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Title: jap v6s
Post by: tidla on 04 October 2013, 21:58:33
Anyone know much about these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-ESTATE-V6-24-AUTO-RED-VERY-CLEAN-/181231166715?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a323824fb

Seen one the other day in saloon form looking nice.

I love the Subaru s, but the parts situation on some models puts me off.
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: omega3000 on 04 October 2013, 22:35:23
Always liked the look of these too , heard of some mechanical problems and not sure on parts prices  :-\
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Vamps on 04 October 2013, 22:42:42
Absolutely a fabulous car and the engine is sweet as a nut...... :y :y

Needs an expensive service / belts / plugs and other stuff at 90000, don't use a stealer.. ;)

We had the saloon version for about 5 years, mine first then swmbo got it and also loved it, she likes quick..... :y :y
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 October 2013, 22:43:26
I had a Galant a few years ago and loved it!!  :y

It was on a J plate so was the older model to that one, but was well built and a pleasure to drive!  :y
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: kevinp58 on 04 October 2013, 22:53:56
Mitso engines are usually indestructable.  :y
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Nick W on 04 October 2013, 23:46:52
Always liked the look of these too , heard of some mechanical problems and not sure on parts prices  :-\

I had a Legnum(imported Galant estate) before the Omega. It's not as big as it looks, although the estate is pretty useful, and the car is comfortable. Interiors are well screwed together and durable, but look cheap and nasty, and the fake wood is laughably bad. The most interesting thing about the way they drive is that suspension travel is very limited. Otherwise, it's automotive valium.

Parts prices for Mitsubishis are horrendous. Galants also have a number of really expensive issues: the front wishbones are well known for creaking for a couple of days and then breaking, which always leads to bodywork damage plus the rear suspension is similarly complex; the tiptronic gearboxes are weak; the engines are gutless unless turbocharged, and also suffer from broken crankshafts(another Mitsubishi speciality); did I mention the cost of parts?

Avoid any GDi like the plague. That was the main reason for getting rid of mine which was starting to show all the usual expensive issues of a coked up manifold/head and knackered throttle body, both being very costly to sort. £15 each for the sparkplugs is a real kick in the wallet too. They're not even particularly economical, my 1800 was OK with me in it, but with passengers and/or luggage both the limited performance and economy disappeared. My annual trip to France cost the same in fuel as the Omega, yet the car struggled to top 90MPH. It's the only car I've driven that actually benefited from 98 octane fuel.

I can't complain too much though, I bought it for £300 and sold it for that a year later. I replaced the cambelt(£140 in parts with a trade discount!), changed the oil once and put 4 tyres on it.

Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 October 2013, 00:01:47
I can't complain too much though...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Vamps on 05 October 2013, 00:08:10
Always liked the look of these too , heard of some mechanical problems and not sure on parts prices  :-\

I had a Legnum(imported Galant estate) before the Omega. It's not as big as it looks, although the estate is pretty useful, and the car is comfortable. Interiors are well screwed together and durable, but look cheap and nasty, and the fake wood is laughably bad. The most interesting thing about the way they drive is that suspension travel is very limited. Otherwise, it's automotive valium.

Parts prices for Mitsubishis are horrendous. Galants also have a number of really expensive issues: the front wishbones are well known for creaking for a couple of days and then breaking, which always leads to bodywork damage plus the rear suspension is similarly complex; the tiptronic gearboxes are weak; the engines are gutless unless turbocharged, and also suffer from broken crankshafts(another Mitsubishi speciality); did I mention the cost of parts?

Avoid any GDi like the plague. That was the main reason for getting rid of mine which was starting to show all the usual expensive issues of a coked up manifold/head and knackered throttle body, both being very costly to sort. £15 each for the sparkplugs is a real kick in the wallet too. They're not even particularly economical, my 1800 was OK with me in it, but with passengers and/or luggage both the limited performance and economy disappeared. My annual trip to France cost the same in fuel as the Omega, yet the car struggled to top 90MPH. It's the only car I've driven that actually benefited from 98 octane fuel.

I can't complain too much though, I bought it for £300 and sold it for that a year later. I replaced the cambelt(£140 in parts with a trade discount!), changed the oil once and put 4 tyres on it.

Howay, that is hardly a comparison, the V6 shit off a brick, far faster than any Mig and a very light drive, mine was full auto and cloth, how I hate leather.... Sold at 136K Miles and never a penny more than service items spent.......that estate for the money, would I buy it, take out the leather and yes..... :y :y
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Vamps on 05 October 2013, 00:08:54
I can't complain too much though...

 ;D ;D ;D

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: henryd on 05 October 2013, 00:45:03
Absolutely a fabulous car and the engine is sweet as a nut...... :y :y

Needs an expensive service / belts / plugs and other stuff at 90000, don't use a stealer.. ;)

We had the saloon version for about 5 years, mine first then swmbo got it and also loved it, she likes quick..... :y :y

I had the v6 manual saloon as well,bloody fantastic car which I really regret selling :'(
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 October 2013, 10:17:24
Informative post from Nick I thought. :y

Always fancied the Galant/Legnum.

Even more so the vr4  (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/201108/drool.gif)



...but always weary of Jap parts prices. :(
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: tigers_gonads on 05 October 2013, 10:38:19
Informative post from Nick I thought. :y

Always fancied the Galant/Legnum.

Even more so the vr4  (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/201108/drool.gif)



...but always weary of Jap parts prices. :(


Looked after one of these for 4 months a while back for a mate.
I can confirm that they are a absolutely brilliant car in every way but the amount of fuel they use  :-X
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Broomies Mate on 05 October 2013, 11:45:48
Howay, that is hardly a comparison, the V6 shit off a brick, far faster than any Mig and a very light drive, mine was full auto and cloth, how I hate leather.... Sold at 136K Miles and never a penny more than service items spent.......that estate for the money, would I buy it, take out the leather and yes..... :y :y

With 161BHP and that lazy transmission, the Galant is epically slow.  I've, admittedly, only ever owned (or driven) one (1999, Saloon, Red, Leather 2.5V6 Sport).

0-60 9.3 Seconds and runs out of steam at 130ish.  :-\
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: henryd on 05 October 2013, 12:05:40
Howay, that is hardly a comparison, the V6 shit off a brick, far faster than any Mig and a very light drive, mine was full auto and cloth, how I hate leather.... Sold at 136K Miles and never a penny more than service items spent.......that estate for the money, would I buy it, take out the leather and yes..... :y :y

With 161BHP and that lazy transmission, the Galant is epically slow.  I've, admittedly, only ever owned (or driven) one (1999, Saloon, Red, Leather 2.5V6 Sport).

0-60 9.3 Seconds and runs out of steam at 130ish.  :-\

Mine was manual and that 160 bhp is compensated for by low kerbweight,thats the only reason mine had to go as it couldn't handle our pikey van weight wise :y
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: omega3000 on 05 October 2013, 12:32:29
Quote
Parts prices for Mitsubishis are horrendous. Galants also have a number of really expensive issues: the front wishbones are well known for creaking for a couple of days and then breaking, which always leads to bodywork damage plus the rear suspension is similarly complex; the tiptronic gearboxes are weak; the engines are gutless unless turbocharged, and also suffer from broken crankshafts(another Mitsubishi speciality); did I mention the cost of parts?

That was my initial worry  ;D ;)
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: Rods2 on 05 October 2013, 16:39:57
Honest John Review

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mitsubishi/galant-1997/? (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mitsubishi/galant-1997/?)

There are also a few threads in his technical forum.

Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: andrew38 on 05 October 2013, 17:03:44
I owned the legnum VR4 for 4 years, Mitsy parts prices horrendous but you don't need many. Engine is a sweet thing with a soft smooth tick over, couldn't hear it in the car. Liked the fuel though not sure for the non turbo, also much preferred full fat super 99, most Jap cars do even if de-tuned for export markets, they normally leave the high octane maps in the ECU. Cambelt service every 5 years very expensive and an all day job £700+, when doing it change the camshaft oils seals or it all has to come off again, and they are actually not that expensive and only adds an extra 30 mins to the labour. Camskill may do non VR4 parts they were my preferred supplier.

I have missed the Legnum so much I am importing a Legacy GT next year, Mitsy don't make a Galant/legnum equivalent anymore unfortunately.

Check for rust wheel arches and underbody around fuel tank, mine was 10 years old when imported and came from southern japan so had never seen snow or salt it was like new, but the Japanese tend to only lightly underseal, I had it completely sealed as soon as it was put on the road. The real killer is the front suspension struts they are double skinned so don't show corrosion until they are rotted through from the outside and showing in the engine bay, if they are heavily rusted around the shock mount run a mile as its fit only for parts.
Title: Re: jap v6s
Post by: andrew38 on 05 October 2013, 17:34:59
One last thing I notice its an auto. They cool through the bottom of the rad, the jackets split, 10 years is the max they will last, if the rad has not been changed in the last 5 years change it. If water gets into the box its toast in about 2 miles. The boxes have an external filter about £40.00 for a proper Mitsy, check the fluid there is a dipstick in the engine bay mine was on the right hand side, the fluid must be a nice red, the box holds about 8 ltrs and there is a drain plug so no dropping of sumps, do not use Dextron III it must be Diaqueen spec, or I think that is what it was called. I used Amsoil in mine fully synthetic, cost about £14.00 a ltr but about the best you can get. If gearbox is jerky and wont shift smoothly and those boxes are very smooth then its either old fluid burnt brown colour or the wrong fluid. I think all the radiators are the same for the 2.5 and the VR4 cost about £140.00 for a pattern part.

The VR4 had the 5 speed box all UK and export model Galants had the 4 speed auto. Only the GDi 2.4 got a 5 speed and that was only for the Japan domestic market never officially exported.

Hope my two posts help you, all the cars I have owned my Legnum was the best by far, everything worked right up to when I sold it. Every time I planted my foot I had a grin ear to ear, the 2.5 V6 would still do the same I am sure, very low end torque engine and loves to rev.