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Title: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 18 August 2013, 17:44:23
Anyone have any experience of this brand? Specifically for rear disc and pad sets.

Not interested in Trade club rear pads.
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: Nick W on 18 August 2013, 18:21:19
I would avoid them. They are cheap and readily available. And that is the best I can say about them.

Buy something else.
Anything else.
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 August 2013, 19:26:32
So they're good then? :-X :-X :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D

Andy... Stick to a known brand at least ;)
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: serek on 18 August 2013, 19:37:49
have apec disc and pads on my mg zt and must say they are poor quality
but they not that cheap.

Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 August 2013, 20:13:44
Have previously fitted these without much issue :y expect the discs to barely last one pad change though :-\
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: Seth on 18 August 2013, 20:30:40
Anyone have any experience of this brand? Specifically for rear disc and pad sets.

Not interested in Trade club rear pads.

Thought about EBC 'Green Stuff'? :-\

Fitted 'em all-round on ours, with no issues and very little dust either. :y
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: jonathanh on 18 August 2013, 20:54:35
took a set of those off the front end of an audi A6.    let's say before I took them off trying to stop the thing was frightening.  replated with ATE and the difference showed how dangerous the APEC stuff was.   avoid APEC
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 18 August 2013, 21:15:45
Green stuff could be an option.  :y

What I really want is the OEM rear pads but just can't get them anywhere.

Been looking for Jurid pads (They manufacture the OEM ones) but can't find them either.
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: biggriffin on 20 August 2013, 17:23:36
Apec fine for dasiy driving ;), its the pad material thats cr••  not good. Shop around lokal factors and you might turn up brembo disc's  just as good as gm and a bit cheaper,
But for rears apec disc be fine,
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: tunnie on 20 August 2013, 17:31:04
What's wrong with trade club rear pads?  :-\
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2013, 18:11:36
What's wrong with trade club rear pads?  :-\
Dusty as hell if you try hard.
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 August 2013, 20:06:47
What's wrong with trade club rear pads?  :-\
Dusty as hell if you try hard.
Tunnie will never experience that though :-X :-X ::) ::)
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: tunnie on 20 August 2013, 20:09:38
What's wrong with trade club rear pads?  :-\
Dusty as hell if you try hard.

Wash it more?  ;D
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 20 August 2013, 20:44:39
What's wrong with trade club rear pads?  :-\
Dusty as hell if you try hard.

Wash it more?  ;D

Dusty without trying... but as the vast majority of my driving is motorway these days I suppose that's all you can expect.

Got OEM fronts and rears on the 3.2 and much prefer the pedal feel, but while I have plenty of sets of OEM fronts (both the early and late styles) I cannot get the rears for vented discs anywhere....
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 August 2013, 11:24:20
Pads are the same across the range :y last set of rear discs and pads that I bought came from a Vauxhall dealer in Reading, and were on the shelf :-\
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 13:00:17
Pads are the same across the range :y last set of rear discs and pads that I bought came from a Vauxhall dealer in Reading, and were on the shelf :-\

No they aren't i'm afraid. Depends if your rear discs are vented or not.

You can get OEM pads (As per fitted at the factory) or Trade club pads. Which when I am back home I could locate and quote you the GM part numbers for.

Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 August 2013, 13:27:02
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 15:00:54
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is different between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: dbug on 21 August 2013, 16:05:37
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is differe ;)t between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y

Pad thickness same for vented/non vented discs - difference is calliper width and pin length ;)
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 17:10:54
Caliper and pad fittings are definitely different,  pad dimensions date back to the Carlton...

I shall rephrase that slightly... Carlton pads fit perfectly imhe :y

Pad thickness is differe ;)t between vented and non vented disc setups, therefore if you put non-vented model pads in a vented setup the caliper pistons will be at full travel  :y

Pad thickness same for vented/non vented discs - difference is calliper width and pin length ;)

Sorry, yes your right - I'm obviously getting confused.com! It's when the dealer wrongly sells non vented discs and someone fits them in place of vented that the caliper pistons have an issue.

There are different pads listed for vented and non vented though... not sure why:-


Aftermarket (TC) Solid Pads - 93169001
OEM Solid Pads - 9193476
OEM vented Pads - 9195058
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 August 2013, 17:12:54
Different compound perhaps :-\

OE vented pads might be slotted...
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 17:18:12
Different compound perhaps :-\

OE vented pads might be slotted...

Was thinking that - maybe they expected the non vented discs to run hotter than vented under hard braking so used a different compound.

No slots that I can recall on the set I fitted to the 3.2 a while back.  :-\
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 August 2013, 17:19:27
I can't for the life of me remember either ::)
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 17:20:34
Ah! I know!

It's because the OEM ones come with the shims and pins.... and of course the pins are longer / shorter depending which ones you buy!!!!

So logically I could by OEM ones for non-vented (there's some on Egay) and replace the pins...  :y
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 August 2013, 17:29:19
That'll do it :y
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 August 2013, 17:35:08
Ordered  :)

Only took two pages to sort that out!  ::)
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: tunnie on 21 August 2013, 17:38:31
Ordered  :)

Only took two pages to sort that out!  ::)

Short that is, have you seen some of the tyre threads  :o
Title: Re: Apec pads and discs?
Post by: TheBoy on 21 August 2013, 18:10:12
As said, the pads are identical, its the fitting kit that varies. Obviously, only OE come with fitting kit, TC ones don't.