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Title: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: zirk on 11 October 2013, 18:23:17
Thought I'd give it a plug, reduced from £74.99 to £49.99, seams a good price for the Kit.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_899721_langId_-1_categoryId_255207

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Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: omega3000 on 11 October 2013, 18:29:20
Good price for all that  :y
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: tunnie on 11 October 2013, 18:31:35
Those 2 ton jacks are a bit too weedy for the Omega I feel, they do ok, but you need at least a 3ton  :y
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 12 October 2013, 08:47:39
Those 2 ton jacks are a bit too weedy for the Omega I feel, they do ok, but you need at least a 3ton  :y
They are fine, though lack the lift to get the stands on full height. And take a lot of pumping to lift the car.

I had a creeper (their type that converted to a stool) that was a godsend when my back was bad, but now I'm more mobile, found it less useful.
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: amba on 12 October 2013, 09:10:28
Agree about the jack,stands and creeper are ok but wouldn,t feel that jack is of much use on an Omega
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: r1 on 12 October 2013, 10:12:06
Agree about the jack,stands and creeper are ok but wouldn,t feel that jack is of much use on an Omega

I agree
the rest of the stuff is okay but you don't really need or in most cases  you already have
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 October 2013, 10:30:55
I have a cheap 2 tonne trolley jack like that from Toolstation or somewhere like that.

It lifts the Omega, but I have to get an axle stand under quickly as it won't hold it and gradually settles......  ::)
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: omega3000 on 12 October 2013, 12:34:52
Ive got a 15 year old trolley jack thats 2 ton capacity and lifted omegas fine , never lifted the whole car up with one though . Car ramps are a god send for working underneath and a little more reassuring  ;D I like to chock the wheels at all times , just a habit and the wheel chocks would be handy instead of an old brick  :(

I like the creeper but once lying flat on it i wont get back up  ;D
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 12 October 2013, 15:30:20
Downside of any creeper is you have to get the car 5 inches higher...
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: Broomies Mate on 12 October 2013, 19:05:31
Never had issues with any jack.  You are only lifting one corner of a car FFS!  ;D

As always, use axle stands...... never rely on a jack, no matter how massive your cock jack is!
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: zirk on 12 October 2013, 19:20:52
Downside of any creeper is you have to get the car 5 inches higher...

Or lose weight  :-X  ;)
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 October 2013, 19:40:05
Downside of any creeper is you have to get the car 5 inches higher...

I'll Mention no names :-X :-X...... but I imagine that some on here have trouble getting their beer belly under the car. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: omega3000 on 13 October 2013, 10:19:22
Downside of any creeper is you have to get the car 5 inches higher...

I'll Mention no names :-X :-X...... but I imagine that some on here have trouble getting their beer belly under the car. ;D ;D

No trouble , just use car ramps  :P ;D
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 October 2013, 10:31:52
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: Andy H on 13 October 2013, 13:55:25
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 October 2013, 14:02:50
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Do you also find the cogs in the release mechanism don't engage when the handle is low, while the jack is lowering the dif for a spring change for instance?
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: Andy H on 13 October 2013, 14:17:10
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Do you also find the cogs in the release mechanism don't engage when the handle is low, while the jack is lowering the dif for a spring change for instance?
The gears engage well (they appear to be perfectly aligned over the full travel of the handle) the issue is that they have big teeth with a lot of lash (I think that is the right word  :-\)  and the handle is able to slide from side to side which introduces more free play. The release valve seems to need a bit of force to start to open it but it turns freely afterwards.
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2013, 17:09:12
(Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
Poor workman and blaming tools ;D

They do take some getting used to, but are fine once you get used to them ;).  Better jacks available for similar money on the rare occasions Costco sell decent jacks  >:(
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2013, 17:10:26
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Do you also find the cogs in the release mechanism don't engage when the handle is low, while the jack is lowering the dif for a spring change for instance?
For all its other quirks, I don't recall that being an issue with mine...
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: chrisgixer on 14 October 2013, 18:20:55
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Do you also find the cogs in the release mechanism don't engage when the handle is low, while the jack is lowering the dif for a spring change for instance?
For all its other quirks, I don't recall that being an issue with mine...
Cogs no, on yours. Trigger happy, defo.
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2013, 19:01:21
Excess strain on the jack is partly due to the hardness and smoothness of ones driveway. If Tarmac the jack will dig in, or rough and the wheels won't roll under as the jack lifts, so due to the radius of the lifting arm the rear of the jack will lift unless the car is pulled over with the radius of the arm as it lifts. This places massive strain on the jack and I've seen the two tun jobs literally fold up under an omega.

The bigger 2.5 ton and above jacks have wider wheels and a much stronger chassis. (Although avoid the trigger happy sealey jacks, they are bloody lethal. Ime. Zero control when lowering the car)
I have a 3 tonne Sealey jack, bloody thing, lifts beautifully but has a sloppy gear arrangement between the handle and the release valve which makes control difficult
Do you also find the cogs in the release mechanism don't engage when the handle is low, while the jack is lowering the dif for a spring change for instance?
For all its other quirks, I don't recall that being an issue with mine...
Cogs no, on yours. Trigger happy, defo.
Its for people keen to get on. ie, quick.

;D
Title: Re: Heads Up - Halfords 5 Piece Lifting Kit 2 Tonne, 30% Off - £49.99
Post by: TheBoy on 14 October 2013, 19:01:37
Its = Was, obviously.