Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2008, 19:00:41
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Hello
Thinking about buying the wife a 2.6 V6 Omega Registered November 2001 on a 51 plate.
Anyone know what the CO2 emmissions are and therefore how much roadtax I will pay, when the new stealth road tax comes in 2008?
The owner says its exempt, but I know my own 3.2 estate registered July 2001 (Y) with according to the Log Book CO2 286g/km is in the highest band, so I'll pay over £400 next year (theft)
Any help much appreciated
Thanks
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It's going to be up there around the £400 mark, as I understand it, being a few months too young!
Can't think why it would be exempt !!!!
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November 2001 is the same month/year as mine ...
Tax this year (2008) - £205
2009 - £440
2010 - £455
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November 2001 is the same month/year as mine ...
Tax this year (2008) - £205
2009 - £440
2010 - £455
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Isnt everyone getting a little pi***d off getting ripped off left right and centre . With fuel prices only ever going to go higher and the government screwing us all over with ever higher road tax ! .. I cant wait for the day when the normal poeple of this country say enough is enough ...roll on the revolution ;D
Ok , rant over :y
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Thanks for that
When does the new tax come into play. Which month in 2009?
My road tax runs out in end January 2009. Do you know if I have to pay the £440 or will it still be £205. What month does the Grand Theft Auto begin? :-/
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Depends if they U turn or not
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you sure its 286 and not 268 g/km?
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This page lays it all out for you :'(
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
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you sure its 286 and not 268 g/km?
Just had a 2nd look at the V5 doc. Its definately 286
Still don't know currently what month in 2009 new road tax laws take effect from.
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This page lays it all out for you :'(
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
Thanks for that
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Or you can do a specific car in this search
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/
What P's me off is the fact that an auto is often in a higher group than its manual version (wife's Astra is auto & will be paying £270 >:(). Surely if it's based on CO2 emmisions then it's the engine that's producing the CO2, not the transmission! >:(
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Try here aswell
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20767
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This page lays it all out for you :'(
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
Yes this info has been superseded there will now be 13 bands affecting all cars back to 2001
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/41183.html
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Try here aswell
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20767
Or he could use my link! :-? ;D :y
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Its absolute robbery when you look at some of these bands and prices ... >:(
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Try here aswell
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20767
Or he could use my link! :-? ;D :y
Sorry ... you beat me too it :y
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Its absolute robbery when you look at some of these bands and prices ... >:(
Agreed! >:(
Especially as cars like my wife's, an ordinary average 1600 medium size car is at the higher end of the groups ie J >:( >:(
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Thanks everybody
Looks like the new tax rate starts March 2009. So if your tax runs out in February presumably you'll pay £205, if it runs out in April its £440.
Mine runs out in January.......So I'm alright Jack..........For 1 year anyway!!!!
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We should all sign this .... http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/
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We should all sign this .... http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/
Just been and signed it
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YIPPEE!!!
I'm, exempt - YES! :y
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bet all all the selfserving pigs dont pay roadtax on their nice shiney jags when they swan about in them on officail business ,God they make me scream! >:(
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It amazes me the short sightedness of the government, I use my car daily and travel approx 2 miles to work and 2 miles back, i have a friend that travels 30 miles each way to and from work and he is in the £35 a year tax bracket, yet he produces more Co2 emmisions than I do on a weekly basis, but i pay £££££££££££££ more in tax !!!!!
Its daylight robbery !!
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I cant see where it says your exempt if your car is pre 2001 :'(
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Pre March 2001 and it's ok, at present !!!!!.
In the pipeline - all petrol or diesel useing equipment made since 1944 will have to be registered, lawn mowers, motor bikes, central heating boilers, cars etc, they will all pay Mr Brown fuel tax based on "each time they start". Well ok but what is next ???? The man is an idiot, he has taxed England its industry and people to death.
Sorry for the soap box !!
regards
richard a
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YIPPEE!!!
I'm, exempt - YES! :y
I am seriously missing something here -- exempt from what ???? And on what grounds ?? :-?
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Ok people come on its not rocket science.
Cars registered BEFORE 1st March 2001 are taxed in 2 catagorys!
Below 1.6 and above 1.6
So 3.0 meggas pay same tax as a 2.0 mondeo.
Cars registered AFTER March 1st 2001 are taxed based on CO2 emmisions.
V6 Omegas are dirty engines so hit the higher brackets.
2.6/3.2 and 2.5's/3.0;s if registered after 1st March 2001, pay £445 tax in 2009 and £455 in 2010.
2.5/3.0 Omegas registered before 1st March 2001, will never pay more than £200 until 2010.
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I cant see where it says your exempt if your car is pre 2001 :'(
As i we have said time and again, yours is not affect by the new rates!!!
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Thanks everybody
Looks like the new tax rate starts March 2009. So if your tax runs out in February presumably you'll pay £205, if it runs out in April its £440.
Mine runs out in January.......So I'm alright Jack..........For 1 year anyway!!!!
i'm the same, January
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V6 Omegas are dirty engines so hit the higher brackets.
WRONG
They are a very clean engine, the thing is they are designed for good emmisions not to pass a CO2 (which is NOT a pollutant) test.
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V6 Omegas are dirty engines so hit the higher brackets.
WRONG
They are a very clean engine, the thing is they are designed for good emmisions not to pass a CO2 (which is NOT a pollutant) test.
Don't think there is a need to shout here Martin.
Where do you base your facts on that i am wrong, and need to shout the fact?
Some facts and figures, here, using the BMW 5 series as an example.
I am using data from the old shape here, not the new! so the same age design as the Omega:
Vauxhall Engine 2.5 V6:
2.5i V6 GLS 4d Auto (AC) 24 mpg 276 g/km
2.5i V6 24V GLS 4d 27 mpg 251 g/km
BMW 2.5 S6:
525i 4d 30 mpg 225 g/km
525i 4d Auto 27 mpg 247 g/km
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The 3.5 V8 BMW engine, is a fraction more on CO2 than the 2.5 V6!
535i 4d (00) 23 mpg 283 g/km
The 3.2 Omega is:
3.2 V6 24V MV6 4d Auto 23 mpg 284 g/km
So overall, the 3.5 V8 BMW, with 2 more cylinders, a lot more BHP, is less dirty than a 3.2 Omega.
Omega's have dirty engines ;)
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Sorry CO2 is NOT a pollutant - what about CO HC ect?
Also the figures are skewed by the cold start gearbox system
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Sorry CO2 is NOT a pollutant - what about CO HC ect?
Also the figures are skewed by the cold start gearbox system
The reason given for not classifying CO2 as a pollutant is based upon the fact that it is a natural component of the atmosphere and needed by plants in order to carry out photosynthesis.
No one would argue the fact that carbon dioxide is a necessary component of the atmosphere any more than one would argue the fact that Vitamin D is necessary in the human diet.
However, excess Vitamin D in the diet can be extremely toxic . Living systems, be they an ecosystem or an organism, require that a delicate balance be maintained between certain elements and/or compounds in order for the system to function normally.
When one substance is present in excess and as a result threatens the wellbeing of an ecosystem, it becomes toxic, and could be considered to be a pollutant, despite the fact that it is required in small quantities.
Not as if i copied and pasted that ::)
But think of it as beer, the human body likes some of it.
But too much, and it can kill you.
Same for CO2 ;)
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Same for CO2
You a warmenist then, tunnie?
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Depends if they U turn or not
They wont be here in 2010 so i wonder what David Camerons thoughts are on it :-/
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Same for CO2
You a warmenist then, tunnie?
tbh i don't give a monkeys what comes out of the tail pipe of my Omega, this started because i mentioned Omega engines are dirty (based on co2 which is what car tax will be based on) compared to other big engined cars out there.
When places like China pump out 10 times more than what we do, little things we do here make no difference.
Ever see a long distace drive on the Toyota Prius?
They drove it from London to Paris, behind it, drove a BMW 520 derv.
Prius average mpg - 53.
BMW average mpg - 48.
Not a lot in it, i suspect a 320d would have done 53+!
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Depends if they U turn or not
They wont be here in 2010 so i wonder what David Camerons thoughts are on it :-/
If he takes 30p a litre off fuel, banishes student debt, he gets my vote! ;D
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Doubt that the next lot will be able to do much, this lot have put this country so deep in the S H one T that it'll take ten years to sort it all out again....
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Yes, very sorry but Gordan Brown screwed it all when HE was Chancellor, but he thinks it was someone else or we have forgotten !
regards
richard a