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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: jay99 on 14 November 2013, 23:25:34
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Hello again
I took the car to Newcastle and back without a problem at all on saturday and the car was so comfortable and was running perfectly.
But I've been on the motorway again and when I'm at speed (60-80) the steering wheel seems to violently shake and wobble. This isn't noticeable when I'm driving around town but it is scary. This has never happened before.
Looking on google it says something about the brake disks being warped, but the brakes work fine, but one thing I've noticed though is that when I set off there does seem to be a whine coming from the brakes, a sort of screeching sound from cold, but I just assume that its the handbrake sticking.
Where is the first place I should start to look at, I do get tremendous knocking sounds when going over potholes or bumps but I put that down to the cars age.
But the steering wheel wobble is really worrying me now and I need to use the car on the motorway for open days.
Help!
Thank you
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Wishbone bushes fubar.
Rattle is most likely drop links. Although if the bushes are well gone, then the wishbone could be knocking on the subframe. Believe it or not.
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Just to add, warped discs cause judder whilst breaking, not cruising :y
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Wishbone bushes fubar.
Rattle is most likely drop links. Although if the bushes are well gone, then the wishbone could be knocking on the subframe. Believe it or not.
Should add some caution.... usually buggered wishbone bushes cause a random wobble. It's not usually quite so cirtian it will happen under a given speed or load. Bumps or steering movement can set it off, as basically, the wheel/hub/shock and wishbone are flapping about. That feeds back through the steering.
Can't hurt to check steering idler too.
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And track rod ends :)
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well it did pass its last mot with it it seems to have completely gone now.
-Advisory Notice issued
Rear both sides coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
Front both sides Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
Oil leak
Engine light on,offside front door strap insecure,under body and suspension slightly rusty.
How expensive is this to fix and what is involved?
Is it something that I can forget and is it safe to continue driving with it?
Chris says something about the wishbone knocking on the subframe, but what exactly is a wishbone? Is it part of the suspension?
Thanks for the quick help guys :)
*The MOT is in April by the way so if its not serious can I leave it until then?
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well it did pass its last mot with it it seems to have completely gone now.
-Advisory Notice issued
Rear both sides coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
Front both sides Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
Oil leak
Engine light on,offside front door strap insecure,under body and suspension slightly rusty.
How expensive is this to fix and what is involved?
Is it something that I can forget and is it safe to continue driving with it?
Chris says something about the wishbone knocking on the subframe, but what exactly is a wishbone? See Above Is it part of the suspension?
Thanks for the quick help guys :)
*The MOT is in April by the way so if its not serious can I leave it until then? Only if you really hate your tyres...
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-WISHBONE-SUSPENSION-ARMS-NEW-PAIR-/250214423910
Only £45 for the part. Any idea on the labour?
This car is giving me a massive headache! Is it safe for now to continue to drive with it until April when the MOT runs out? I think the car has come to the end of its functioning life and there are so many things wrong with it and with its low spec I don't think it would be worth continuing or saving it.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-WISHBONE-SUSPENSION-ARMS-NEW-PAIR-/250214423910
Only £45 for the part. Any idea on the labour?
This car is giving me a massive headache! Is it safe for now to continue to drive with it until April when the MOT runs out? I think the car has come to the end of its functioning life and there are so many things wrong with it and with its low spec I don't think it would be worth continuing or saving it.
Budget an hour per side, plus a full geometry set up at Wheels in Motion :y
Nothing on that list is worth scrapping it for :y
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Back to basics check if you have lost any balance weights, then wheels for security and are they true. :y
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Yep if the vibration is between 60 and 80 i'd say the wheels our out of balance.
Obviously the front wishbones / bushes need replacing according to the MOT as well :y
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Got to agree with Al on this one, if I thought about it every time something went wrong with my cars then there would be 4 more Omegas that would be up in the big Omega scrapyard in the sky.You don't indicate where you are in the UK,but there are members on here that undertake the type of repairs that you need to keep your car on the road. :y
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Got to agree with Al on this one, if I thought about it every time something went wrong with my cars then there would be 4 more Omegas that would be up in the big Omega scrapyard in the sky.You don't indicate where you are in the UK,but there are members on here that undertake the type of repairs that you need to keep your car on the road. :y
Oldham, Greater Manchester :y
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Why bother,just nick another car :D
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It's all in the description. A wobble is very different to a vibration. Plus if an mot tester has even noticed a bush failed, it's guaranteed the bush is absolutely bollarded.
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Hi
Just a couple of suggestions
In the past i have had the same due to over heating sticky brakes on one side due to a semi-seized caliper. this would be obvious by feeling for excessive heat from any one wheel when stopped after the incident.
Have you lost of one of the front wheels a large wheel balancing weight. this can cause some real strong wobbling depending on weight lost.
As for banging when going over bumps i would check wishbone bushes or ball joints
Jay
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Hi
Just a couple of suggestions
In the past i have had the same due to over heating sticky brakes on one side due to a semi-seized caliper. this would be obvious by feeling for excessive heat from any one wheel when stopped after the incident.
Have you lost of one of the front wheels a large wheel balancing weight. this can cause some real strong wobbling depending on weight lost.
As for banging when going over bumps i would check wishbone bushes or ball joints
this would be pointing to drop links if you ask me, all of these components are easily repaired by a good independent, i would suggest using lemforders replacement parts they have lasted well on mine. to scrap a car for what'S on that list would be wrong, for a couple of hundred you'd have trouble free motoring again, my omega has costed me pennies in the last two years with me doing 40k within that time.
Jay
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So I need 2 new wishbones, two new droplinks and just my luck have just found out that I need two front tyres as well because the inside of the tyres are completely worn out and only have 3 treads!!! I'm getting it all done as I have been under the car today and the wishbones are literally made of rust. I poked a hole one, I don't know how I've managed like this as this is so bad I could have been killed. Drop links look ok but for £10 you can't go wrong.
This:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-FRONT-SUSPENSION-WISHBONE-ARMS-ANTI-ROLL-BAR-DROP-LINKS-X-2-NEW-/121024767080?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item1c2da36468
For £60 you get free delivery and 2x wishbones and 2 Anti roll bars.
Is that all I need or do I need some sort of extra bolts/bushes or anything like that?
Not too bothered about tyres I can use the spare one and I have another spare 205/65/15 from another car.
Hopefully this is job done now and the car should be good for another year!!!
(I'm getting this all done now with all deliberate speed as I had a brown trouser moment on the third lane M65 today)
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Read the guide on fitting bones etc.
Oe type bushes MUST have the front wishbone bolt tightened wheels loaded/car at normal ride height. Or the bushes will fail early and you'll be back to square one!
Also after market bushes are something of a lottery re quality. If you go for those, be warned, but do let us know how they last, please. :y
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I always put oil inside the rubber dust cover of the ball joints of the wishbone and drop links as this makes them last a lot longer. a good 3 times longer for the sake of a little oil..
I use a syringe with oil in it and put it under the rubber to sit under and on the ball joint.... best for lubrication... as most have no grease these days.... they last too long...
Jay
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For the sake of a few pence , why not replace the anti roll bar bushes . Always overlooked and easy to fit . Causes rattling as well and replaced every set on an omega where they have been worn badly ..
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It wasn't on an omega - but I had awfull judder throught the steering on my Carlton for several years. I replaced everything at least once - sometimes twice. Shocks, springs, top mounts, wishbones, trackrods, rollbar, droplinks, subframe, tyres, wheels, bearings, brake disks, calipers, pads.
It turned out to be the centre tie bar - that long bar that runs under the sump from the steering arm to the steering idler. Symptoms were that if you hit a pothole (or similar) the steerring would vibrate as if the front tyres were massively out of balance, or you had brake disks warped to factor 9. The only way to stop the vibration was a light application of brakes which would then damp down and stop the vibration till the next pot hole.
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Just an update for those who are interested, it was actually the track rod thing that was gone and not the wishbone, although they are very rusty, it dosent affect its strength and its fine which saved money. I got two new front winter tyres, got the wiper linkage repaired and got an oil leak stopped.
Took the car out, no wobble at all, the knocking has become quieter and the wheel feels so much lighter, I can spin it using one hand now. Feels like a new car.
All courtesy of my dad. Very pleased :D.
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Good job. On your part anyway. ;D
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