jaime releases a new book - 101 crap jokes on how to blow up a garage ::)
;D
What's the postage bill so far? :P Must be mounting nicely. ::)
I dont know what you're talking about ::)
Besides, I was framed!!!! ;D
Send him a roof tile. Gowaaaaarn you know you want too. ;D
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What time does B+Q shut? I could grab ten and leave them on the step on my way home tonight :D
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What time does B+Q shut? I could grab ten and leave them on the step on my way home tonight :D
See I told you it wasn't me.
It's all a stitch-up >:( ;D
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What time does B+Q shut? I could grab ten and leave them on the step on my way home tonight :D
See I told you it wasn't me.
It's all a stitch-up >:( ;D
;D I told you not to use your postcode for the senders one ::)
Should have used Tunnies or better still, TBs...
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What time does B+Q shut? I could grab ten and leave them on the step on my way home tonight :D
See I told you it wasn't me.
It's all a stitch-up >:( ;D
;D I told you not to use your postcode for the senders one ::)
Should have used Tunnies or better still, TBs...
You mean when you dropped off Gixer's parcel at a postoffice near me? ::)
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Moi ???
I think you'll find that D'nile is a river in Africa ;D
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Must have the roof on by now :-\ Think of all that storage space waiting for you :o
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Must have the roof on by now :-\ Think of all that storage space waiting for you :o
The "felt" is in place, but only a few tiles so far.
As soon as the garage is finished, all the downstairs furniture needs to go in, so the carpet people can sort that out.
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Must have the roof on by now :-\ Think of all that storage space waiting for you :o
but no gaz cylinders this time. :D
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Must have the roof on by now :-\ Think of all that storage space waiting for you :o
but no gaz cylinders this time. :D
They are in my hallway :-X
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Seen progress myself, looking good :y
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Must be finished now :-\
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Doors in?
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'ere..... a group deal on a roller door might bring costs down?
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Doors in?
Side door , took them long enough to do that :-\
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'ere..... a group deal on a roller door might bring costs down?
Keep thinking about one of them myself. :y
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Will there be a little ceremony once complete?
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'ere..... a group deal on a roller door might bring costs down?
Keep thinking about one of them myself. :y
Aaronjb has a contact too btw. :)
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Will there be a little ceremony once complete?
A topping off one perhaps :D
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Doors in?
No idea
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Will there be a little ceremony once complete?
A topping off one perhaps :D
A wee party and BBQ for residents of the road who were all very helpful at the time, including looking after puddy cat, and get the first aid kit out on my leg.
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Will there be a little ceremony once complete?
A topping off one perhaps :D
A wee party and BBQ for residents of the road who were all very helpful at the time, including looking after puddy cat, and get the first aid kit out on my leg.
Where was he/she when the explosion went off :( Bet it took a while for the poor thing to come back :(
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Doors in?
On the subject of door's I've finally installed mine now :)
It was £435 delivered (8ft wide) - remote with two fobs - very happy with it
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Update please. With pics, per fa vor(;D ) ....? :)
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Will there be a little ceremony once complete?
A topping off one perhaps :D
A wee party and BBQ for residents of the road who were all very helpful at the time, including looking after puddy cat, and get the first aid kit out on my leg.
Where was he/she when the explosion went off :( Bet it took a while for the poor thing to come back :(
Right by the back door, staring out the catflap ;D.
Nope she came back as soon as we were allowed back in by the fire service :)
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Update please. With pics, per fa vor(;D ) ....? :)
Maybe when they fit the right garage door >:(
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... ??? You mean... It's not ??? Finished...? ??? :o
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Be in by Christmas with any luck ::)
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There should be a grand opening, with ribbon cutting and big scissors, when its ready.
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There should be a grand opening, with ribbon cutting and big scissors, when its ready.
And a barbie too :D
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There should be a grand opening, with ribbon cutting and big scissors, when its ready.
And a barbie too :D
Pervert.
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There should be a grand opening, with ribbon cutting and big scissors, when its ready.
And a barbie too :D
Pervert.
Words are superfluous for a response to that :-X
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... ??? You mean... It's not ??? Finished...? ??? :o
The garage will be when the right garage door goes on. Then over to a different builder to do the non garage repairs. *sigh*
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There should be a grand opening, with ribbon cutting and big scissors, when its ready.
There will be, as a thankyou to all the residents in the road, who have had to put up with inconvenience, not to mention garage doors landing on their cars ::)
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... ??? You mean... It's not ??? Finished...? ??? :o
The garage will be when the right garage door goes on. Then over to a different builder to do the non garage repairs. *sigh*
So can't have two builders on site once for some reas... Oh Jeez. Pffffff....
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... ??? You mean... It's not ??? Finished...? ??? :o
The garage will be when the right garage door goes on. Then over to a different builder to do the non garage repairs. *sigh*
So can't have two builders on site once for some reas... Oh Jeez. Pffffff....
Welcome to my world.
Although I can sort of understand it from when I used to do a real job - we were always tripping over alarm fitters, which usually ended up in sorting it out near the vans