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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: albitz on 30 October 2013, 19:19:31
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May need to get a car from South Croydon back to North Essex. I don't fancy towing it around the M25 with my A frame,as it isn't taxed or MOT,d and theres cameras and plod all over the place on there.
Car weighs around 1200kgs so that on a trailer would, afaik, be well over the weight limit for my Omega to tow ? Also doubtful whether they would allow me to take it through the Dartford tunnel with the A frame ? So -it looks like a trailer with van or similar is the only option ?
Anyone with a magic wand - thanks in advance. ;D
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if you were here I could help.. ;D
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Jump on a plane then. :y ;D
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Jump on a plane then. :y ;D
ok .. prepare my bed ;D
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Bed ?!! - floor of the shed more like. ;D
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A 500kg trailer would see you within the Omega towing limit :y
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If I bought a car/bike/pair of shoes, I'd make sure I knew how I was getting it home first.
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A 500kg trailer would see you within the Omega towing limit :y
Excellent.Thanks Al.Will look into one of those then. :y
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If I bought a car/bike/pair of shoes, I'd make sure I knew how I was getting it home first.
Havent bought it yet.Want to though before someone else does. ;)
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If I bought a car/bike/pair of shoes, I'd make sure I knew how I was getting it home first.
Havent bought it yet.Want to though before someone else does. ;)
Tell him you want it delivered.
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He is a private seller who doesn't have that option.
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He is a private seller who doesn't have that option.
Tell him to break it and post it.
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Your a real helpful fracker you know. Where would I be without you. ;D
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Bed ?!! - floor of the shed more like. ;D
:P ;D
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Put it on ya A-frame remove towed cars plates,put light board with towing cars number plate on. The towed car is now a trailer. Dosnt need a test or owt. :y
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My understanding of the legal position is that its still a car,and needs to be road legal if the wheels are on the road. :-\
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Put it on ya A-frame remove towed cars plates,put light board with towing cars number plate on. The towed car is now a trailer. Dosnt need a test or owt. :y
Are you sure? I wouldn't want Albs to get into trouble..... ::)
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Nope its being towed,its connected to the towing car.
A car has to be legal if its being "driven under its own power"
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Hotel21 to general chat please. ;D
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Thought A Framing was no longer legal for towing 'Off The Road Cars'. breakdown or recovery only now?
Do have a mate with a VW Transporter Albs, but not spoken to him for a year or so, do you want me to ask the question?
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Towed many a car,van never had a problem.
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If you are worried then contact your lokal nick and ask to speak to somebody in traffic. :y
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We have been here before, with a rope / rigid bar the car must be legal and insured, but I am not sure about a fixed A Frame........... :-\ :-\
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Thought A Framing was no longer legal for towing 'Off The Road Cars'. breakdown or recovery only now?
Do have a mate with a VW Transporter Albs, but not spoken to him for a year or so, do you want me to ask the question?
Yes please mate if you don't mind. :y
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Towed many a car,van never had a problem.
Me too,but not half way around the M25.If your not legal a camera or similar is more than likely going to nab you there. ;)
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I'm with Grif here.
Assuming the car has 4 legal tyres, no sharp edges and is reasonably clean, you wont get a tug.
Provided you have a trailer board, all functioning lights and your Number Plate displayed at the rear, why would anyone question it?
Just stay below 90MPH! ;D
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If you are worried then contact your lokal nick and ask to speak to somebody in traffic. :y
Any time Ive tried that previously they invariably knew less than I did. Usually goe more accurate info on here ime. :y
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Call VOSA, they will give you the right answers! :y
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If you are worried then contact your lokal nick and ask to speak to somebody in traffic. :y
They won't know either .... been there & done that.
Some places are adamant that it's legal, others are as adamant it's not. On the occasions I've towed a car on an A frame, I've taped over the number plates & added a trailer board to the back of it.
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Next question - If I did tow it on the A frame, are they going to let me take it through the Dartford tunnel ?
Might hve to ring and ask them.
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Call VOSA, they will give you the right answers! :y
vosa use different rules. Try arguing lighting laws with a wheel tapper,then when plod turn up and say "drivers right mate" they get upset A lot. ;D
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Next question - If I did tow it on the A frame, are they going to let me take it through the Dartford tunnel ?
Might hve to ring and ask them.
don't use the tunnel just take the ferry.
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That could work. :y
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with either a aframe or dolly you cant tow over 750 kg unless it has brakes.
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Ok so you drive from yours to London. Pick the car up, drive to Dover. Ferry to french france. Drive to flemish flanders, Ferry to Felixstowe and then home... nice day out :y
Oh, wait a minute... did you mean the Woolwich ferry ::)
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May need to get a car from South Croydon back to North Essex. I don't fancy towing it around the M25 with my A frame,as it isn't taxed or MOT,d and theres cameras and plod all over the place on there.
Car weighs around 1200kgs so that on a trailer would, afaik, be well over the weight limit for my Omega to tow ? Also doubtful whether they would allow me to take it through the Dartford tunnel with the A frame ? So -it looks like a trailer with van or similar is the only option ?
Anyone with a magic wand - thanks in advance. ;D
If you don't want to try the tunnel then you could go clockwise round the M25 ::)
Alternatively travel on Sunday (to avoid the congestion charge). Go straight up the A23 through Streatham (try not stop....) past Waterloo station, over the Thames, through Camden and then up the A1 until you get to the M25 again.
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It's about time someone got round to inventing teleportation really. :-\
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It's about time someone got round to inventing teleportation really. :-\
He wouldn't need the car then, cave dweller. ;D
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It's about time someone got round to inventing teleportation really. :-\
He wouldn't need the car then, cave dweller. ;D
Cars would just be for fun as I can't see much fun in being teleported :-\ , and I'd always worry that a fly might slip in the machine with me.... :-\ ::) ;)
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It's about time someone got round to inventing teleportation really. :-\
He wouldn't need the car then, cave dweller. ;D
Cars would just be for fun as I can't see much fun in being teleported :-\ , and I'd always worry that a fly might slip in the machine with me.... :-\ ::) ;)
Stop now please or, I promise, this will get silly.
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You? Silly? Nah! :D ;D
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and I'd always worry that a fly might slip in the machine with me.... :-\ ::) ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Albitz dont know if this helps but there is a firm in Essex who hire out transporters transit size .used them the other week to collect a car from Scotland and take back to Essex they charge £100. per day the vans come with all the straps etc going to use them again soon if you are interested will sort out there number if you want.
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Might be worth a look thanks. :y
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Might be worth a look thanks. :y
think the guys name is lee phone number is 07702 468729 or 01621 814315
they charged me £98. a day with £100. dept seem to like paypal and cash only problem I had with them was only 250 miles a day included arfter that 9p a mile extra but you should be ok with that if doing Essex to Croydon the van was in good condition and pulled pretty good even when loaded easy to load came with a winch so non starter not a problem starting to sound like there pa lol. think they advertise on the bay but not sure.
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Where abouts in North Essex are you?
I hired a trailer from Westbroom Engineering (01206 576 959) just outside Colchester on the West Mersea side.
They wanted £60 for the day, but as I only had it for 4 hours they only charged me £30
I picked it up, stuck my Signum on it and towed it behind my Omega with no problems at all. Think from memory the Signum is 1500kgish
There is another firm just outside Billericay that also hire trailers for the day for £50. Have used them, they are very good also
Both are tilt bed and both came with straps. Only the Barwell one had a winch
To be honest its your best safest bet
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and from personal experience (I know you should not do it but there you do), you can take an omega well up to the towing limit = bout 1.7T, probably closer to 2T and it'll tow fine.
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Im 10 miles from Colchester so will try the Mersea option I think. :y
I have towed an Omega with my Omega (lots of them actually) on my A frame and they are capable of doing it,although I they get a bit of an uncontrollable wander if when you get to around 60mph (an elite with s/l may be better in that respect I suppose).
Im not worried about the towing .Its the combination of the car not being taxed/ Mot,d and having to drag it half way round the M25 or through central London that's the worry.
The car weighs no more than 1200 kgs so I think I will probably hire a trailer and tow it that way.
Thanks for all the replies. Excellent help from OOF,as usual. :y
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Yep, Place local to me does trailers for £30 a day. Get a reasonably light one and you'll be well inside the towing limits and 100% legal.
Tow it on an A frame and you are not legal from whatever aspect it's viewed.
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Im 10 miles from Colchester so will try the Mersea option I think. :y
I have towed an Omega with my Omega (lots of them actually) on my A frame and they are capable of doing it,although I they get a bit of an uncontrollable wander if when you get to around 60mph (an elite with s/l may be better in that respect I suppose).
Im not worried about the towing .Its the combination of the car not being taxed/ Mot,d and having to drag it half way round the M25 or through central London that's the worry.
The car weighs no more than 1200 kgs so I think I will probably hire a trailer and tow it that way.
Thanks for all the replies. Excellent help from OOF,as usual. :y
You're welcome Albs :y
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Yeah,your replies were particularily helpful and informative. :y
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Yeah,your replies were particularily helpful and informative. :y
As always........ ;) :y :y
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Well, mission accomplished. Hired a trailer hich weighed under 500kgs and went down o roydon today and collected the car.
The 2.5 engine does tend to struggle when its pulling almost twice the usual weight,but its all done and dusted now.
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Well, mission accomplished. Hired a trailer hich weighed under 500kgs and went down o roydon today and collected the car.
The 2.5 engine does tend to struggle when its pulling almost twice the usual weight,but its all done and dusted now.
Roydon is in Hertfordshire, thought you were going to Croydon, at least I got close'ish on my visit to you, ;D
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I think the keyboard on this laptop is f(r)acked.Its like Norman Colliers microphone. ;D
It was indeed Croydon. I hired a trailer in the end from Phillips trailers at East Bergholt. £40 for the day,and a lovely old fella to do business with.
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Result in the end then.................... ;) ;) :y
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Didn't fancy Belgian France then ::)
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Alb, I towed James' Hearse back to mine in Kent from his regal palace... Didn't really give the law side of things a second thought tbh, A-frame on, hitched up and off we went! Mind you that was over the QE2 bridge! I had no problems what-so-ever :y
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I came back through the Dartford tunnel and was surprised they charged me just £2 - the price for one car. I was expecting to ay more. :y
A horrible journey though.Over two hours of 50 mph on the left hand lane with the trucks,and having to concentrate very hard as emergency braking or manouvering doesn't bear thinking about with that lot hitched on the back.
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Didn't fancy Belgian France then ::)
Ive never fancied anything connected with Belgium or France. Im a bit racist in that respect Im afraid. ;D
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I came back through the Dartford tunnel and was surprised they charged me just £2 - the price for one car. I was expecting to ay more. :y
A horrible journey though.Over two hours of 50 mph on the left hand lane with the trucks,and having to concentrate very hard as emergency braking or manouvering doesn't bear thinking about with that lot hitched on the back.
With that successful rehearsal you can not turn into a pikey...... :y :y
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Its tempting Vamps. No tax to pay and Ive never seen a poor one. :y ;D
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Its tempting Vamps. No tax to pay and Ive never seen a poor one. :y ;D
I can rent you a Static...... :D :D :y
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Or,if I want to be a proper pikey, I could just steal it. ;D
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Or,if I want to be a proper pikey, I could just steal it. ;D
Please do, tis now off season, and it is well insured, do you want full details? :y :y tbh would be happy if it went and was never replaced, just dont tell swmbo........ :-X :-X
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Your a very naughty man Vamps. ;D ;D
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Bonfire night tonight isn't it? ::) :D ;D
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Your a very naughty man Vamps. ;D ;D
This is not the POOF site, please be more careful...... :D :D :D