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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Shackeng on 03 October 2013, 10:42:57
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Having done a bit of research, I decided to order a pair of Bridgestone winter tyres. I was surprised to be told by Camskill that no-one imports the ones I wanted to the UK because they are: and I quote "winter tyres", ??? ??? ??? and therefore if you damaged the tyre, you would have to buy a new one abroad. As Mytyres will deliver here anyway, this seems an odd position for UK suppliers to take, the implication being that no winter tyres are sold by UK suppliers!. ??? ??? ???
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
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Chris give blackcircles a look :y had an email from them yesterday about buying winter tyres early ::)
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Thanks Al, BC are usually more expensive. The ones I fancied are Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 in 225 55 16, I can get them delivered for £95 from Mytyres, I'm just surprised at the suggestion that UK suppliers will not import them.:y
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
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i never put winter tyres on myself . not enough snow to get stuck in :y :y
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IIRC studded tyres are illegal for uk road use ::)
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IIRC studded tyres are illegal for uk road use ::)
Only if used in "unsuitable conditions" and are seen to cause damage to the carriageway.. so if everywhere is thick sheet ice or compacted snow with no road showing..
Wait, this is England not Finland, isn't it.. ;D Yeah, essentially illegal..
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I've got Dunlop Winter Sport 3D's which I purchased for a Winter drive to Austria, must say I was extremely impressed with them.
This is their tyre:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Omega/Tyres/2012-12-31%2009.21.47.jpg)
I drove through slush at motorway speeds, tracked pulled really well. Also thick snow in a hotel car park, normally would have been all over the shot, but just pulled and pulled. Also attempted an emergency stop, very impressive.
Do we get enough snow to purchase them on their own? Not really, I got them for Europe. But now I've got them, think they will be damn handy.
MPG took a hit though (as to be expected), around 10% :(
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Austria/WebPics/P1050357.JPG)
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I was also very pleased with my UG8's .. although the fronts are now bald as a ... on the inside edge :(
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Blizzak LM32 are rated good in the wet, which appeals to me.
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
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::)Good luck with that
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Blizzak LM32 are rated good in the wet, which appeals to me.
The UG8s are excellent in the wet (in the 15" sizes on my car, at least) - although I imagine there's a price difference to factor in; they were far from cheap (but the only thing I could get at the time).
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I've got Dunlop Winter Sport 3D's which I purchased for a Winter drive to Austria, must say I was extremely impressed with them.
This is their tyre:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Omega/Tyres/2012-12-31%2009.21.47.jpg)
I drove through slush at motorway speeds, tracked pulled really well. Also thick snow in a hotel car park, normally would have been all over the shot, but just pulled and pulled. Also attempted an emergency stop, very impressive.
Do we get enough snow to purchase them on their own? Not really, I got them for Europe. But now I've got them, think they will be damn handy.
MPG took a hit though (as to be expected), around 10% :(
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Austria/WebPics/P1050357.JPG)
I am precluded from ever buying another Dunlop tyre, (although I don't know all their subsidiary brands) in 1958 a brand new C41 on the front of my Mk1 Consul split down the tread centre after 4 miles, and Dunlop denied liability and refused to replace it. An elephant never forgets. >:( >:( >:(
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Sorry to hear that, sure there are plenty of others out there :y
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1958!!! A lots changed in the tyre world since then both in compounds, construction and company attitudes!! We're on radial ply tyres now ::) ::) Seems a bit OTT to preclude a decent tyre manufacturer because of something that happened some 55 years ago :o
Long time to hold a grudge ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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1958!!! A lots changed in the tyre world since then both in compounds, construction and company attitudes!! We're on radial ply tyres now ::) ::) Seems a bit OTT to preclude a decent tyre manufacturer because of something that happened some 55 years ago :o
Long time to hold a grudge ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
You should have met my mother! ;D ;D ;D
Its the only way I can show my disgust at their attitude, and seriously, how else do you show that you are not going to put up with bad service? If they care to apologise I might reconsider, but I doubt that will happen any time soon. Fortunately, as Tunnie says, there are plenty of other good tyres around. :y
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IIRC studded tyres are illegal for uk road use ::)
I know.. just in case..
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
I have used pirelli snoways (better than avg ), micheline alpines (may be ok for uk snow ;D but not for here), bridgestone blizzaks (didnt lke them), semperits (avg) best on price peformance without doubt goodyear .. there are others but not necessary at the moment..
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
no..
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
no..
What? No you haven't used them, or no they are not new?
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
no..
What? No you haven't used them, or no they are not new?
they are not new.. and I can say I tried different blizzaks and different sizes in LM series none of them were ok.. if you ask me avoid..
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price may differ here and there but at least go for dunlops (3d)..
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and if you are living on a hilly area , I must warn you that if it converts to ice no normal winter tyre can push omega except studded ones.. :-\
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
no..
What? No you haven't used them, or no they are not new?
they are not new.. and I can say I tried different blizzaks and different sizes in LM series none of them were ok.. if you ask me avoid..
Far be it from me to accuse you of a terminological inexactitude Cem, but if this quote is correct then you must have been using the LM32's at least 2 years before they were introduced. Congratulations!
Bridgestone Americas used its 2013 Drive and Learn product introduction – held at the end of March in Las Vegas – to roll out four new tires to dealers and media, as well as recap both Bridgestone and Firestone brand strategies, accomplishments and promotions.
Introduced – and put to the test on the Las Vegas Motor Speedway – were the Bridgestone brand Dueler H/P Sport AS and Potenza RE97AS, while two more tires – the new Bridgestone Potenza RE-11A and Blizzak LM-32 – were unveiled but not tested.
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Yep, another tyre thread........ ;) ;) ::) ::)
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its a bit early for shops to bring.. they start normally next month here.. :-\
please check for goodyear UG 8 series with a fresh date (they are #1).. also if they also dont exist goodyear vector 4 season will do the job in %80 of occasions.. (if you are not living on a hill)
Which I am!
avoid blizzaks.. they harden very quickly!
if ug8 not existent in your size check goodyear extreme.. (they are also studdable)
Evidence please.
I have used them .. 2nd season start to harden.. normally I use winter tyres 5 winter seasons..
LM32's? I thought they were new this year. ???
no..
What? No you haven't used them, or no they are not new?
they are not new.. and I can say I tried different blizzaks and different sizes in LM series none of them were ok.. if you ask me avoid..
Far be it from me to accuse you of a terminological inexactitude Cem, but if this quote is correct then you must have been using the LM32's at least 2 years before they were introduced. Congratulations!
Bridgestone Americas used its 2013 Drive and Learn product introduction – held at the end of March in Las Vegas – to roll out four new tires to dealers and media, as well as recap both Bridgestone and Firestone brand strategies, accomplishments and promotions.
Introduced – and put to the test on the Las Vegas Motor Speedway – were the Bridgestone brand Dueler H/P Sport AS and Potenza RE97AS, while two more tires – the new Bridgestone Potenza RE-11A and Blizzak LM-32 – were unveiled but not tested.
it may be a new design but name "lm 32" appeared on the market at least 4-5 years ago.. :-\ anyway , it doesnt change my verdict about blizzaks..
I will never buy them again neither for me nor for my friends..
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Oh! Is it that time of year already? ::)
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Oh! Is it that time of year already? ::)
today on the road to home , it was rain + snow but melted as soon as it hits the windscreen.. ??? this year snow may come early..
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Then again, it might not ;D
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
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blizzak LM 32
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Bridgestone/Blizzak-LM32.htm (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Bridgestone/Blizzak-LM32.htm)
Shackeng, please check this link.. as you can see this tyre was existent before..
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
check the link.. its not a new tyre.. ;)
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Ooooooo I love a good tyre thread!!! :D Handbags!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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It must be crap, it only came second :o
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It must be crap, it only came second :o
....says the 40th order tyre advisor ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It must be crap, it only came second :o
.... and gets 90%+ in everything bar comfort ::)
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anyone who want to test them can try with their money of course ::)
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;D ;D ;D
It must be crap, it only came second :o
....says the 40th order tyre advisor ;D ;D ;D ;D
At least the tyres I recommend have actually been used by me on an Omega ;D
Will you never learn...
Reading your own link, it came second in Autobilds winter tyre test 2011 and 2012 ::)
Also noteworthy, not one of the sizes tested is an Omega size ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
It must be crap, it only came second :o
....says the 40th order tyre advisor ;D ;D ;D ;D
At least the tyres I recommend have actually been used by me on an Omega ;D
Will you never learn...
Reading your own link, it came second in Autobilds winter tyre test 2011 and 2012 ::)
Also noteworthy, not one of the sizes tested is an Omega size ;D ;D
it was on the market before 2010.. ;) I bought it because one close friend was a local supplier and gave them cheap.. and they were useless in the middle of second year.. at similiar times some friends also bought from him.. nobody used it for long time.. :-\
they may have "developed" the tyre or may have developed some relations ;) ;D try at your own risk..
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx :-X
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;D fancy that :y
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx :-X
There is a new version of the LM 32, so I think in this case you are both right. Yes, there is already an LM 32 as cem has stated and there is now a new version. :y
Now retiring to a safe distance, with my box of popcorn. 8)
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx (http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx) :-X
There is a new version of the LM 32, so I think in this case you are both right. Yes, there is already an LM 32 as cem has stated and there is now a new version. :y
Now retiring to a safe distance, with my box of popcorn. 8)
summer tyres like bridgestone potenza.. I can buy any day .. but blizzaks for snow.. a definite no..
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
Think an apology may be in order mate having looked at a number of references to Blizzak LM 32 tyres dating back to 2009! It may well be that a new version of this tyre has been released, but that doesn't change the fact that you have wrongly accused a fellow OOFer of being a liar >:(
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx (http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx) :-X
you cant polish a turd ;D or may be you can ::)
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx (http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx) :-X
you cant polish a turd ;D or may be you can ::)
Well, I've seen glowing reviews of Conti SC5s, and we know for a fact that (on an Omega) they are complete, utter, shite.
Hence 2 of mine came off after less than 4k miles, and I'm saving pennies to get rid of the remaining 2 ;)
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx (http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx) :-X
you cant polish a turd ;D or may be you can ::)
Well, I've seen glowing reviews of Conti SC5s, and we know for a fact that (on an Omega) they are complete, utter, shite.
Hence 2 of mine came off after less than 4k miles, and I'm saving pennies to get rid of the remaining 2 ;)
I knew sooner or later you will use that ::) ;D
raise your car to original height, then we will talk later ;D :y
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http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx (http://www.tirereview.com/Article/113539/bridgestone_launches_tires_recaps_brand_strategies.aspx) :-X
you cant polish a turd ;D or may be you can ::)
Well, I've seen glowing reviews of Conti SC5s, and we know for a fact that (on an Omega) they are complete, utter, shite.
Hence 2 of mine came off after less than 4k miles, and I'm saving pennies to get rid of the remaining 2 ;)
I knew sooner or later you will use that ::) ;D
raise your car to original height, then we will talk later ;D :y
Don't you recall, they ended up on the MV6 whilst the Dunlop TTs were on the (lowered) Elite...
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Bit rich from someone running spacers >:(
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Bit rich from someone running spacers >:(
too many people around the world using spacers .. they were carved from T6 alloy in front of my eyes.. and experienced no negative side effects...
remember I'm an engineer.. :)
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
Think an apology may be in order mate having looked at a number of references to Blizzak LM 32 tyres dating back to 2009! It may well be that a new version of this tyre has been released, but that doesn't change the fact that you have wrongly accused a fellow OOFer of being a liar >:(
Fair comment, and I am happy to apologise Cem.
I also apologise for foolishly believing the publicity blurb in the link. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
Think an apology may be in order mate having looked at a number of references to Blizzak LM 32 tyres dating back to 2009! It may well be that a new version of this tyre has been released, but that doesn't change the fact that you have wrongly accused a fellow OOFer of being a liar >:(
Fair comment, and I am happy to apologise Cem.
I also apologise for foolishly believing the publicity blurb in the link. :-[ :-[ :-[
apology accepted :) :y
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Fine, but don't state as fact something which is a blatant untruth. :y
Think an apology may be in order mate having looked at a number of references to Blizzak LM 32 tyres dating back to 2009! It may well be that a new version of this tyre has been released, but that doesn't change the fact that you have wrongly accused a fellow OOFer of being a liar >:(
Fair comment, and I am happy to apologise Cem.
I also apologise for foolishly believing the publicity blurb in the link. :-[ :-[ :-[
apology accepted :) :y
Nice one guys :y :y
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Yep, "it's always the same member" I'm told. ::)
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Yep, "it's always the same member" I'm told. ::)
here we go again ;D ::)
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Bit rich from someone running spacers >:(
Indeed. And non oe size wheels.
So, according to cems rules, no experience on that car is of use to anyone here. (Unless they have the same set up)
Much like the weather, roads and driving conditions in Turkey, bare little resemblance to UK.
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Bit rich from someone running spacers >:(
Indeed. And non oe size wheels.
So, according to cems rules, no experience on that car is of use to anyone here. (Unless they have the same set up)
Much like the weather, roads and driving conditions in Turkey, bare little resemblance to UK.
that generalisation is weird to say the least.. I did say that "tests involve measurements in which the order of tests wont change much with changing sizes"
but what I see Chris , you and Al continously chasing me for my posts to find a gap.. ;D you have to be patient ;D
ps: and as far as I know snow is snow, rain is rain independant of country..
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its not still going ::)
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Having done a bit of research, I decided to order a pair of Bridgestone winter tyres. I was surprised to be told by Camskill that no-one imports the ones I wanted to the UK because they are: and I quote "winter tyres", ??? ??? ??? and therefore if you damaged the tyre, you would have to buy a new one abroad. As Mytyres will deliver here anyway, this seems an odd position for UK suppliers to take, the implication being that no winter tyres are sold by UK suppliers!. ??? ??? ???
Iirc Aaronjb had a bad experience with Camskill, and having spoken to them on the phone I wouldn't believe a damn word they say, personally. Desperate to take money without the slightest care if they have what you want in stock.
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Having done a bit of research, I decided to order a pair of Bridgestone winter tyres. I was surprised to be told by Camskill that no-one imports the ones I wanted to the UK because they are: and I quote "winter tyres", ??? ??? ??? and therefore if you damaged the tyre, you would have to buy a new one abroad. As Mytyres will deliver here anyway, this seems an odd position for UK suppliers to take, the implication being that no winter tyres are sold by UK suppliers!. ??? ??? ???
Iirc Aaronjb had a bad experience with Camskill, and having spoken to them on the phone I wouldn't believe a damn word they say, personally. Desperate to take money without the slightest care if they have what you want in stock.
I've only bought from them twice, but had no problems. Has anyone used Oponeo? Seem about the cheapest, from Poland. :y
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Having done a bit of research, I decided to order a pair of Bridgestone winter tyres. I was surprised to be told by Camskill that no-one imports the ones I wanted to the UK because they are: and I quote "winter tyres", ??? ??? ??? and therefore if you damaged the tyre, you would have to buy a new one abroad. As Mytyres will deliver here anyway, this seems an odd position for UK suppliers to take, the implication being that no winter tyres are sold by UK suppliers!. ??? ??? ???
Iirc Aaronjb had a bad experience with Camskill, and having spoken to them on the phone I wouldn't believe a damn word they say, personally. Desperate to take money without the slightest care if they have what you want in stock.
Nah it was Mytyres that shafted me ;) well.. I eventually got a refund for the tyres that hadn't turned up in eight weeks, so they didn't really shaft me - just annoyed me immensely.
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Doh, remembered wrongly. Appologies.