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Title: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 18:55:49
Ok i admit it , i want another omega but everything im looking at seems way overpriced  ??? Even the 2.0 ones , there's one near me a 2.0 that needs 4 new tyres/new exhaust/no service history and no mot or tax ... He wants £250  :( Im thinking more £100 even with the right engine in it  :-\ Ok a car only worth what someone wants to pay for it but there is a limit  ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omegod on 23 October 2013, 19:07:59
I think they are scrapping at £250 at the moment
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 19:14:18
I think they are scrapping at £250 at the moment

 :o

Thats gone up then , not been that long since my last omega was valued at £160 scrap full car  :(
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 19:23:59
Want a proper car again I see  :D

Does appear a big lack of decent examples these days  :(
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:31:31
Does appear a big lack of decent examples these days  :(
They are old. Even at 12k a year, even the newest are 120k
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 19:33:39
Does appear a big lack of decent examples these days  :(
They are old. Even at 12k a year, even the newest are 120k

Gone are the days, when good examples were plentiful.  :(
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: symes on 23 October 2013, 19:39:01
did you phone that guy who selling 2.5 auto--round corner from me--rear arches are perfect-engine fully serviced-new belt and 3 litre cams--well  he wanted a bit more oomph-needs a front bumper sorting--so take it you didnt call him then-mate the days of £50 cars are long gone-- :'(
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: YZ250 on 23 October 2013, 19:40:57
Does appear a big lack of decent examples these days  :(
They are old. Even at 12k a year, even the newest are 120k

Ooooh, mines just turned 70K so a mere youngster then.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 October 2013, 19:42:31

Ok i admit it , i want another omega


 ::) pockets are heavy ?  ;D :D   I can help ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:46:40
I have a 78k example, always for sale  :-X
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 19:47:48
I have a 78k example, always for sale  :-X

Swapsies?
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 19:48:56
Want a proper car again I see  :D

Does appear a big lack of decent examples these days  :(

Veccy stays  :P Fully rebuilt and worth more to me than anything  :)

did you phone that guy who selling 2.5 auto--round corner from me--rear arches are perfect-engine fully serviced-new belt and 3 litre cams--well  he wanted a bit more oomph-needs a front bumper sorting--so take it you didnt call him then-mate the days of £50 cars are long gone-- :'(

Ah i forgot about that one mate , have you still got his number ? Pm me it when you can  :y

I have a 78k example, always for sale  :-X

Is that the silver p/f one  :)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:55:35
I have a 78k example, always for sale  :-X

Swapsies?
Err, no.

That said, yours is a very tidy example, one of the best I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:56:26
Is that the silver p/f one  :)
No, the poorly Silver Bullet has never been for sale.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 October 2013, 20:00:58
Is that the silver p/f one  :)
No, the poorly Silver Bullet has never been for sale.
As opposed to the far superior poorly facelift ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 20:02:39
I have a 78k example, always for sale  :-X

Swapsies?
Err, no.

That said, yours is a very tidy example, one of the best I've ever seen.

It might actually get some use soon, as 4 up touring my 2.2 struggles  ::)

Think I will need to jump start the damn thing  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 20:09:29
Market place is flooded with 2.2's . I mite be wrong but thought the 4 pot was under powered in an omega  :-\

Considering you can buy a V6 for the same money i cant see the point in buying a 2.2 especially as the mpg wont be far different for each  :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 20:13:02
Manual it's ok for me, it's done me proud. It's very easy to work on, far more so than V6. Will cruise at 80mph all day long.

Loaded up though, with passengers it struggles.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 20:18:34
Needs to be auto , so if it was 2.2 auto its going to be more power sapping  :-\ Dont want a race car  ;D but something with a bit of poke for overtaking without trouser changing  :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 20:18:53
Is that the silver p/f one  :)
No, the poorly Silver Bullet has never been for sale.
As opposed to the far superior poorly facelift ::)
You know you are wrong
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 20:20:05
Manual it's ok for me, it's done me proud. It's very easy to work on, far more so than V6. Will cruise at 80mph all day long.

Loaded up though, with passengers it struggles.
So will a Morris Marina. Doesn't mean its adequate.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 20:22:50
Manual it's ok for me, it's done me proud. It's very easy to work on, far more so than V6. Will cruise at 80mph all day long.

Loaded up though, with passengers it struggles.
So will a Morris Marina. Doesn't mean its adequate.

It's more than adequate. I would not want to drive to Austria in a Marina.  ::)

Bloody reliable engine though, not let me down. Silent, smooth (for 4pot) and easy to work on. Love my 2.2  :-*
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 20:34:42
Manual it's ok for me, it's done me proud. It's very easy to work on, far more so than V6. Will cruise at 80mph all day long.

Loaded up though, with passengers it struggles.
So will a Morris Marina. Doesn't mean its adequate.

It's more than adequate. I would not want to drive to Austria in a Marina.  ::)

Bloody reliable engine though, not let me down. Silent, smooth (for 4pot) and easy to work on. Love my 2.2  :-*

Its a Veccy engine thats why  :P ;D But with an extra ton weight to pull that would worry me especially on performance and mpg  ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 20:39:05
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 20:43:32
MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D
Diesel economy but sub diesel performance. Hmmmm ;)

But its depreciated as far as it will now.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 23 October 2013, 20:43:53
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 20:44:52
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
I'm guessing just sub 30mpg from fuel costing (here) 69.9ppl
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 October 2013, 20:46:31
Is that the silver p/f one  :)
No, the poorly Silver Bullet has never been for sale.
As opposed to the far superior poorly facelift ::)
You know you are wrong
;D I'm always wrong... just ask Cem :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 20:50:23
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
I'm guessing just sub 30mpg from fuel costing (here) 69.9ppl

Aye  :)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Andy H on 23 October 2013, 20:53:13
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
That's how you get 120K from a set of discs and 80K from a set of tyres ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 21:05:53
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
That's how you get 120K from a set of discs and 80K from a set of tyres ::)
He does drive incredibly slowly. Its his mission to get the best value from motoring. Exactly the sort that get my blood pressure through the roof every bloody morning.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Webby the Bear on 23 October 2013, 21:35:30
Loads of 2.2's on the Trader at the moment. Was looking in case the V6 blew up again merely out of interest
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 21:44:30
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
That's how you get 120K from a set of discs and 80K from a set of tyres ::)
He does drive incredibly slowly. Its his mission to get the best value from motoring. Exactly the sort that get my blood pressure through the roof every bloody morning.

Not that slow, MrsT tells me to slow down. Regularly.  :o
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: dbug on 24 October 2013, 00:47:09
Engine is mounted right way in the Omega though  :y

MPG? I get an "effective" 50+mpg  :D

 :o :o :o :o ???
That's how you get 120K from a set of discs and 80K from a set of tyres ::)
He does drive incredibly slowly. Its his mission to get the best value from motoring. Exactly the sort that get my blood pressure through the roof every bloody morning.

Not that slow, MrsT tells me to slow down. Regularly.  :o

We still talking about driving?  ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Vamps on 24 October 2013, 00:57:41
A 2.2 even in Auto mode is quite adequate for daily use, and much cheaper to maintain and service etc, we now have a V6, fast, yes but not necessary in daily use........ :y :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 October 2013, 08:32:02
Its a Veccy engine thats why  :P ;D But with an extra ton weight to pull that would worry me especially on performance and mpg  ::)

No its not, no Vectra was ever manufactured with one of these fitted.

And the Omega is about 200kg heavier
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 October 2013, 17:37:49
My 53 plate 74,000 mile MV6 cost £1300 two and a half years ago. That's the equivalent of a 55/06 plate today. :y :y

Best money I ever spent. :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 October 2013, 17:41:23
Needs to be auto , so if it was 2.2 auto its going to be more power sapping  :-\ Dont want a race car  ;D but something with a bit of poke for overtaking without trouser changing  :-\

 If you get caught changing your trousers while overtaking......Is it the same fine as overtaking whilst using a mobile phone? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 24 October 2013, 17:42:58
2.2 has enough for A/B road over takes, its after 80/90 the lack of power really shows. Boot it at say 70, you don't get much. In the 3.2, do the same and whey-hey 100+ easy & very quickly.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 17:59:27
2.2 has enough for A/B road over takes, its after 20/30 the lack of power really shows. Boot it at say 70, you don't get anything but volume. In the 3.2, do the same and whey-hey 130+ easy & very quickly.
fixed
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 24 October 2013, 18:04:34
2.2 has enough for A/B road over takes, its after 20/30 the lack of power really shows. Boot it at say 70, you don't get anything but volume. In the 3.2, do the same and whey-hey 130+ easy & very quickly.
fixed

It maybe under powered, but it has no warning lights on  :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 24 October 2013, 18:05:13
Actually bugger it does, headlight  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 October 2013, 18:16:21
2.2 has enough for A/B road over takes, its after 20/30 the lack of power really shows. Boot it at say 70, you don't get anything but volume. In the 3.2, do the same and whey-hey 130+ easy & very quickly.
fixed
Ain't that the truth ;D :-X
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 October 2013, 14:59:09
A/B road overtakes are the reason I bought a 3.2. They got a bit scary in my 1.8 Laguna, and I imagine they would be much the same in a 4 pot Omega, even more so if auto.

The problem these days is that you don't just have to overtake slow vehicles, you also have to get past the 3 or 4 retards who are following it, bumper to bumper, so close that they have no view of the road ahead and no distance in which to accelerate for an overtake. Of course, they leave no space for anyone to pull in either, so it's sh1t or bust. >:(

Thus, you need a car with a lot of poke in the midrange.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 October 2013, 15:01:02
... Alternatively, you can sit behind them thinking about how slowly your tyres are wearing. ;)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 25 October 2013, 15:08:45
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 00:01:24
... Alternatively, you can sit behind them thinking about how slowly your tyres are wearing. ;)

 ;D :D


Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 October 2013, 10:30:44
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2013, 10:33:21
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 October 2013, 11:34:35
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D

No no you've got it all wrong Tunnie!  ::)

A 'proper' Omega involves as many hours fiddling, fettling, blood, sweat, tears, skinned knuckles, frustration and bad language as actually enjoying and driving the bloody thing!!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2013, 11:35:21
Ohhh i see  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: mrgreen on 26 October 2013, 12:24:26
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

it maybe slow but i've had it two years and have only done brakes and oil changes e.t.c to it, very reliable and very easy to work on should the need arise as for not being a proper omega well......... ;)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2013, 13:14:25
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

it maybe slow but i've had it two years and have only done brakes and oil changes e.t.c to it, very reliable and very easy to work on should the need arise as for not being a proper omega well......... ;)

Good to see another fan  :y

Also exactly my thoughts, lovely doing jobs on my 2.2  :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: chrisgixer on 26 October 2013, 13:29:44
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D

I'll take that challenge. Provided at least an hour long drive too and from the venue is included in said challenge. ;)

Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: VXL V6 on 26 October 2013, 13:34:38
Bet you can swap a crank sensor on a V6 quicker than you can on a 2.2 (with Aircon) :-X
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 October 2013, 14:25:04
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D


Four pot........economy

Six pot..........excitement.

All depends what  'floats your boat'....... ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2013, 14:36:58
I reckon if the 3.2 was LPG'd the economy would not be too different  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2013, 14:58:56
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D

I'll take that challenge. Provided at least an 120mile drive too and from the venue is included in said challenge. ;)
Fixed :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2013, 15:02:30
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;)  ;D ;D

I'll take that challenge. Provided at least an hour long drive too and from the venue is included in said challenge. ;)

Fine  :y

Venue will be at Piccadilly Circus, Central London. Start time for work is 5:30PM next Friday.

Leave my flat at 4:30PM (London W3), should take about an hour to get there  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2013, 15:20:48
A/B road overtakes are the reason I bought a 3.2. They got a bit scary in my 1.8 Laguna, and I imagine they would be much the same in a 4 pot Omega, even more so if auto.

The problem these days is that you don't just have to overtake slow vehicles, you also have to get past the 3 or 4 retards who are following it, bumper to bumper, so close that they have no view of the road ahead and no distance in which to accelerate for an overtake. Of course, they leave no space for anyone to pull in either, so it's sh1t or bust. >:(

Thus, you need a car with a lot of poke in the midrange.
Taking the A283 Steyning bypass as an example (fast gentle sweep about a mile long), in my first car, a manual 2.3 Granada with 2.8 carb, overtaking was a doddle.

18 years later the Omega struggles sometimes :-\ I think there are three possible reasons for this, in no particular order...

1. With the improvements to turbo diesels, and car safety/comfort traffic speeds are generally higher.
2. My plums have been misplaced and replaced with a tempremental self preservation module.
3. My car is broken.

Whichever it is comfortable effective overtaking speeds do seem to alot closer to 80+ than the 50-60 of 18 years ago. The net result being that unless the obstruction speed is below 45 or the road ahead is plainly straight and clear for at least 1/4 mile, the only real option is to feel the tyres go cold and watch time go backwards :'(

That said, when everything comes together, even a rattly old estate can be an absolute joy to drive hard 8) which makes all the perceived maintenance grumbles worth every single second :-*
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 October 2013, 16:00:56
A/B road overtakes are the reason I bought a 3.2. They got a bit scary in my 1.8 Laguna, and I imagine they would be much the same in a 4 pot Omega, even more so if auto.

The problem these days is that you don't just have to overtake slow vehicles, you also have to get past the 3 or 4 retards who are following it, bumper to bumper, so close that they have no view of the road ahead and no distance in which to accelerate for an overtake. Of course, they leave no space for anyone to pull in either, so it's sh1t or bust. >:(

Thus, you need a car with a lot of poke in the midrange.
Taking the A283 Steyning bypass as an example (fast gentle sweep about a mile long), in my first car, a manual 2.3 Granada with 2.8 carb, overtaking was a doddle.

18 years later the Omega struggles sometimes :-\ I think there are three possible reasons for this, in no particular order...

1. With the improvements to turbo diesels, and car safety/comfort traffic speeds are generally higher.

2. My plums have been misplaced and replaced with a tempremental self preservation module.
3. My car is broken.

Whichever it is comfortable effective overtaking speeds do seem to alot closer to 80+ than the 50-60 of 18 years ago. The net result being that unless the obstruction speed is below 45 or the road ahead is plainly straight and clear for at least 1/4 mile, the only real option is to feel the tyres go cold and watch time go backwards :'(

That said, when everything comes together, even a rattly old estate can be an absolute joy to drive hard 8) which makes all the perceived maintenance grumbles worth every single second :-*



Yep....Eighteen years ago your Granada probably only had to dispatch a Marina or a smoky Mk3 Cortina. :y


Actually, that was probably closer to 35 years ago. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 16:43:36
Needs to be auto , so if it was 2.2 auto its going to be more power sapping  :-\ Dont want a race car  ;D but something with a bit of poke for overtaking without trouser changing  :-\

 >:( No.. buy a proper manual ;D

and avoid all later headaches.. :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 16:44:31
Is that the silver p/f one  :)
No, the poorly Silver Bullet has never been for sale.
As opposed to the far superior poorly facelift ::)
You know you are wrong
;D I'm always wrong... just ask Cem :P

now, what have I done/said :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 16:47:27
A/B road overtakes are the reason I bought a 3.2. They got a bit scary in my 1.8 Laguna, and I imagine they would be much the same in a 4 pot Omega, even more so if auto.

The problem these days is that you don't just have to overtake slow vehicles, you also have to get past the 3 or 4 retards who are following it, bumper to bumper, so close that they have no view of the road ahead and no distance in which to accelerate for an overtake. Of course, they leave no space for anyone to pull in either, so it's sh1t or bust. >:(

Thus, you need a car with a lot of poke in the midrange.

in case of urgency drive directly onto to them..  if they dont permit you, push the b*stard out of the road ;D :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 16:48:38
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D


yep.. unless it has turbo..
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 16:50:40
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;) ;D ;D


Four pot........economy

Six pot..........excitement.

All depends what  'floats your boat'....... ;D ;D :P

omega is heavy and imo its not economical even with 4 pot.. :-\ (unless lpg'd)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 October 2013, 17:13:49
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;) ;D ;D


Four pot........economy

Six pot..........excitement.

All depends what  'floats your boat'....... ;D ;D :P

omega is heavy and imo its not economical even with 4 pot.. :-\ (unless lpg'd)


I mean for economy of maintenance, Cem.

Cheaper and easier to work on...etc..etc.

2.0 and 2.2 four pot, especially in auto form, like a drink as much as the next Omega. ;)


Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2013, 17:28:02
Plenty of 2.6 autos knocking about EMD, a good compromise  :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 18:15:44
Pah, no faith in the 4 pot Omega.  :P


The four pot is not a proper Omega.........Not that I wish to upset anyone. ::) ::) ::) ::) :P ;D

 :P :P :P :P

Race you to a thermostat change & cam covers lets see who has a "proper" one then  ;) ;D ;D


Four pot........economy

Six pot..........excitement.

All depends what  'floats your boat'....... ;D ;D :P

omega is heavy and imo its not economical even with 4 pot.. :-\ (unless lpg'd)


I mean for economy of maintenance, Cem.


Cheaper and easier to work on...etc..etc.

2.0 and 2.2 four pot, especially in auto form, like a drink as much as the next Omega. ;)


that was good ;D :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2013, 18:56:59
It must be said that it seems possible to run a desmond for 160k miles without actually replacing anything ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 22:45:12
Plenty of 2.6 autos knocking about EMD, a good compromise  :y

Never liked the f/l design much myself .. and those expensive coil packs  :( I must be going mad as considered a mig diseasal  ::) Mite be better to wait till after xmas when everyone selling is skint and desperate to sell  :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 22:50:43
Plenty of 2.6 autos knocking about EMD, a good compromise  :y

Never liked the f/l design much myself .. and those expensive coil packs  :( I must be going mad as considered a mig diseasal  ::) Mite be better to wait till after xmas when everyone selling is skint and desperate to sell  :-\

Emd, diseasal are bmw lumps.. and not as economical as it sounds..  besides maintenance costs higher than ordnary v6 .. although some may not agree.. and to an extent they are more complex.. :-\

and honestly I wont recommend a 10+ year old diseasal auto.. imo
 
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 22:54:08
Plenty of 2.6 autos knocking about EMD, a good compromise  :y

Never liked the f/l design much myself .. and those expensive coil packs  :( I must be going mad as considered a mig diseasal  ::) Mite be better to wait till after xmas when everyone selling is skint and desperate to sell  :-\

Emd, diseasal are bmw lumps.. and not as economical as it sounds..  besides maintenance costs higher than ordnary v6 .. although some may not agree.. and to an extent they are more complex.. :-\

 :o

Diseasel struck off list , besides the worry of fuel pumps  :( Whats left  ::) Ermm 2.0 or 3.0  :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 22:55:27
Plenty of 2.6 autos knocking about EMD, a good compromise  :y

Never liked the f/l design much myself .. and those expensive coil packs  :( I must be going mad as considered a mig diseasal  ::) Mite be better to wait till after xmas when everyone selling is skint and desperate to sell  :-\

Emd, diseasal are bmw lumps.. and not as economical as it sounds..  besides maintenance costs higher than ordnary v6 .. although some may not agree.. and to an extent they are more complex.. :-\

 :o

Diseasel struck off list , besides the worry of fuel pumps  :( Whats left  ::) Ermm 2.0 or 3.0  :-\

ok bite the bullet buy a manual 3.0.. no headaches.. (really ? ;D )

ps: 3.0 easiler to lpg and calibrate than a 3.2..
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Andy B on 26 October 2013, 22:57:06
....
Race you  ......

 .....  and I'll even give you a chance by turning up in a diseasal  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 23:01:11
I would like a manual and tbh there are more manuals for sale so would make the choice easier but need an auto as my legs wont take much more pumping of the clutch  :'( I made some crafty offers on cars for sale but everyone sticking to the listed price and wont barter  :(
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 23:07:10
I would like a manual and tbh there are more manuals for sale so would make the choice easier but need an auto as my legs wont take much more pumping of the clutch  :'( I made some crafty offers on cars for sale but everyone sticking to the listed price and wont barter  :(

sorry to remind but you dont need.. please let your legs work :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 23:12:30
I would like a manual and tbh there are more manuals for sale so would make the choice easier but need an auto as my legs wont take much more pumping of the clutch  :'( I made some crafty offers on cars for sale but everyone sticking to the listed price and wont barter  :(

sorry to remind but you dont need.. please let your legs work :y

Having 4 steroid injections into my spine next month cem  :'( Hoping it will give me some relief .. just dream of being able to live a normal life and drive without pain . Auto is much better for my condition , maybe lazy to drive an auto but much easier on the feet an legs  :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 23:25:08
I would like a manual and tbh there are more manuals for sale so would make the choice easier but need an auto as my legs wont take much more pumping of the clutch  :'( I made some crafty offers on cars for sale but everyone sticking to the listed price and wont barter  :(

sorry to remind but you dont need.. please let your legs work :y

Having 4 steroid injections into my spine next month cem  :'( Hoping it will give me some relief .. just dream of being able to live a normal life and drive without pain . Auto is much better for my condition , maybe lazy to drive an auto but much easier on the feet an legs  :y


sorry to hear that but as a general rule stronger back and front muscles to spine will help more..  so imo keep them working as much as possible..  :y [although lacking of info about your condition]
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: omega3000 on 26 October 2013, 23:28:01
My car is in better shape than me  ;D Not to worry im sure the only cure is an Omega 3.0  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 October 2013, 23:33:54
My car is in better shape than me  ;D Not to worry im sure the only cure is an Omega 3.0  ;D

 :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Broomies Mate on 27 October 2013, 00:26:43
The V6 Omega lends itself to the Auto box.  In Manual form, it's not a LuxoBarge.

Of course, this discussion has been done to death.

I'll still kill any manual Omega from 20mph to 150mph
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 01:44:17
Keep telling yourself that ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 October 2013, 07:24:20
The V6 Omega lends itself to the Auto box.  In Manual form, it's not a LuxoBarge.

Of course, this discussion has been done to death.


I'll still kill any manual Omega from 20mph to 150mph


 ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 27 October 2013, 08:30:27
It must be said that it seems possible to run a desmond for 160k miles without actually replacing anything ;D

Almost  ;D

....
Race you  ......

 .....  and I'll even give you a chance by turning up in a diseasal  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Those 320's are 3.something V6's I think? That would easily have my 2.2, I don't expect to win any races in it  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Andy B on 27 October 2013, 08:37:26
....

Those 320's are 3.something V6's I think? That would easily have my 2.2, I don't expect to win any races in it  ;D

Confusingly, both the E320/R320 and E280/R280 are both 3 litre, but as you say a V6......  ???
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 October 2013, 10:53:56
The V6 Omega lends itself to the Auto box.  In Manual form, it's not a LuxoBarge.

Of course, this discussion has been done to death.

I'll still kill any manual Omega from 20mph to 150mph

Yes a 'proper' Omega dosn't need 3 pedals!  :P  :)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 11:29:39
The V6 Omega lends itself to the Auto box.  In Manual form, it's not a LuxoBarge.

Of course, this discussion has been done to death.

I'll still kill any manual Omega from 20mph to 150mph

Yes a 'proper' Omega dosn't need 3 pedals!  :P  :)
Given the quality of the brakes after a work out, a 'driven' manual effectively only has two pedals anyway :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 27 October 2013, 11:37:45
The V6 Omega lends itself to the Auto box.  In Manual form, it's not a LuxoBarge.

Of course, this discussion has been done to death.

I'll still kill any manual Omega from 20mph to 150mph

Yes a 'proper' Omega dosn't need 3 pedals!  :P  :)
Given the quality of the brakes after a work out, a 'driven' manual effectively only has two pedals anyway :P
I still maintain that if you are often hitting the dramatic fade (not just the initial fade after 2 or 3 80mph to 0 emergency stops in quick succession), you are really in the realms of track pads and better fluid, and accept the compromises of said pads.

Bigger discs may help for delay the fade briefly.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 11:55:52
Using Dot 5.1 as it is :-\ front pads are starting to grumble when hot, so due a change...  any temporary/shortterm suggestions :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 October 2013, 12:28:33
Using Dot 5.1 as it is :-\ front pads are starting to grumble when hot, so due a change...  any temporary/shortterm suggestions :-\

Wear a lighter right boot!  ;D
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 12:29:22
 :P
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 27 October 2013, 12:29:25
Using Dot 5.1 as it is :-\ front pads are starting to grumble when hot, so due a change...  any temporary/shortterm suggestions :-\

Wear a lighter right boot!  ;D

Don't drive it, like you stole it  ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 12:30:22
And where's the fun in that ::)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: Andy H on 27 October 2013, 12:31:24
Using Dot 5.1 as it is :-\ front pads are starting to grumble when hot, so due a change...  any temporary/shortterm suggestions :-\
How worn are they? The pad material acts as a thermal insulator. Once the pads are down to the metal there is a direct path for heat through the backing plate & piston to the brake fluid.

More noticeable in normal driving is the fact that the quantity of fluid in the system increases significantly when the pistons are extended due to worn pads. More fluid means spongier brakes (which is made worse if the fluid is old).

Not sure about DOT 5.1, is that the one that can withstand higher temperatures but starts off feeling a little spongy compared to DOT 4 ?  :-\ 

(short term suggestion, change the pads)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 12:36:57
They were fitted mid March, so well past their best :-\

Dilema is do I get a wriggle on and get the Monarto VXR brakes fitted, (at least the fronts), or do I try a pad upgrade with a view to testing for suggestions for better braking for 16" wheels :-\

If the latter, any suggestions for upgraded pads? Was thinking EBC Red or Yellowstuff, but very mixed reviews... :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 27 October 2013, 12:48:08
They were fitted mid March, so well past their best :-\

Dilema is do I get a wriggle on and get the Monarto VXR brakes fitted, (at least the fronts), or do I try a pad upgrade with a view to testing for suggestions for better braking for 16" wheels :-\

If the latter, any suggestions for upgraded pads? Was thinking EBC Red or Yellowstuff, but very mixed reviews... :-\

 :o :o

How many miles covered?  :-\
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 13:04:26
20k ish :y
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: tunnie on 27 October 2013, 13:07:44
20k ish :y

Ah's very reasonable miles from pads  :)
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: TheBoy on 27 October 2013, 13:27:28
Redstuff work well when hot, but you need to get heat in to them to get them to work at all, as is normal with most track pads.

I find that beyond about half worn, TC pads certainly lose any ability to dissipate heat, hence I change mine long before it hits the sensor (when I have tools, that is ;D), thus at 4-6k, my TC pads are usually spent.
Title: Re: Got a problem
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 October 2013, 13:44:47
Redstuff work well when hot, but you need to get heat in to them to get them to work at all, as is normal with most track pads.

I find that beyond about half worn, TC pads certainly lose any ability to dissipate heat, hence I change mine long before it hits the sensor (when I have tools, that is ;D), thus at 4-6k, my TC pads are usually spent.
Sensor, what sensor? :-X