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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: aaronjb on 18 October 2013, 20:11:46
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Quick question;
It seems I (desperately) need to tackle the front bushes before our trip to Cornwall on the 26th and I'm not going to get time to get the geo done, so I figured the easiest way is to knock out the front bushes with the wishbones on the car and poly bush them (since I already have the poly bushes): http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90676.0
Question is - is it just a case of levering the wishbone out of it's home at one end with a bar or wood while you hacksaw the bush out, if you don't want to remove per the guide?
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Correct. Better wheels loaded, due to the angle of the wishbone.
(And no it won't collapse on you ;) )
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So wheel it over the pit, unbolt the front end of the wishbone, lever the arm out .. actually, I guess wheel it over the pit, unbolt the wishbone, lift the wheel off the ground, lever out the wishbone, drop it back down and hacksaw away?
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Drive it over pit.
Unbolt wb front bolt.
Pull it down to clear the subframe, and wedge a bit of 2x4 between the wb and the roll bar(for example) to hold it down.
Cut the bugger out. (Hole saw, then jig saw) being careful not to cut into the wb. Better to stop short and tear the last fraction of a mm with a cole chisel and hammer than go too far through.
Pop the polys in, bolt the bugger up again. 120nm, angle tighten 30, then 15degrees.
Jobbed. :)
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Allow plenty of time. I'm no mechanic, but I found it quite difficult and time consuming. I also found I needed a hand to get the wb lined up again.
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Allow plenty of time. I'm no mechanic, but I found it quite difficult and time consuming. I also found I needed a hand to get the wb lined up again.
You can line up the front bush quite easily by pushing/pulling the wheel forwards or backwards until it's back in line. :y
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
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Drive it over pit.
Unbolt wb front bolt.
Pull it down to clear the subframe, and wedge a bit of 2x4 between the wb and the roll bar(for example) to hold it down.
Cut the bugger out. (Hole saw, then jig saw) being careful not to cut into the wb. Better to stop short and tear the last fraction of a mm with a cole chisel and hammer than go too far through.
Pop the polys in, bolt the bugger up again. 120nm, angle tighten 30, then 15degrees.
Jobbed. :)
You make it seem so easy ;D
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Allow plenty of time. I'm no mechanic, but I found it quite difficult and time consuming. I also found I needed a hand to get the wb lined up again.
You can line up the front bush quite easily by pushing/pulling the wheel forwards or backwards until it's back in line. :y
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You make it seem so easy ;D
He does! I was secretly hoping he'd offer to come round and do it for me.. ;D
Thanks guys, though. Hopefully won't be too hard tomorrow! If you can hear the swearing from wherever you all are then it's not going well.. ;D
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
I think Chris must be younger than me. My joints wouldn't survive a morning crouched in the wheelarch sawing out the bushes :(
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Levers, bars, bats, kick, push shove the wheel. What ever you have.
With a bit of practice, half hour a side. 2mins to actually fit the polys and bolt it up.
Working tomorrow. Mental busy.
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
I think Chris must be younger than me. My joints wouldn't survive a morning crouched in the wheelarch sawing out the bushes :(
He has a pit.
I jack the car onto ramps.
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Make the cut towards the wishbone and that way if you do go slightly to far it won't have a negative impact on the strength
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And I doubt your joints, back, shoulders and neck are more knackered than mine. :)
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You could use a jig-saw.or if got a compressor, air saw. :)
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
I think Chris must be younger than me. My joints wouldn't survive a morning crouched in the wheelarch sawing out the bushes :(
He has a pit.
I jack the car onto ramps.
Correction, I jack the front wheels onto ramps.
Bah, you know what I mean. :y
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Courtesy of "Turk"
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/Turkpix/?action=view¤t=HowtofitFrontPoly-Bush.flv
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
Having replaced bushes on other cars, I'd need a bloody good reason to even consider trying it with the wishbone on the car! All the descriptions of how it's done reinforces that opinion. After all, it's only two more bolts, and it means you can evaluate the rear bush and the balljoint. As for doing it with the car on the ground, you must all be mad!
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
Having replaced bushes on other cars, I'd need a bloody good reason to even consider trying it with the wishbone on the car! All the descriptions of how it's done reinforces that opinion. After all, it's only two more bolts, and it means you can evaluate the rear bush and the balljoint. As for doing it with the car on the ground, you must all be mad!
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Or seen it. Its easy. ;)
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(Video won't play for me btw ;) )
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
Having replaced bushes on other cars, I'd need a bloody good reason to even consider trying it with the wishbone on the car! All the descriptions of how it's done reinforces that opinion. After all, it's only two more bolts, and it means you can evaluate the rear bush and the balljoint. As for doing it with the car on the ground, you must all be mad!
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Or seen it. Its easy. ;)
Poly wishbone bushes on mine. Plus the anti-rollbar ones(I wouldn't bother with them again). Replaced the rear bushes and balljoints while I was at it. There is no way I'd do any of this with the wishbone on the car.
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(Video won't play for me btw ;) )
Works ok here ;)
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
I think Chris must be younger than me. My joints wouldn't survive a morning crouched in the wheelarch sawing out the bushes :(
Did the TD this year, no problem, I'm 76. :y
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(Video won't play for me btw ;) )
The YouTube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Nfvr_CHQM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/rofl.gif)
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I found it a pain to cut in-situ, but your eyes are probably better than mine. I decided to remove the wishbone for the other side. As said, be careful not to cut into the wishbone.
Having replaced bushes on other cars, I'd need a bloody good reason to even consider trying it with the wishbone on the car! All the descriptions of how it's done reinforces that opinion. After all, it's only two more bolts, and it means you can evaluate the rear bush and the balljoint. As for doing it with the car on the ground, you must all be mad!
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Or seen it. Its easy. ;)
Poly wishbone bushes on mine. Plus the anti-rollbar ones(I wouldn't bother with them again). Replaced the rear bushes and balljoints while I was at it. There is no way I'd do any of this with the wishbone on the car.
Each to their own. But obviously I was referring to the process of fitting poly with the wishbones on the car. You can't really knock it, until you've tried it. It really is very doable. A one or two spanner job, in Haynes parlance. Especially for someone as handy with spanners such as yourself.
Also, obviously, if the rearward vertical bush is buggered its a bit pointless. May as well remove the wb's.
Don't want to be picky on a very helpful video, but to save some possible unnecessary agro...
Turks video mentions undoing the rearward bush bolt, there is no need to undo that rearward bolt.
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The other mahoosive plus for changing them on the car is that you don't then need a full geometry set up :y
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No real issue with doing it on car - the slight inconvenience of perhaps not being the best working environment is not enough to warrant the extra hassle of WB removal (that I find a real PITA).
The hard part is cutting the old one out - its slow and fiddly, this is the bit that will take the 30-60 mins per side. As Gixer says, don't quite cut through, then use a small cold chisel right by the cut to peel it up.
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Don't want to be picky on a very helpful video, but to save some possible unnecessary agro...
Turks video mentions undoing the rearward bush bolt, there is no need to undo that rearward bolt.
I know, I know ... gonna drag 'im in the office 'bout that ... when I can actually find the git boyo! ::)