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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: tooleater on 23 October 2013, 22:32:06

Title: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 23 October 2013, 22:32:06
As Im about to undertake/attempt Thermo change, I would like to know why its so called.
Is it a Bugger to get at..
Is it a Bugger to remove..
Is it an even bigger Bugger to put back..
Are you F----Does nt come out
OR
All of the above ;D
Cheers :y
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: albitz on 23 October 2013, 22:35:35
As Im about to undertake/attempt Thermo change, I would like to know why its so called.
Is it a Bugger to get at.. - yes
Is it a Bugger to remove.. - yes
Is it an even bigger Bugger to put back.. - yesAre you F----Does nt come out
OR
All of the above ;D
Cheers :y
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2013, 22:37:52
Basically, it's just a bstard  ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 23 October 2013, 22:42:41
So far only managed to practise removing the Plenum, should be fun
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: Andy H on 23 October 2013, 22:50:46
It goes through holes in 3 metal retainer plates (dip stick tube, water transfer pipe, engine lifting bracket), it goes into a threaded hole in the block that is at 27 degrees from the horizontal and it is slightly awkward to reach.

Because of the odd angle it is very difficult to force yourself to hold it at the right correct angle to get the thread started. All 3 metal plates need to line up with the hole in the block before it will go in and you can't actually see it so the process is all done by touch. I find swearing helps ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 23 October 2013, 22:57:03
Great explantion mate, sounds like talk from experience ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: martin42 on 24 October 2013, 06:30:43
Not a problem for me,but being left handed does help alot   ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 24 October 2013, 09:36:52
Bingo I just sussed how to make the job easier ;)
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Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 October 2013, 10:45:59
Best to follow Loo-Knee's video in the guides, i.e. loosen the housing from the transfer pipe by waggling it before loosening the B bolt. TBH, I don't know what the fuss is about. Yes, it's a bit awkward to get to, but it's far from impossible, and easier than a lot of jobs on the Omega (i.e. 3.0/2.5 coil packs, ABS ECU, rear coolant pipe, etc) IMHO.
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 24 October 2013, 10:51:08
Cheers for the tip Kev, have studied videos a couple of times, job set for sat, but looking at the weather now, might just go for it :y
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 13:20:57
An 8mm ratchet spanner makes removal a piece of cake.

Refitting, well, I always struggle, due to lining all the stuff up
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: tooleater on 24 October 2013, 13:25:33
Yip, there one in Halfords 170
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 14:03:42
Re fitting... Use a smaller item than the bolt, like a 4/5mm drill bit or a short scriber type object, to put through each item and into the block, just to get it all lined up.

Then hold all the brackets still, remove the drill bit/scriber or whatever, then put the bolt in.
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: Webby the Bear on 24 October 2013, 14:11:36
The B bolt is easy to come out, a PITA to get back in. thank god martin did mine.... after I reinstalled the dipstick tube in nano seconds  ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: YZ250 on 24 October 2013, 17:17:23
Just to make life more interesting, the DBW engines have two. One for the dipstick and one for the engine lifting bracket/ water transfer pipe. Oh, and another little bracket between the transfer pipe and the dipstick tube.
Just have to ram your hand down there and get on with it.  :y

I kept dropping both the bracket and the bolt when I did mine so I tied a bit of cotton just under the head of the bolt as a precaution. When the thread had started, I just snapped the cotton. Worked a treat.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 18:16:38
Re fitting... Use a smaller item than the bolt, like a 4/5mm drill bit or a short scriber type object, to put through each item and into the block, just to get it all lined up.

Then hold all the brackets still, remove the drill bit/scriber or whatever, then put the bolt in.
Thats worth remembering, ta!
Title: Re: The B bolt
Post by: albitz on 24 October 2013, 18:21:33
Not a problem for me,but being left handed does help alot   ;D

Tbh I didn't find it as difficult as I thought it was going to be.Im also left handed,so maybe that's why.
I see a new future career on the horizon - mobile B bolt fitter. ;D