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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: MR MISTER on 18 September 2013, 18:08:25
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Just been listening to the deluded Nick Clegg. If I were Cameron, I would jettison the limp dems tomorrow and call a general election. I think they would walk it.
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Oh shadap you ! :P
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Tis a vaild observation nonetheless.
Heard some of his speech earlier, and he sounded like a demented loon...
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Tis a vaild observation nonetheless.
Heard some of his speech earlier, and he sounded like a demented loon...
Let's face it, labour are all over the place at the mo, hoping to get it together for 2015. A snap election would ambush them now.
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Snap election would be a good idea right now for a politician with a backbone. :y
Clegg has announced "free" school lunches for primary school pupils apparently.Theres no such thing as a free lunch.It just means Im paying for the lunches so their parents don't have to. >:(
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Snap election would be a good idea right now for a politician with a backbone. :y
Clegg has announced "free" school lunches for primary school pupils apparently.Theres no such thing as a free lunch.It just means Im paying for the lunches so their parents don't have to. >:(
someone must pay ;D
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I paid for my kids lunches,and everything else Cem. No-one is going to convince me its now my responsibility to also pay for lunches for everyone elses kids too. ;)
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I paid for my kids lunches, ;) and everything else Cem. No-one is going to convince me its now my responsibility to also pay for lunches for everyone elses kids too.
I pay for kids lunches, and dont have any brats myself.
As it happens, I can see value in this one though...
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I cant. Its the parents job.If they aint gonna pay for the lunches,they shouldn't have had the kids.Seemples. ;)
I went without many things for many years so my kids could have what I didn't.Now that job is finished,I pay far too much tax,so the govt. can use my money to pay for the upkeep of other peoples kids, many (if not most)of whom earn a lot more than I do.. Snot fair imo.
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I cant. Its the parents job.If they aint gonna pay for the lunches,they shouldn't have had the kids.Seemples. ;)
I went without many things for many years so my kids could have what I didn't.Now that job is finished,I pay far too much tax,so the govt. can use my money to pay for the upkeep of other peoples kids. Snot fair imo.
Well, my solution of shooting would be deemed to be unacceptable by the do-gooders :P. This is probably the next best thing.
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I paid for my kids lunches,and everything else Cem. No-one is going to convince me its now my responsibility to also pay for lunches for everyone elses kids too. ;)
work more ;D :P
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in a capitalist society the workers pay all the expenses .. while the masters rest and enjoy..
in another system all have to.. but it must be paid anyway ;D
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A civilised society should be based on people paying their own way,unless there is a genuine reason why they cannot do so.
This country lost sight of that a long time ago,and is much worse off for it. ;)
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Oi. Albs. Stop hijacking my thread. School dinners are a diversion from my general election. :P
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Already commented on that.And actually agreed with you for once. :P
Shall we discuss that principled,loyal, economic guru known as Vince Cable now ? ;D
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I agree with STEMO election now, UKip and Tory coalition :y :y :y
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Already commented on that.And actually agreed with you for once. :P
Shall we discuss that principled,loyal, economic guru known as Vince Cable now ? ;D
7.62 or 9mm or 12 bore... decisions, decisions ::)
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Me or Vince ? :-\................ ;D
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Me or Vince ? :-\................ ;D
I genuinely think that poor old Vince has lost it. His logic has deserted him and, in stark contrast to how he appeared at the start of the coalition, he comes across as a stupid old fool.
Drugs? Dementia? Who knows?
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Surely a rhetorical question ;D both of you ;D
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CaMoron can't call an election as he and the Dim Lems changed the law so we now have 5 year fixed terms. >:( >:( >:( This means he can only stand down and let Liebour and the Dim Lems form a coalition. >:( >:( >:( When they
did this political stitch up passed this law I knew it was bad for what little democracy we have left. >:( >:( >:(
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CaMoron can't call an election as he and the Dim Lems changed the law so we now have 5 year fixed terms. >:( >:( >:( This means he can only stand down and let Liebour and the Dim Lems form a coalition. >:( >:( >:( When they did this political stitch up passed this law I knew it was bad for what little democracy we have left. >:( >:( >:(
Oh yeah....forgot about that.
What if a vote of no confidence was passed?
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I think the other parties will try to govern or even one party as a minority government. I think there are special circumstances when the Queen can dissolve parliament, but I don't know what they are.
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The trouble at the moment is that all three main party leaders are of such a low standard that it makes
voting a complete waste of time. That is the shame of it all. :(
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EQUAL marriage, retaining the Human Rights Act and teaching climate change in schools are all Liberal Democrat achievements the electorate should remember when voting in 2015, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has said.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/430412/Don-t-let-Ukip-isolationism-ruin-Britain-Nick-Clegg-tells-Liberal-Democrat-conference (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/430412/Don-t-let-Ukip-isolationism-ruin-Britain-Nick-Clegg-tells-Liberal-Democrat-conference)
Achievements? ::) ::)
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as I said before ; trying to find a solution in a system who originally created the problem has one word definition : desperado!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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and as for UKIP, if I were there I would vote them, but they will never ever be permitted..
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The trouble at the moment is that all three main party leaders are of such a low standard that it makes
voting a complete waste of time. That is the shame of it all. :(
I suspect Cameron is more shrewd than people give him credit for :-\ the other two are weak, indecisive and reactive rather than proactive. And although the law regarding fixed terms has been changed, that was a response to the previous governments total contempt of the British people and the system of government as a whole.
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EQUAL marriage, retaining the Human Rights Act and teaching climate change in schools are all Liberal Democrat achievements the electorate should remember when voting in 2015, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has said.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/430412/Don-t-let-Ukip-isolationism-ruin-Britain-Nick-Clegg-tells-Liberal-Democrat-conference (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/430412/Don-t-let-Ukip-isolationism-ruin-Britain-Nick-Clegg-tells-Liberal-Democrat-conference)
Achievements? ::) ::)
Well they are liberal ::)
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and as for UKIP, if I were there I would vote them, but they will never ever be permitted..
Not sure, as the UK public is now stupid enough to give them a large enough vote, as the rise in support for the BNP a while ago.
We can hope that doesn't happen, as at least the other useless 3 have some coherent policies. Not being in government is far easier than being in apparent control.
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Have you studied their policies ? ???
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Have you studied their policies ? ???
Oh, thats what they're called ;D
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I will take that as a no then. ;)
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I will take that as a no then. ;)
You would assume incorrectly, my friend ;). Currently, I don't think they are capable to govern, which is why I currently would vote for one of the other 3 useless parties first.
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A civilised society should be based on people paying their own way,unless there is a genuine reason why they cannot do so.
This country lost sight of that a long time ago,and is much worse off for it. ;)
How very true Albitz! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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I can sort of understand that TB,and tbh I would be amazed if they were in a position to govern in the near future.
On the other hand,the 3 main parties are now so alike it hardly matters which one of them you vote for.They will all ignore their electorate,ignore their own manifestos and carry on along the same ruinous road they have taken the country on for decades.
I vote for UKIP because I believe (mostly) in what they believe in,and as someone said - a Tory UKIP coalition would be the best compromise in current circumstances.
It would finish Camerons career and pull the Tory party back the centre right where it belongs,and where the silent majority of British peoples beliefs lie.
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the 3 main parties are now so alike it hardly matters which one of them you vote for
I think, in reality, senior civil servants make all but the headline decisions.
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the 3 main parties are now so alike it hardly matters which one of them you vote for
I think, in reality, senior civil servants make all but the headline decisions.
Yes Minister! :D :D :D ;)
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the 3 main parties are now so alike it hardly matters which one of them you vote for
I think, in reality, senior civil servants make all but the headline decisions.
Yes Minister! :D :D :D ;)
We all know that (the original series from the 80s) was so desperately close to reality.....
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You mean "masterly inaction" from ministers so 'common purpose' civil servants can get on with it. No good will come from this. ::) :o :o :o :o
UKIP are a young inexperienced party which is both their strength and weakness, but all the other parties have young inexperienced leaders who have never had a proper job and it shows. :( If you were looking for a director for a company, can you say you would pick anybody in the cabinet or shadow cabinet, because I certainly wouldn't and they are the directors wrecking running UK Plc. :(
If they had any experience of turning around a heavily indebted company with a falling market share and turnover, the first thing that you do is concentrate on the core income streams and jettison all discretionary spending like overseas aid and windmill subsidies. You then concentrate on reforming the company, by looking at how you can cut costs and increase turnover to get it back to profitability. None of this had been done by the current government
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What's left of it anyways :-\
Trouble is, with all the crap that has gone before, there's alot of damage limitation to do before any progress can be made, but due to the compromising nature of democracy, muddling through is the best anyone can hope for :'(
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My vote is certainly UKip, the EU elections will show Camoron who and what the people want :y :y
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I'm sure all these politicians go into it for all the right reasons, genuinely hoping to make a difference, and spread their (usually unworkable) ideals, only to realise politics is about give and take, compromise.
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I'm sure all these politicians go into it for all the right reasons, genuinely hoping to make a difference, and spread their (usually unworkable) ideals, only to realise politics is about lining your own nest at everybody elses expense.
There you go I've fixed that for you. :y
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I'm sure all these politicians go into it for all the right reasons, genuinely hoping to make a difference, and spread their (usually unworkable) ideals, only to realise politics is about lining your own nest at everybodies elses expense.
There you go I've fixed that for you. :y
Well, yes, a sizable minority are little more than thieves >:(
But I think/hope that the majority still have some inkling to persuing "doing [wthat they thing is] the right thing"
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Godfrey Bloom - once more sums up my reason for not voting UKIP! ::) ::) ::) ::)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24180853
UKIP are not ready for National, let alone International politics.
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What a Numpty!! ::)
I'm sure that it was a joke of the moment kind of remark and nobody in the room took offence, but when will the man learn that the media and other parties will jump on this sort of thing and blow it out of all proportion!! ???
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Godfrey Bloom - once more sums up my reason for not voting UKIP! ::) ::) ::) ::)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24180853
UKIP are not ready for National, let alone International politics.
Stones and glass houses spring to mind:
31 March, 2004:
The MP expelled from the Tories for telling a joke about drowned Chinese cocklers has been allowed back after making an unreserved apology.
Congleton MP Ann Winterton, 63, had the party whip withdrawn over remarks made during an after-dinner speech.
18th July 2013:
Liberal Democrat MP David Ward has had his party’s whip withdrawn over controversial comments he made in the lead-up to Holocaust Day in January.
22 December 2011:
Aidan Burley, MP for Cannock Chase in Staffordshire, was with 12 friends, some of whom chanted ‘Hitler, Hitler, Hitler’. One toasted the ‘Third Reich’ and one taunted a waiter for being French.
It's no big deal for the Tories and LibDems, but when someone from UKIP oversteps the mark — and has the whip suspended — it becomes a reason not to vote for them? ::) ::)
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Well Put Nickbat :y :y :y :y
The left wing BBC and its media cronies will jump on this like a rash :( :( :(
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Godfrey Bloom has had the party whip withdrawn and is likely to be kicked out of the party. He has pointed out that the old original meaning of "slut" was - a dirty,sovenly woman,which would fit with the conversation he was having.
That doesn't matter though,he seems ill disciplined and doesn't understand the ammo he gives to political opponents,and for that reason,they might be better to get shot of him imo.
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Already commented on that.And actually agreed with you for once. :P
Shall we discuss that principled,loyal, economic guru known as Vince Cable now ? ;D
7.62 or 9mm or 12 bore... decisions, decisions ::)
Rope.
It's reusable on the next lying scumbag.
Who will be along shortly.
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But rope just doesn't have the satisfying click, crunch, bang to it ::)
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Godfrey Bloom - once more sums up my reason for not voting UKIP! ::) ::) ::) ::)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24180853
UKIP are not ready for National, let alone International politics.
Another non-story.
However, it shows that UKIP is absolutely no different to the big 3, and are puppets of our media. Which for a party that claims to be different...
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Part of the reason the three parties are so similar in Westminster is that 80% of our laws are now made in Brussels with much more areas coming under QMV (qualified majority voting) under the Lisbon treaty in January 2014. >:( >:( >:( >:(
If our relationship with the EU does not change through negotiation then by 2020 the UK will be a province of the EUSSR with all major decisions made in Brussels. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I watched the programme about Angela Merkel last night and noted the closing inference that Cameron and Merkel were in some form of private discussion about ideas to sort out the EU. I hope this proves to bear fruit and serious cut backs into the Brussels nonsense emerges.
Slightly off topic but Silliband yesterday was not arguing for things that will grow business and influence a positive economic recovery but how he was going to reverse benefit cuts i.e. all pay out from taxpayers pockets and nothing/clueless on economic recovery.
I was in Hamburg last week and visited one project being built - yes in Germany - all the brand new storage tanks being commissioned were made in UK, the engineering design was a UK company, the specialised cleaning plant was from Italy with an Italian team doing the installation - maybe we have more to offer out there than we think we have. Also met up with my son's mate who is in engineering recruitment - business is booming particularly in Midlands - Rolls Rover, Landrover, energy etc.
Back on topic - if the true picture on the state of economy could be better delivered it would be helpful for voters in a general election - but I suspect another couple of years is necessary to really assess just where we are and if policies are working.
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oh and yes - the Godfrey Bloom issue is a non story. Press as always up for bringing a focus on the irrelevant.
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Godfrey Bloom - once more sums up my reason for not voting UKIP! ::) ::) ::) ::)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24180853
UKIP are not ready for National, let alone International politics.
Stones and glass houses spring to mind:
31 March, 2004:
The MP expelled from the Tories for telling a joke about drowned Chinese cocklers has been allowed back after making an unreserved apology.
Congleton MP Ann Winterton, 63, had the party whip withdrawn over remarks made during an after-dinner speech.
18th July 2013:
Liberal Democrat MP David Ward has had his party’s whip withdrawn over controversial comments he made in the lead-up to Holocaust Day in January.
22 December 2011:
Aidan Burley, MP for Cannock Chase in Staffordshire, was with 12 friends, some of whom chanted ‘Hitler, Hitler, Hitler’. One toasted the ‘Third Reich’ and one taunted a waiter for being French.
It's no big deal for the Tories and LibDems, but when someone from UKIP oversteps the mark — and has the whip suspended — it becomes a reason not to vote for them? ::) ::)
Did I say the other parties were perfect and faultless?
It is just UKIP want to show they are different and better than the rest, but Bloom highlights how they are not. There are also still questions on their neo-fascist connections. All in I will not vote for them, no experience, no pedigree, no track record, no large party discipline.
As for it being a "non-story", sorry but it is not in politics as that type of language against women, let alone his previous remarks, wins no votes. ;)
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I watched the programme about Angela Merkel last night and noted the closing inference that Cameron and Merkel were in some form of private discussion about ideas to sort out the EU. I hope this proves to bear fruit and serious cut backs into the Brussels nonsense emerges.
Slightly off topic but Silliband yesterday was not arguing for things that will grow business and influence a positive economic recovery but how he was going to reverse benefit cuts i.e. all pay out from taxpayers pockets and nothing/clueless on economic recovery.
I was in Hamburg last week and visited one project being built - yes in Germany - all the brand new storage tanks being commissioned were made in UK, the engineering design was a UK company, the specialised cleaning plant was from Italy with an Italian team doing the installation - maybe we have more to offer out there than we think we have. Also met up with my son's mate who is in engineering recruitment - business is booming particularly in Midlands - Rolls Rover, Landrover, energy etc.
Back on topic - if the true picture on the state of economy could be better delivered it would be helpful for voters in a general election - but I suspect another couple of years is necessary to really assess just where we are and if policies are working.
Chatting to a fella the other day who has just got back from a few months working for for a British company in Stockholm where they are building a new hospital. Apparently it's a huge project and the Brits are one of the main sub-contractors! :y
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I think, Lizzie, that UKIP know they haven't a chance in hell of getting loads of seats at a general election ( European elections are a different matter). But people will vote for them if only to shake some sense into the big two, esp. the conservatives. Never say never, look what happened in Italy not so long ago.
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I think, Lizzie, that UKIP know they haven't a chance in hell of getting loads of seats at a general election ( European elections are a different matter). But people will vote for them if only to shake some sense into the big two, esp. the conservatives. Never say never, look what happened in Italy not so long ago.
True Steve! :y :y
And that HAS already done some good, with Cameron knowing he has to watch his back even more so now :D :D ;)
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Camoron should know by now that he will win the next election if he uses UKip's policies, it is what the majority of people want.
EU referendum in/out forget renegotiation.
Stop immigration.
Stop foreign aid.
Cease ridiculous benefit payments to make it not worth working, E.G. single unmarried mothers with more than two children. Pay in or get now't.
Grow the economy
ETC ETC
It is common sense, and if UKip can force the conservatives to have a backbone then they will do their job, if they don't them labour will get in and freak everything up AGAIN
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Problem is, if Camoron promises yet another referendum, will anyone buy it? ;D
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Problem is, if Camoron promises yet another referendum, will anyone buy it? ;D
Is Cameron privatising that now? ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)