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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Mr.OmegaMan on 14 September 2013, 22:27:52
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Been out this evening first time in the dark for a long time driving since i got the car (2002 3.2 Elite Saloon), Between 20:30 - 22:00 roughly visiting someone, I noticed the main beam is in the trees very high, Dip seems a little high also, Well they must be by the amount of times i got flashed must have got flashed 10 times... Took a few pictures of the main/dip head-on some trees in front, I'll upload later.
Question: I'm fairly new to HIDs, So i presume there is (1) levelling sensor on the front and (1) on the rear somewhere, I've seen the front one, Can't remember if i saw one each side or not :-\ (will check).. No idea where the rear sensor is, Near the wishbone maybe ?, Is there a way to tell they are working the sensors ?
I have read, Well skimmed through a few threads over the years now and again that the problem normally is the adjusters, Are they inside the headlight unit itself ?, Is it a doable job ?, what parts are recommended ?, Price ?...
Anything else it could be ?
Thanks
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Unless that's how they are and being that the lenses are so clear the lights are very bright causing other's to flash maybe. :-\
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p620/Agemo_Legend/D3261E6D-4604-4E6E-92E6-482C4E708DBB-2142-00000138C3C9E19C_zps9806b443.jpg)
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p620/Agemo_Legend/F31D3F3A-1ED1-4852-8FC8-205B64FDFAD4-2142-00000138C953FB5C_zps8fc2b30d.jpg)
Also it did pass the MOT like this with no advisories few moths ago :-\
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Anything else it could be ?
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If the adjusters were goosed, the whole reflector inside the headlamp will be free to move, can be checked if you remove the large black rubber cover.
There are manual adjusters on these lamps too
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/Omega/S73F1210-1.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Tiff4327/media/Omega/S73F1210-1.jpg.html)
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Anything else it could be ?
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If the adjusters were goosed, the whole reflector inside the headlamp will be free to move, can be checked if you remove the large black rubber cover.
There are manual adjusters on these lamps too
The internals don't move around and the light on the road at any speed/surface doesn't wobble or shake just a little high, Main beam especially. Might not be adjusters then :)
Will have a look under the rubber, Probably wont be tomorrow or Monday weather looks bad. If anything drivers side looks fine, Passenger side seems to be worst, Maybe a bulb not put in correctly or something.
Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ? :-\
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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ? :-\
Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason :-\ :-\
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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ? :-\
Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason :-\ :-\
Any special tool needed to adjust manually ?
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Any chance it could be the front/rear sensors ? :-\
Could be, but they might just be manually set too high for some reason :-\ :-\
Any special tool needed to adjust manually ?
Allen key ;) Bear in mind it takes a good few turns to make an appreciable difference in the level of the beam
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Thanks Andy, Much appreciated :)
...Everyone else :P ;D :-X
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I bet your plastic adjusters have broken, :-\ they get brittle and your lights move around inside there are aluminium upgrades available from a guy on here somewhere.
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If there was a sensor fault the car would show "headlight field of vision" fault on the display. In the absence of that, it would appear the lights simply need adjusting.
But be carefull, they are extremely fragile. The last time I adjusted mine the the Allen key turned but wouldn't engage the cog at the rear, so had use that to adjust. (I'm not familiar with the internals)
Courtesy of Mr Dtm, there is a procedure to set the lights height. Iirc, involves a level flat drive way, and a garage door, or wall in front.
Drive up to the door within a foot. Mark the level of the light on the door with a bit of tape or whatever. Then reverse away 6-8ft or so. Then set the lights an inch below the mark.
Might take a couple of reat attempts to get your bearings so your happy. But it does work, provided the adjusters work of course.... ;)
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There are two Allen key adjusters btw.
I'm not sure which is which..... or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
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There are two Allen key adjusters btw.
I'm not sure which is which..... or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
Put your glasses on Chris ;) ;) There are two circles on my picture :y :y :y
I can't remember which is which, but there are only 2 of them ::) :y :y
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Outer adjuster for vertical and the inner one horizontal
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Thanks Chris and Rob :y, I like the garage idea although my drive ain't level enough, But there is a spot that is, I could park another car sideways in front or something..
What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high.
Presuming the adjusters are fine with a 190k on the clock it's doubtful probably very worn at the very least, How do I know the self levelling is working, Should I hear a motor sound as soon as I switch the lights on ?
Also I'd like to ask, Being new to HIDs I'm not familiar with the reactions of other drives, Dont see many car with HIDs around here, Do you find personally when driving a Vehicle with HIDs that you get flashed now and again ?, Sometimes I find 4x4s with HIDs do tend to blind a little more than cars.
While driving last night I could see the oncoming drivers faces lighting up and their glasses shinning back mainly on hills up/down, corners, junctions etc... Cars in front dipping their interior mirrors :-X
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What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high. ....
Agreed. Driver's side looks to about right, but your passenger light looks to be searching out passing aircraft! ;) ;) ;)
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There are two Allen key adjusters btw.
I'm not sure which is which..... or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
Put your glasses on Chris ;) ;) There are two circles on my picture :y :y :y
I can't remember which is which, but there are only 2 of them ::) :y :y
So there is. I can see the other now that I've dragged the HUUUUGE pic across to show it on the screen. :P ;D ;)
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There are two Allen key adjusters btw.
I'm not sure which is which..... or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
Put your glasses on Chris ;) ;) There are two circles on my picture :y :y :y
I can't remember which is which, but there are only 2 of them ::) :y :y
So there is. I can see the other now that I've dragged the HUUUUGE pic across to show it on the screen. :P ;D ;)
Your screen must be small then ....... ::) the picture is slightly too large to fit, but that must be Photobucket's fault! ;) ;)
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Thanks Chris and Rob :y, I like the garage idea although my drive ain't level enough, But there is a spot that is, I could park another car sideways in front or something..
What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high.
Presuming the adjusters are fine with a 190k on the clock it's doubtful probably very worn at the very least, How do I know the self levelling is working, Should I hear a motor sound as soon as I switch the lights on ?
Also I'd like to ask, Being new to HIDs I'm not familiar with the reactions of other drives, Dont see many car with HIDs around here, Do you find personally when driving a Vehicle with HIDs that you get flashed now and again ?, Sometimes I find 4x4s with HIDs do tend to blind a little more than cars.
While driving last night I could see the oncoming drivers faces lighting up and their glasses shinning back mainly on hills up/down, corners, junctions etc... Cars in front dipping their interior mirrors :-X
Yes all those clues are telling you the lights are high. Or one is at least. You'll see if you do that test. As you back away the beam should drop lower than the mark. If it rises above the mark they are way high. (Provided the drive is flat, flat being more important than level)
Self levelling suspension is completely separate to the head light levelling system. But self levelling suspension pump is behind the front drivers fog light. Ignition on, engine off and you should hear it run, takes a couple of minutes some times. If you listen to the pedal trick video the pump can be heard in the back ground.
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There are two Allen key adjusters btw.
I'm not sure which is which..... or what the other one does actually. Anyone?
Put your glasses on Chris ;) ;) There are two circles on my picture :y :y :y
I can't remember which is which, but there are only 2 of them ::) :y :y
So there is. I can see the other now that I've dragged the HUUUUGE pic across to show it on the screen. :P ;D ;)
Your screen must be small then ....... ::) the picture is slightly too large to fit, but that must be Photobucket's fault! ;) ;)
Size... Its a bit subjective. If I hold "it" at the right distance its bigger than my 50" plasma 12feet away. ;) ;D
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Thanks Chris and Rob :y, I like the garage idea although my drive ain't level enough, But there is a spot that is, I could park another car sideways in front or something..
What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high.
Presuming the adjusters are fine with a 190k on the clock it's doubtful probably very worn at the very least, How do I know the self levelling is working, Should I hear a motor sound as soon as I switch the lights on ?
Also I'd like to ask, Being new to HIDs I'm not familiar with the reactions of other drives, Dont see many car with HIDs around here, Do you find personally when driving a Vehicle with HIDs that you get flashed now and again ?, Sometimes I find 4x4s with HIDs do tend to blind a little more than cars.
While driving last night I could see the oncoming drivers faces lighting up and their glasses shinning back mainly on hills up/down, corners, junctions etc... Cars in front dipping their interior mirrors :-X
Yes all those clues are telling you the lights are high. Or one is at least. You'll see if you do that test. As you back away the beam should drop lower than the mark. If it rises above the mark they are way high. (Provided the drive is flat, flat being more important than level)
Self levelling suspension is completely separate to the head light levelling system. But self levelling suspension pump is behind the front drivers fog light. Ignition on, engine off and you should hear it run, takes a couple of minutes some times. If you listen to the pedal trick video the pump can be heard in the back ground.
It's definitely not flat unfortunately, Can always go to a shop car park or something :y
By the way, Don't know if this makes any difference mind. It's running standard rear shocks/springs..
The pedal trick video in the guide maintenance section. I'll give it a go tomorrow on the iPhone. ;)
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Suspension only matters of something changes the ride height pitch front to rear.
But the head light levelling should adjust anyway. You need to set the lights to where the head light levelling motors settle, then its job done. :)
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Sounds simple enough :y
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Its the horizontal adjuster that seems fragile, so try to just adjust the vertical. Vertical is the outside adjusters.
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Guide here:-
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm (http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm)
Not trying to be negative, but it's highly likely that if the adjusters haven't been touched for a while they will snap when you try and adjust them so it's worth buying a couple of aluminium adjusters in preparation.
NB. You wind the adjuster clockwise to raise the level and anti-clockwise to lower the level (as you stand facing the headlights) and it's such a fine adjustment it takes a lot of winding!
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Guide here:-
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm (http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm)
Not trying to be negative, but it's highly likely that if the adjusters haven't been touched for a while they will snap when you try and adjust them so it's worth buying a couple of aluminium adjusters in preparation.
NB. You wind the adjuster clockwise to raise the level and anti-clockwise to lower the level (as you stand facing the headlights) and it's such a fine adjustment it takes a lot of winding!
Must of been having a senior moment when I typed that, it's actually the opposite. :-[
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Guide here:-
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm (http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm)
Not trying to be negative, but it's highly likely that if the adjusters haven't been touched for a while they will snap when you try and adjust them so it's worth buying a couple of aluminium adjusters in preparation.
NB. You wind the adjuster clockwise to raise the level and anti-clockwise to lower the level (as you stand facing the headlights) and it's such a fine adjustment it takes a lot of winding!
Must of been having a senior moment when I typed that, it's actually the opposite. :-[
So it's something like this, With the Allen key turn the left side manual adjuster (the outer left one in pic below) "Clockwise" ???
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/Omega/S73F1210-1.jpg)
Using Chris's (Mr Dtm) method mentioned.
How many times should i fully turn the allen key not to over do it ?
Thanks
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How many times should i fully turn the allen key not to over do it ?
Thanks
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To quote Kevin Bacon on his telly ad ..... shed loads! ;) ;) ;) It's very difficult to over do it :y :y
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How many times should i fully turn the allen key not to over do it ?
Thanks
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To quote Kevin Bacon on his telly ad ..... shed loads! ;) ;) ;) It's very difficult to over do it :y :y
Thanks, That's good to know :y
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The adjuster nearest the grill does the horizontal, that's the one you need to adjust for height.
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The adjuster nearest the grill does the horizontal, that's the one you need to adjust for height.
Thanks bud :y
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Just to make sure, Clockwise the direction i should turn ? :)
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Thanks Chris and Rob :y, I like the garage idea although my drive ain't level enough, But there is a spot that is, I could park another car sideways in front or something..
What does everyone else make of the pictures of dip/main lights ?, Passenger side looks the worst to me, Drivers side looks about correct maybe a little high.
Presuming the adjusters are fine with a 190k on the clock it's doubtful probably very worn at the very least, How do I know the self levelling is working, Should I hear a motor sound as soon as I switch the lights on ?
Also I'd like to ask, Being new to HIDs I'm not familiar with the reactions of other drives, Dont see many car with HIDs around here, Do you find personally when driving a Vehicle with HIDs that you get flashed now and again ?, Sometimes I find 4x4s with HIDs do tend to blind a little more than cars.
While driving last night I could see the oncoming drivers faces lighting up and their glasses shinning back mainly on hills up/down, corners, junctions etc... Cars in front dipping their interior mirrors :-X
shouldn't do mate if they are aligned properly :y ;D
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The adjuster nearest the grill does the horizontal, that's the one you need to adjust for height.
That doesnt make sense Mr VXL ;D
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If the worst comes to the worst, How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
These if i'm correct.. £32 for x2 inc p&p :-\
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261272933890?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
or would it be time to look into getting replacement units.
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Adjusted mine today. Bit low.
Worked perfectly. :)
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Adjusted mine today. Bit low.
Worked perfectly. :)
Original GM adjusters on your Chris ?
Weather has been to bad here rain and wind all day :-\
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Adjusted mine today. Bit low.
Worked perfectly. :)
Original GM adjusters on your Chris ?
Weather has been to bad here rain and wind all day :-\
Original gm. Never touched them myself. Other than today. No issues. 4mm Allen key in a multi story car park reversing back and forth :)
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Adjusted mine today. Bit low.
Worked perfectly. :)
Original GM adjusters on your Chris ?
Weather has been to bad here rain and wind all day :-\
Original gm. Never touched them myself. Other than today. No issues. 4mm Allen key in a multi story car park reversing back and forth :)
Anyone in the background watching, Who's that chap flashing at the wall ::) ;D
Thanks, Should have a 4mm somewhere :y, What's the mileage on your Omega maybe it hits higher mileage cars more :-\
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68k to 102k now
Get on wi' it lad. ;)
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Will do Tomorrow hopefully, Weather permitting :y
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How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
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Fairly easy, just patience required in removing the 'glass' to get to the adjuster.
Unless you buy new, you've no idea if the replacements are any better than what you've got
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How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
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Fairly easy, just patience required in removing the 'glass' to get to the adjuster.
Unless you buy new, you've no idea if the replacements are any better than what you've got
So If mine are broken i'd have to fix or buy new or keep adjusting manually now and then. I want HALOGEN headlights instead :'( ;D
Only kidding, Their great lights the HIDs and these are probably passed their best the bulbs, Will update on how things go hopefully tomorrow night... :y
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How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
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Fairly easy, just patience required in removing the 'glass' to get to the adjuster.
Unless you buy new, you've no idea if the replacements are any better than what you've got
So If mine are broken i'd have to fix or buy new or keep adjusting manually now and then. I want HALOGEN headlights instead :'( ;D
Only kidding, Their great lights the HIDs and these are probably passed their best the bulbs, Will update on how things go hopefully tomorrow night... :y
No the lense will flap about because the adjuster has snapped. Standard projector headlights have the same adjuster....
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How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
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Fairly easy, just patience required in removing the 'glass' to get to the adjuster.
Unless you buy new, you've no idea if the replacements are any better than what you've got
So If mine are broken i'd have to fix or buy new or keep adjusting manually now and then. I want HALOGEN headlights instead :'( ;D
Only kidding, Their great lights the HIDs and these are probably passed their best the bulbs, Will update on how things go hopefully tomorrow night... :y
No the lense will flap about because the adjuster has snapped.
They must be okay then if they are not moving about ???
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If the worst comes to the worst, How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
These if i'm correct.. £32 for x2 inc p&p :-\
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261272933890?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
or would it be time to look into getting replacement units.
Send a PM to spakesandnoise on here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7607 :y :y
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If the worst comes to the worst, How hard is it to replace the adjusters with the aluminium ones..
These if i'm correct.. £32 for x2 inc p&p :-\
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261272933890?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
or would it be time to look into getting replacement units.
Send a PM to spakesandnoise on here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7607 :y :y
Message sent, Thanks Kev :y
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The adjusters are either broken or they're not. It matters not if HID or Halogen - in fact Halogen may be more prone, due to extra heat put through them.
Once they are broken, manually adjusting won't really help (in fact you can't really).
Fitting the ali adjusters is dead easy, if a tad fiddly. You just need to be prepared to catch the hot sealant, to stop it going onto the chromed reflectors, as you'll never remove it without damaging the delicate chrome (note - Boots nail varnish remover seems best if you do, but does cause minor discolouration). Additionally, grease the thread, as we all know that mild steel into ali corrodes bad ;)
Its only the horizontal adjusters that fail normally, and these are the ones that you can get ali replacements for. When they fail, it affects the height, and the whole moving part of the headlight assembly becomes loose at the bottom.
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I'd see if they adjust first, before looking at replacement parts. You never know, they might be fine and work as designed. :o
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I'd see if they adjust first, before looking at replacement parts. You never know, they might be fine and work as designed. :o
Another hour or so we'll soon find out, I have a funny feeling the passenger side is broken :'(
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I'd see if they adjust first, before looking at replacement parts. You never know, they might be fine and work as designed. :o
Its always a wing and a prayer now, given their age.
Mrs TB and I have become quite adept at doing them, we've had plenty of practice over the Omegas we've owned ;D
The bullet has 2 ali adjusters, TBE currently has 1.
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I'd see if they adjust first, before looking at replacement parts. You never know, they might be fine and work as designed. :o
Its always a wing and a prayer now, given their age.
Mrs TB and I have become quite adept at doing them, we've had plenty of practice over the Omegas we've owned ;D
The bullet has 2 ali adjusters, TBE currently has 1.
My I refer the Honourable member to post 34 :)
Of all the omegas I've had, I've never encountered a failed adjuster, other than the cog not engaging on the rear of a depo pattern jobby.
Clearly your all ham fisted Luddites ;D :P
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My MOT tester normally manages to break mine ;D
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The adjusters are either broken or they're not. It matters not if HID or Halogen - in fact Halogen may be more prone, due to extra heat put through them.
Once they are broken, manually adjusting won't really help (in fact you can't really).
Fitting the ali adjusters is dead easy, if a tad fiddly. You just need to be prepared to catch the hot sealant, to stop it going onto the chromed reflectors, as you'll never remove it without damaging the delicate chrome (note - Boots nail varnish remover seems best if you do, but does cause minor discolouration). Additionally, grease the thread, as we all know that mild steel into ali corrodes bad ;)
Its only the horizontal adjusters that fail normally, and these are the ones that you can get ali replacements for. When they fail, it affects the height, and the whole moving part of the headlight assembly becomes loose at the bottom.
Is there something you need to tell us TB. :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well i've managed to adjust passenger side to match drivers and it did go down :y, Will take her for a spin around see how many flashes i get ;D
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....... see how many flashes i get ;D
Ooooer! ;D ;D ;D
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The adjusters are either broken or they're not. It matters not if HID or Halogen - in fact Halogen may be more prone, due to extra heat put through them.
Once they are broken, manually adjusting won't really help (in fact you can't really).
Fitting the ali adjusters is dead easy, if a tad fiddly. You just need to be prepared to catch the hot sealant, to stop it going onto the chromed reflectors, as you'll never remove it without damaging the delicate chrome (note - Boots nail varnish remover seems best if you do, but does cause minor discolouration). Additionally, grease the thread, as we all know that mild steel into ali corrodes bad ;)
Its only the horizontal adjusters that fail normally, and these are the ones that you can get ali replacements for. When they fail, it affects the height, and the whole moving part of the headlight assembly becomes loose at the bottom.
Is there something you need to tell us TB. :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Because I'm the modern man, Mrs TB and I do the headlight repairs together. How sweat.
I'd like to claim credit for the nail varnish thing, but it was a Mrs TB discovery.
Crossdressing, and using make-up, well, it was the weekend ;D
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Because I'm the modern man, Mrs TB and I do the headlight repairs together. How sweat.
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Have you tried ::) ::)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/20/article-1087772-0289D808000005DC-327_233x423.jpg)
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Just got back and It's definitely improved they are level with each other now and I didn't get flashed once.
Just need to lower both by around 10-15 turns for good measure as they seem only a little too high :y
I presume the self levelling works even thogh i have no idea how it works ;D
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Self levelling hids?
Leave the lights on. Turn the ignition off. Then on again within a second or two. Sometimes you see the headlights dip and reset, and the motors can be heard.
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I presume the self levelling works
It must be if there are no warnings of field vision on the display :y
even though I have no idea how it works ;D
Magic ..... ;)
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Self levelling hids?
Leave the lights on. Turn the ignition off. Then on again within a second or two. Sometimes you see the headlights dip and reset, and the motors can be heard.
It's too bloody windy here to hear anything at the moment. But i did hear something when i turned the ignition on after turning on the lights :-\
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I presume the self levelling works
It must be if there are no warnings of field vision on the display :y
Good point :y , It's witchcraft i tell you ;D
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Its quite a deep zip(down) zip(up) noise. As the lights move.
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Its quite a deep zip(down) zip(up) noise. As the lights move.
Would the iPhone pick up the sound on a quiet day you think ?
I'm sure my ears need blasting out again full of wax. Not car wax either :( ;D
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Its a little test for you to check the light levelling system.
Why the iPhone involvement? I can see we're having trouble separating you from a gay device anytime soon. ;)
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Its a little test for you to check the light levelling system.
Why the iPhone involvement? I can see we're having trouble separating you from a gay device anytime soon. ;)
To upload the video on here so people who know what it sounds like can check :-\ , Don't have a camcorder ::)
Never the less i will of course check to see if i can hear it myself first, If not might upload a video.
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Ok, forget the noise.
Its the movement that's relevant. See if they go up and down, you may need to try a few times its a bit hit and miss. You'll see the beam on the road move. :)
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Ok, forget the noise.
Its the movement that's relevant. See if they go up and down, you may need to try a few times its a bit hit and miss. You'll see the beam on the road move. :)
I'm sure i have come to think about it, But i thought i was seeing things like the trick of the light or something :-[
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Bah. They're fine mate. Don't worry. :y
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Most likely are :y or there'd be a error message as Andy say's most likely :y
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Yeah but I said it first :P ;D
Post 9. ;)
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Yeah but I said it first :P ;D
Post 9. ;)
:P :P :P :P
but I posted a picture first ;)
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Boys Boys don't get your panties in a twist ;D ;D
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Yeah but I said it first :P ;D
Post 9. ;)
:P :P :P :P
but I posted a picture first ;)
OI! HALF a picture. :D
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Yeah but I said it first :P ;D
Post 9. ;)
:P :P :P :P
but I posted a picture first ;)
ner ner ner ner ner ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah but I said it first :P ;D
Post 9. ;)
:P :P :P :P
but I posted a picture first ;)
OI! HALF a picture. :D
not on everyone else's screen ....... :P
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Where exactly is the rear HIDs headlight sensor, Just want to give it the once over make sure it's all there, If all's good with it i'll be done, I've got the lights at a good level now, Can't see anyone's faces or glasses shining now :y
Thanks for everyone's help and time, Appreciated :y
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Nearside trailing arm just inboard from the anti roll bar link :y
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I suppose i really should have a spare set of bulbs, Where is considered the best place to get the HID bulbs VX dealer ?, I've got plenty of Main Beam bulbs.
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I suppose i really should have a spare set of bulbs, Where is considered the best place to get the HID bulbs VX dealer ?, I've got plenty of Main Beam bulbs.
HID bulbs probably expensive from VX dealer
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I suppose i really should have a spare set of bulbs, Where is considered the best place to get the HID bulbs VX dealer ?, I've got plenty of Main Beam bulbs.
<touches wood> ::)
In 10 years I've never had the need to change a HID 'bulb' ...... I wouldn't worry about a spare ;)
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Hids aren't like conventional headlight bulbs. They last considerably longer, but are very expensive to replace by comparison.
They could also considered dealer fit only due to the warning signs of high voltage all over them. Do tell the Gendarme to bog off with his extortion fine if your going abroad.
I wouldn't worry.
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Sure I read somewhere even though they last they do degrade somewhat over time Andy :-\. Probably leave it till next year then when the funds have replenished ;D
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Jimbob might advise on a supplier
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As HID bulbs are (officially) only to be changed by trained personnel, you can tell the French to bugger off. Same as if you drive an Audi, as all bulbs are dealer change only.
They tend not to just fail, you get plenty of warning.
They do degrade over time, but the 15yr old ones on the Bullet, having done 210k, are still OK.
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Have only needed to change one through failure, until recently, 95% of my driving was done at night :y
As TB says, you get plenty of notice, they gradually develop a pink tinge, eventually they don't fire, mine actually went bang, shattering the bulb, but it had been pink for about three months ::)
Halfords stock some, but they're more expensive than Vauxhall iirc.
The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, (for ease of access) and if you treat as you would an airbag, then you shouldn't fry yourself :y
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The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, .....
which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper ;) ;)
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The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, .....
which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper ;) ;)
Er... I don't think it does mr P.
Some fiddling around with the the under head light trim, some 1/4" drive extensions and a bit of tape to hold the bolt on for refitting, but I've never removed a bumper, on the superior face lift or the Bart Simpson lookalike pre face lift, for head light reasons.
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The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, .....
which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper ;) ;)
Er... I don't think it does mr P.
Some fiddling around with the the under head light trim, some 1/4" drive extensions and a bit of tape to hold the bolt on for refitting, but I've never removed a bumper, on the superior face lift or the Bart Simpson lookalike pre face lift, for head light reasons.
IIRC the headlight won't come out with the bumper on because the headlight washer fouls it. ;)
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The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, .....
which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper ;) ;)
Er... I don't think it does mr P.
Some fiddling around with the the under head light trim, some 1/4" drive extensions and a bit of tape to hold the bolt on for refitting, but I've never removed a bumper, on the superior face lift or the Bart Simpson lookalike pre face lift, for head light reasons.
IIRC the headlight won't come out with the bumper on because the headlight washer fouls it. ;)
Mmmnope. Hence the trim piece underneath. Headlight sits above the bumper by an inch or so. No?
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts ::)
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts ::)
(Its an old age thing I guess.)
Mr P. This is the omega forum, you want the chavs forum over on Vauxhall owners ::)
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The bulbs themselves are a piece of cake to change, but you need to take the headlight out, .....
which on the better looking cars involves removing/dropping the front bumper ;) ;)
Only on Elites and MFL MV6s
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts ::)
Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off... ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts ::)
Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off... ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....
Its two seconds to get the headlight out, what's wrong with you? ;D
(And a bit of tape to hold the bolt in the socket to refit, admittedly, a hole 5 seconds)
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Bumper doesn't need to come off on the over complicated older design either ::) (As Robsey MV6 will gladly testify :y)
On the faaar superior facelift, you don't even need to remove the headlight washer ;D
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Only doubt I have is the mini face lift washers. I've not owned a car with those.
But I'd of thought the light would clear those too, similar height to superior face lift ones?
the washer bolts to the bottom of the lamp. No idea on the Astra G facelifts ::)
Bumper removal not necessary on the inferior FL models, but its easier with it off... ...and as it only takes a couple of minutes to remove....
Its two seconds to get the headlight out, what's wrong with you? ;D
(And a bit of tape to hold the bolt in the socket to refit, admittedly, a hole 5 seconds)
There speaketh somebody who has never had melted headlights :P
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Bumper doesn't need to come off on the over complicated older design either ::) (As Robsey MV6 will gladly testify :y)
On the faaar superior facelift, you don't even need to remove the headlight washer ;D
If you don't want the bumper, or at least prepared to risk the excessive amount of stress you need to put it under....
Mind you, it IS possible to remove the washer from headlight in situ. But its fiddly to remove, and frustrating to put back on. And bumper comes off in 5 mins.
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Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.
And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way. ;D
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Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.
And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way. ;D
I was replying to Ex Ta, oh never mind.
I'd still take the bumper off. In fact its quicker to remove bumper on inferior FL than superior PFL, due to 4 (or 5 if MFL Elite) less screws, though you do have 2 of those pesky, bodge pins on the inferior FL.
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You had to remove your bumper anyway, due to said meltedness ::)
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You had to remove your bumper anyway, due to said meltedness ::)
Not last time I had the headlight out ::). I had to remove the bumper because the bottom mount didn't line up with the hole, something I fully appreciated after dropping the bolt into the depths of those Irmscher bumpers that catch everything ;D
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;D longer arms for Christmas then...
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Ffs, the op has a 3.2 elite.
And I'm sure he'd of said if the bloody thing had melted in any way. ;D
I was replying to Ex Ta, oh never mind.
I'd still take the bumper off. In fact its quicker to remove bumper on inferior FL than superior PFL, due to 4 (or 5 if MFL Elite) less screws, though you do have 2 of those pesky, bodge pins on the inferior FL.
Yes that doesn't suprise me at all. ::)
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
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Some interesting replys about bumpers ;D
On the GLS I changed 3 headlights over the years before I knew about that 3M kit and to change bulbs, Did struggle one time changing them in place no easy task, Much easier when off, As has been said it can be done without taking bumper off if you have the tools, Then again I haven't attempted to take off HIDs before, I'd have thought it best to remove the battery and wait some 30 minuets or so then they should be safe to handle wearing latex gloves to safe.
Good to know they just don't fail like halogen bulbs, Are they pink 1st thing when their switched on or pink all the time. If they did fail with no spares onboard it's not the end of the world there's still main beam and front fogs :y
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You need to rotate the levelling motor to access one of the screws on the bulb cover so best unplugging and removing the whole unit, then waiting :y
Doubt latex is kv proof, but do let us know how that works out :P
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An interesting watch Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dvPZ3H1Vm4). Wouldn't mind lights like that at all.. Every car should have the same lights, There are so many mismatched cars with different quality of lights, The amount of cars I've seen with poor lights or just one sided only and no doubt many on here if not everyone has seen at some point, Most likely every night even.
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
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Interesting thread.
If display is showing "field vision on the display" is the likely cause the level motor on the back of the headlight unit then? and how do you identify which side has the fault ?
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Interesting thread.
If display is showing "field vision on the display" is the likely cause the level motor on the back of the headlight unit then? and how do you identify which side has the fault ?
The most common fault when you gett hat message, is a fault with a level sensor, generally the front nearside wishone
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Interesting thread.
If display is showing "field vision on the display" is the likely cause the level motor on the back of the headlight unit then? and how do you identify which side has the fault ?
Tech2 can connect to the headlight levelling ECU and read codes and live values. It can also drive the motors up and down so you can check that they are working.
For those of us who don't have access to Tech2 I believe the advice is to pop the linkage off each levelling sensor and check that moving the sensor causes a corresponding movement in both headlights.
Likely causes (in order of frequency they have been reported on OOF)
- arm or linkage dropped off the sensor (usually the front)
- damaged wiring to front sensor
- faulty headlamp motor
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
3 of which will be completely unnecessary. ;)
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
3 of which will be completely unnecessary. ;)
Remind me, how do you change the wings with the bumper on ???
As to the 2 times due to headlights, sadly, the bumper has to come off as one of the replacement headlights has a problem with the lower mount being deformed on the OSF headlight unit. I don't think its possible to get a tool (or anything I have), in there to hold the mount in the right place, which trying to get the bolt in.
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
3 of which will be completely unnecessary. ;)
Remind me, how do you change the wings with the bumper on ???
As to the 2 times due to headlights, sadly, the bumper has to come off as one of the replacement headlights has a problem with the lower mount being deformed on the OSF headlight unit. I don't think its possible to get a tool (or anything I have), in there to hold the mount in the right place, which trying to get the bolt in.
But the op had none of these issues Mr Admin sir! Should we just turn the entire forum into one section headed " TheBoys garage blow up" ?
This is, omega owners>help section>SEE TITLE ...the car is a 3.2 Elite. It's not an Astra, or an inferior pre or a mini face lift, and it doesn't even have fire damage.
So stop being an eejit ;D
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If you two don't pack it in I shall stop the car...
;D
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;D sorry Dad ;D
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
3 of which will be completely unnecessary. ;)
Remind me, how do you change the wings with the bumper on ???
As to the 2 times due to headlights, sadly, the bumper has to come off as one of the replacement headlights has a problem with the lower mount being deformed on the OSF headlight unit. I don't think its possible to get a tool (or anything I have), in there to hold the mount in the right place, which trying to get the bolt in.
But the op had none of these issues Mr Admin sir! Should we just turn the entire forum into one section headed " TheBoys garage blow up" ?
This is, omega owners>help section>SEE TITLE ...the car is a 3.2 Elite. It's not an Astra, or an inferior pre or a mini face lift, and it doesn't even have fire damage.
So stop being an eejit ;D
WTF are you smoking? I want some.
Firstly you go off at a tangent, dragging me along, when turn it all around in order, oh I give up
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But there's no excuse now, you have a 120 piece set and some tape. ;)
Since the loss of my tools, that bumper has been off 4 times now :)
3 of which will be completely unnecessary. ;)
Remind me, how do you change the wings with the bumper on ???
As to the 2 times due to headlights, sadly, the bumper has to come off as one of the replacement headlights has a problem with the lower mount being deformed on the OSF headlight unit. I don't think its possible to get a tool (or anything I have), in there to hold the mount in the right place, which trying to get the bolt in.
But the op had none of these issues Mr Admin sir! Should we just turn the entire forum into one section headed " TheBoys garage blow up" ?
This is, omega owners>help section>SEE TITLE ...the car is a 3.2 Elite. It's not an Astra, or an inferior pre or a mini face lift, and it doesn't even have fire damage.
So stop being an eejit ;D
WTF are you smoking? I want some.
Firstly you go off at a tangent, dragging me along, when turn it all around in order, oh I give up
Just accept, the bumper does not need to come off to change a light bulb and move on. :)
I'm glad your finally seeing sence.
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Actually, he doesn't even need a poxy light bulb. At all! ;D
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All this arguing over changing a light bulb :o :o ;D
Can we get back on topic a little, Well the bulb part, Would like to clarify a few little things up.
When the HID bulbs are on their way out they go pink ?, Are they pink 1st thing when their switched on or pink all the time.
If the worst came to the worst where is the best place to get bulbs. eBay is a no no I'd imagine seen as there are thousands of different bulbs on there ranging from £5 to hundreds, Unless you know what your looking for..
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www.hids4u.co.uk :y
Will probably raise more questions though ;D
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www.hids4u.co.uk :y
Will probably raise more questions though ;D
;D ;D
Made an Avatar out one of my headlight shots :-X ;D
Thanks i'll check that site out. :y
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www.hids4u.co.uk :y
Will probably raise more questions though ;D
;D ;D
Made an Avatar out one of my headlight shots :-X ;D
Thanks i'll check that site out. :y
I got mine from hids4u. Cheaper than main dealer, turned up promptly so no complaints there.
Make sure to buy either Osram or Philips. Nothing else will do. If you buy the no-name HIDs you will be back to tell us that they only work intermittently :(
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Pictures of your lights won't really show the colours, unless you have a very good camera.
Its obvious when they are on their last legs, as the pink/purple tinge is very evident. Occassionally, they don't strike either.
However, HIDs do naturally degrade over time, so all else equal, new ones will be better than 10yr old ones. *BUT* el cheapo HID bulbs are not a patch on the OE ones. Hence, one of my cars has 15yr old bulbs, and the other has 10yr old bulbs.
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Not touting but I have a pair of mint HID's on the breaker with good bulbs in, may prove cheaper than new bulbs :-\