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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Webby the Bear on 25 August 2013, 09:48:17
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Hi guys,
I like to be proactive and due to my radiator drain plug (ford) leaking yesterday I fixed it but want to be prepared if it happens again. I was searching for a new radiator drain plug and came across this stuff...
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_743657_langId_-1_categoryId_255217#tab3
I personally would never use this. I don't like the idea of putting some sort of sealant in the system and gumming up the works.
BUT I did notice that everyone who's used it has given it 5 stars EVEN for people with combustion leaks in to the coolant.
As said I still personally wouldn't use it but has anyone had any experience of it themselves? out of interest :)
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No no no no no no no no no....errr no! ;D
Terrible stuff, I've seen what this does to a radiator, it can seriously affect cooling long term gets stuck in the heater matrix too.
Removed an Omega rad with this stuff in it, filled it with boiling water. Hot at the edges, stone cold in the centre ::)
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No no no no no no no no no....errr no! ;D
Terrible stuff, I've seen what this does to a radiator, it can seriously affect cooling long term gets stuck in the heater matrix too.
Removed an Omega rad with this stuff in it, filled it with boiling water. Hot at the edges, stone cold in the centre ::)
Exactly what I thought mate :y
I assume this is the equivalent of that stop leak shite
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No no no no no no no no no....errr no! ;D
Terrible stuff, I've seen what this does to a radiator, it can seriously affect cooling long term gets stuck in the heater matrix too.
Removed an Omega rad with this stuff in it, filled it with boiling water. Hot at the edges, stone cold in the centre ::)
+1
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I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole Webby. As said it gums up the Rad. and anywhere else with small/restricted waterways. So unless you dislike the car/person, steer clear! ;D
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You're better off cracking an egg into the rad Webby! ;) At least that's environmentally friendly!! :y
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You're better off cracking an egg into the rad Webby! ;) At least that's environmentally friendly!! :y
Yep.....done that.
It works .....sort of. :y
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Some people swear at it and others swear by it.
I would add that some manufacturers actually add it on the production line even now.
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Some people swear at it and others swear by it.
I would add that some manufacturers actually add it on the production line even now.
Name and shame please. Be useful to know for avoidance purposes as the cars must be truly shocking to require it from new :o
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Yes it works BUT sell the car afterwoods ;)
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My mate put 2 lots of that in his Omega 2.5 and it killed it ;)
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We use to put dog turds in all the saloons,rally, etc as when stone or owt went thro the rad didnt dump all the coolent and knacker the engine and overheat, never had problems with them,can now buy it pre-mixed, (barrs) not as intrusive as radweld.
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Interesting, IIRC when I was running an XJ6 about 30 years ago, a service requirement was to add Barr's Leaks at certain intervals, or have I made that up? :-\ :-\ :-\
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As others have said NOIt will block everything else too, get it sorted properly. :y
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Yes. Works very well actually.
Old 2.5 in my pre forum days, couldn't find the leak which later turned out to be oil cooler cover plate, going by the guides on here. One bottle stopped the leak and got me and the car through winter. It was loosing about a litre a week.
Where I think people go wrong is expecting it to plug huge holes and keep chucking bottle after bottle in, then bung up the whole system.
One bottle per system, if that doesn't fix it, nothing will. I heard a rumour Jaguar used it in all their new cars at one time. But that's quite possibly bollards, I wouldn't know.
But my first hand experience? It works well. Sold the car about two years later, no related issues.
Squabble all you like, btw, that's what happened. :)
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I would ask those that don't like it, what would you do with a failed core plug on a3.0 litre head?
I know what I'd do. Bottle of bars.
Only one mind. ;)
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I've always found K-Seal better. The radweld will work on small holes but does have the potential of causing issues.
K-Seak only sets where it meets air. That doesn't mean it's problem free but I find it more effective and less likely to cause a blockage :y
However, first advice would be to get the leak sorted ;)
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webby use an O ring mate-that should do it-fixed mine
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I recently watched a Polish chap come into a local shop in London Nw2 where I use to live,buy a bottle of Hob Brite walk over to the Golf Tdi he was driving,selling open expansion tank and poured the whole lot in. WHAT ON EARTH :o
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I'd only use these bodge tools as an utterly last resort.
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I'd only use these bodge tools as an utterly last resort.
Will it work with oil ::)
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I'd only use these bodge tools as an utterly last resort.
Will it work with oil ::)
Not without blocking all the other small oilways.
Hmmm, TB contemplates sawdust ;D
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They do Flog alot of motors in this neck of the woods,heck I would never buy a motor at dodgy address,off the street and from a Pol, would I ;D ;D
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I'd only use these bodge tools as an utterly last resort.
Indeed. Initially on the 2.5, I thought it was the last resort at the time. But never say never. ;)
I really don't see a problem with the correct dose. (Moment of doubt, as memory fails, is 1 bottle the correct dose? How bigs the bottle, to how much coolant? Oh never mind ;D )
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never say never
I never did say never.
Is that enough nevers?
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In all honesty I was so shocked :o Im not sure did he pour it in the water or Bloody engine :-X
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never say never
I never did say never.
Is that enough nevers?
Good, and no, never. ;D
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Must be a cheap Polish Slick 50 :y
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In the coolant surely?
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not 100% sure,but either way he looked like he new what he was doing,shame about the poor barstewards that would be buying as they only deal with there own,such lovely people >:(
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not 100% sure,but either way he looked like he new what he was doing,shame about the poor barstewards that would be buying as they only deal with there own,such lovely people >:(
He might be flushing it. ...might. :-\
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I've always found K-Seal better. The radweld will work on small holes but does have the potential of causing issues.
K-Seak only sets where it meets air. That doesn't mean it's problem free but I find it more effective and less likely to cause a blockage :y
However, first advice would be to get the leak sorted ;)
+1,never had an issue with K seal,about the only one I would use though :y
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If Radweld was such a problem, they'd have gone bust ................... I do get the suggested reasons as to why not ;)
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I had a weeping core plug....And radweld sorted it until the heads were done.
That said my heater matrix needed flushing every month or 2 to provide heat afterwards!
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Sorry . to early in the morning.
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Thanks for the input guys. As I stated initially i'm not in to bodge jobs. Would like to get it sorted properly.
i'm going to follow Symes's advice and get a new drain plug... if that doesn't work i'll pop an extra 'o' ring on and see if that does the trick.
IF it doesn't I presume it's new rad then... just to cure a dodgy drain plug? :(
is the consensus that this stuff is useable.....to save me buying a new expensive rad.....
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-accessories/engine-oils-and-car-fluids/car-additives/cooling-system-treatment/?542770100&0&cc5_171&gclid=CPzc5MConbkCFbQetAodnVMACQ
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well mums been driving it around and had a look today and theres definitely no leaks. i wonder if it was simply dripping from where i accidentally dumped a loada coolant out when bleeding as it went all over the engine bay ::)
I got a spare drain plug just in case. :y
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Glad all good matey :y :y :y
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I heard a rumour Jaguar used it in all their new cars at one time. But that's quite possibly bollards, I wouldn't know.
Wasn't that meant to have been Bar's? Actually, yes .. a quick google shows that the handbook even told you to add a bottle if you changed the radiator!
Proper British engineering.. if the fluid isn't leaking, it's probably empty ;D
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I heard a rumour Jaguar used it in all their new cars at one time. But that's quite possibly bollards, I wouldn't know.
Wasn't that meant to have been Bar's? Actually, yes .. a quick google shows that the handbook even told you to add a bottle if you changed the radiator!
Proper British engineering.. if the fluid isn't leaking, it's probably empty ;D
I thought it was recommended to add it to my Jag XK6 coolant system at some service intervals, but I may be dreaming, it was about 30 years ago. :-\ :-\ :-\
PS Still got a bottle on the shelf from that period, so I bought it for something.!
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Is the consensus that barrs....
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_208015_langId_-1_categoryId_255217
...is ok to use? just out of future reference :)
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I heard a rumour Jaguar used it in all their new cars at one time. But that's quite possibly bollards, I wouldn't know.
Wasn't that meant to have been Bar's? Actually, yes .. a quick google shows that the handbook even told you to add a bottle if you changed the radiator!
Proper British engineering.. if the fluid isn't leaking, it's probably empty ;D
I thought it was recommended to add it to my Jag XK6 coolant system at some service intervals, but I may be dreaming, it was about 30 years ago. :-\ :-\ :-\
PS Still got a bottle on the shelf from that period, so I bought it for something.!
The bit I read was in an XJS manual, but similar vintage :y Knowing Jaguar I wouldn't mind betting my XJ12 (XJ40) manual says the same thing.. ;D
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I can't find it in the Jag XJ6 Haynes book, but I seem to recall it was in the genuine Jaguar Service Manual which I let go with the car. :-\ :-\ :-\