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Title: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 18 November 2013, 16:57:31
Ok, we are all encouraged to use these compact fluorescent light bulbs .......

You know the ones, that use only a little electricity & last for ages  :-X

On the downside, they are now quite a bit more expensive than they were when they were being subsidised and are apparently harmful to the environment.

I had one fail a few days ago, well outside any guarantee as it was about 18 months old - so no chance of finding the receipt!

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself (so no arguement as to where it came from) - so I contacted their customer services people and quoted the multitude of numbers printed on the bulb. I got a result as they have provided me with a voucher - its not massive compensation, but will cover the cost of a replacement bulb and fuel to my nearest Homebase store.

So, there you go, a happy ending ......
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: AndyRoid on 18 November 2013, 17:43:38

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself
Cheap Chinese shit = low life expectancy.

Buy branded (Philips, Osram, Sylvania, etc) if you want it to last.
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 18 November 2013, 17:49:19
Ok, we are all encouraged to use these compact fluorescent light bulbs .......

You know the ones, that use only a little electricity & last for ages  :-X

On the downside, they are now quite a bit more expensive than they were when they were being subsidised and are apparently harmful to the environment.

I had one fail a few days ago, well outside any guarantee as it was about 18 months old - so no chance of finding the receipt!

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself (so no arguement as to where it came from) - so I contacted their customer services people and quoted the multitude of numbers printed on the bulb. I got a result as they have provided me with a voucher - its not massive compensation, but will cover the cost of a replacement bulb and fuel to my nearest Homebase store.

So, there you go, a happy ending ......

Result   :y
Think ive got loads of the mini spirals (i found them the brightest and 'warmed' up the fastest) in the cupboard, i used to clean Tesco's out of them, when they were 25p each.

Tho' havent had one 'blow'  in a long time (i cannot remember when i last changed one)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 November 2013, 17:50:59
Ok, we are all encouraged to use these compact fluorescent light bulbs .......

You know the ones, that use only a little electricity & last for ages  :-X

On the downside, they are now quite a bit more expensive than they were when they were being subsidised and are apparently harmful to the environment.

I had one fail a few days ago, well outside any guarantee as it was about 18 months old - so no chance of finding the receipt!

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself (so no arguement as to where it came from) - so I contacted their customer services people and quoted the multitude of numbers printed on the bulb. I got a result as they have provided me with a voucher - its not massive compensation, but will cover the cost of a replacement bulb and fuel to my nearest Homebase store.

So, there you go, a happy ending ......


I'm glad that Homebase saw the light. ::) ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 18 November 2013, 17:58:47
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Varche on 18 November 2013, 18:00:48
These new low energy bulbs are one of my pet hates.

Oh to go back to the "good old days" when if a bulb went you had a suitable spare in the cupboard. Now (in Spain) you have devices with a multitude of variety. E14 E27, G10, X50, Gti,RS and so on. When one goes you go to the shops and they haven't got anything like the one you want. So as you have a pair of (e.g. bedside lamps) you buy two and put the other working bulb to one side. It will never get used. We have 8 outside lights and I long ago gave up trying to get matching replacement lamps(white light, cream light, off white).  One internal fitting had two bulbs and one went three weeks after install. Went back to the shop and had to wait a fortnight before they got anymore of "that" bulb in stock. they did replace it free though.And before you ask none are from a pound shop only reputable shops. I think it is a wonder of the Marketing folk of the modern age. 10 year guarantee. Some bulbs are nearly£10. Who keeps receipts to match lights? No one

Having said all that, well done LincsRobert getting a refund.  :y
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 18 November 2013, 18:05:19
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

Says the bloke, who posted asking how to get shit off a mattress  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 November 2013, 18:41:39
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

With the crap you feed him it will probably be a runny one.... ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: plym ian on 18 November 2013, 18:56:54
Led bulbs are the way forward  :y :y

You get a real good light from them for only about 3w energy equivilant to a 35w gu10 and don't blow as much :)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 18 November 2013, 19:08:57
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

Says the bloke, who posted asking how to get shit off a mattress  ::) ;D
That was a valid technical question, which received lots of helpful replies  :P
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 18 November 2013, 19:21:36
Ok, we are all encouraged to use these compact fluorescent light bulbs .......

You know the ones, that use only a little electricity & last for ages  :-X

On the downside, they are now quite a bit more expensive than they were when they were being subsidised and are apparently harmful to the environment.

I had one fail a few days ago, well outside any guarantee as it was about 18 months old - so no chance of finding the receipt!

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself (so no arguement as to where it came from) - so I contacted their customer services people and quoted the multitude of numbers printed on the bulb. I got a result as they have provided me with a voucher - its not massive compensation, but will cover the cost of a replacement bulb and fuel to my nearest Homebase store.

So, there you go, a happy ending ......


I'm glad that Homebase saw the light. ::) ::) ::) :)

 ::)  :y
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: henryd on 18 November 2013, 19:48:18
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

Says the bloke, who posted asking how to get shit off a mattress  ::) ;D
That was a valid technical question, which received lots of helpful replies  :P

And there was no piss taking at all was there ::) ;)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: PhilRich on 18 November 2013, 19:58:00
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

Says the bloke, who posted asking how to get shit off a mattress  ::) ;D
That was a valid technical question, which received lots of helpful replies  :P

And there was no piss taking at all was there ::) ;)
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As if anyone here would stoop so low! :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: omegod on 18 November 2013, 20:30:45
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 18 November 2013, 20:34:04
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 November 2013, 20:39:53
Led bulbs are the way forward  :y :y

You get a real good light from them for only about 3w energy equivilant to a 35w gu10 and don't blow as much :)

Not quite yet, the tech is a few years off being useful and giving a good wide spectrum of light output
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: omegod on 18 November 2013, 21:36:38
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P

That's actually a bit scary as I just signed up :o ;D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 18 November 2013, 21:40:00
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P

That's actually a bit scary as I just signed up :o ;D
I know. I've been a member for years. And ford, Chevrolet, merc etc. When there's no one to annoy on here........ ;D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Vamps on 18 November 2013, 21:54:23
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;D

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P

That's actually a bit scary as I just signed up :o ;D
I know. I've been a member for years. And ford, Chevrolet, merc etc. When there's no one to annoy on here........ ;D

So why not go an annoy someone else then?......... :P :D :D
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 18 November 2013, 21:58:41
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;Dy

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P

That's actually a bit scary as I just signed up :o ;D
I know. I've been a member for years. And ford, Chevrolet, merc etc. When there's no one to annoy on here........ ;D

So why not go an annoy someone else then?......... :P :D :D
Cause I'm busy annoying on here. ::)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Vamps on 18 November 2013, 22:15:33
A new low for the forum. Posting when a light bulb goes. ;D ;D

I'll let you all know if my dog has a shit tomorrow  ;Dy

No need to, but do update us on it's fleas you boring git ::) ;)
It was of interest to dog owners and already has more replies than most of you car posts get. ;D
Now piss of to your Hyundai forum. :P

That's actually a bit scary as I just signed up :o ;D
I know. I've been a member for years. And ford, Chevrolet, merc etc. When there's no one to annoy on here........ ;D

So why not go an annoy someone else then?......... :P :D :D
Cause I'm busy annoying on here. ::)

That's cos they don't love you like we do........ :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 18 November 2013, 22:20:33
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Vamps on 18 November 2013, 22:27:47
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........

What are you saying about General Chat? if that is what you think why are you here...... :o :o
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 18 November 2013, 22:35:20
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........

What are you saying about General Chat? if that is what you think why are you here...... :o :o

Isn't it supposed to be about a specific subject as by the OP?

It seems to me that a significant % of posts in this section then get hijacked by people talking shite ........

Sorry - just speaking based on what I see .........
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: omegod on 18 November 2013, 22:39:58
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........

What are you saying about General Chat? if that is what you think why are you here...... :o :o

Isn't it supposed to be about a specific subject as by the OP?

It seems to me that a significant % of posts in this section then get hijacked by people talking shite ........

Sorry - just speaking based on what I see .........

I found the thread illuminating!
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Vamps on 18 November 2013, 22:43:13
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........

What are you saying about General Chat? if that is what you think why are you here...... :o :o

Isn't it supposed to be about a specific subject as by the OP?

It seems to me that a significant % of posts in this section then get hijacked by people talking shite ........

Sorry - just speaking based on what I see .........

OK, I can't do the multi quote bit so assuming you 3 points I will respond as follows:-

1. Yes, but this if OOF
2. Yes, but this is OOF, this is General Chat and the majority of people regularly on are the ones trying to keep it going, this may mean some banter or abuse of those who we are comfortable to abuse - right or wrong...... :-\ :-\
3. Your post is ambiguous, I read it as General Chat is shite...... :-[
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 18 November 2013, 22:47:28
Ok, we are all encouraged to use these compact fluorescent light bulbs .......

You know the ones, that use only a little electricity & last for ages  :-X

On the downside, they are now quite a bit more expensive than they were when they were being subsidised and are apparently harmful to the environment.

I had one fail a few days ago, well outside any guarantee as it was about 18 months old - so no chance of finding the receipt!

Anyway, it was branded Homebase on the bulb itself (so no arguement as to where it came from) - so I contacted their customer services people and quoted the multitude of numbers printed on the bulb. I got a result as they have provided me with a voucher - its not massive compensation, but will cover the cost of a replacement bulb and fuel to my nearest Homebase store.

So, there you go, a happy ending ......
and have you noticed how much they cost now got them last year from asda for a quid ,now 3.15 each  :( :(
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: omega3000 on 18 November 2013, 22:57:38
Quote
and have you noticed how much they cost now got them last year from asda for a quid ,now 3.15 each  :( :(


 :o

I was just thinking of getting a few more of these energy saving bulbs , cant remember where i got my last few from but ive had them 5 yrs ... maybe asda . Need to get a few more  :)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: MR MISTER on 19 November 2013, 07:51:04
Am I missing something here?

Since when has low energy bulbs had anything to do with this shite?

What we need under GD is a "Gobshite" section, lets see, the moderators can be stemo, vamps & opti .........

What are you saying about General Chat? if that is what you think why are you here...... :o :o

Isn't it supposed to be about a specific subject as by the OP?

It seems to me that a significant % of posts in this section then get hijacked by people talking shite ........

Sorry - just speaking based on what I see .........

OK, I can't do the multi quote bit so assuming you 3 points I will respond as follows:-

1. Yes, but this if OOF
2. Yes, but this is OOF, this is General Chat and the majority of people regularly on are the ones trying to keep it going, this may mean some banter or abuse of those who we are comfortable to abuse - right or wrong...... :-\ :-\
3. Your post is ambiguous, I read it as General Chat is shite...... :-[
Of course it is...mostly. But most people know and accept this. Somewhere amongst all the piss taking and bs, there is usually genuine opinion and helpful input. If I post up a question or piece of info, I am quite disappointed if someone doesn't call me stupid or question my parentage. ;D

Oh...and I don't want Vamps or Opti as co-admins, thank you. ::)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: zirk on 19 November 2013, 14:31:23
I bought a crap load from Tesco's about 15 years ago when they where doing a special green deal on them, think they worked out at about 30p each, all still going strong except the ones I fitted to lights that had dimmers on them, although they lasted a fair while before giving up the ghost.  :y   
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 November 2013, 14:59:26
I bought a crap load from Tesco's about 15 years ago when they where doing a special green deal on them, think they worked out at about 30p each, all still going strong except the ones I fitted to lights that had dimmers on them, although they lasted a fair while before giving up the ghost.  :y

You did better than me then, I bought a CFL which was specificaly designed for use with dimmers (Megaman), I had it on apprax half brightness and after an hour I heard a buzzing noise and bang, it blew. Took it back and had it replaced and the same happened again!
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 November 2013, 15:15:23
If Megaman stuff is failing that quickly it doesn't bode well for the cheap brands. ::) I replaced some GU10 halogen lights in the kitchen with Megaman low energy jobs and I think one failed pretty early on. The rest have lasted for probably 5 or 6 years, although I've noticed they now take an age to reach full brightness. I have some B&Q "own brands" alongside them, so we'll see how they compare.

There seems to be a bit of a bathtub curve with these. You get quite a lot of early failures, and those which survive seem to do well if they are a known brand.

I've got an outside light on a dawn-to-dusk switch with a 9W low energy bulb in, again a Megaman, I believe. I've only just had to change the bulb, and I reckon it'd been in there 8 years or so. It's on all night, so probably averages around 10-12 hours a day. That's a lot of hours.

When used within the house, though, I reckon they don't last any better than normal light bulbs.

I guess the answer is to leave them on (which makes them less energy saving, but probably not a bad idea given how long some of them take to reach a decent brightness).

The other thing that might be a factor is that the electronics is built down to a price, and gets really hot, especially in a light fitting. Most seem to fail at startup, although I've had a few that get slow to start and then start flickering. I wouldn't mind betting that on most the electronics gives up the ghost before the tube has reached the end of its' life.

Hopefully, these daft things will turn out to be a temporary measure before LED lighting gets more usable, but the latter has got some way to go before I'll be using it as I find the quality of light from LED devices about on a par with candles at the moment.  ;)
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Varche on 19 November 2013, 16:08:25
I was in a Spanish supermarket the other day looking for a bulb. A chap was stocktaking and knocked about thirty bulbs off the rack onto the floor. That may well be thirty premature failures for some suckers. :o
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 19 November 2013, 18:09:42
I'm thinking about getting 4 of these....

 http://www.ledhut.co.uk/spot-lights/mr16-led-bulbs/mr16-smd-led-20-pice-best-internet-price.html

to replace the 4 x 50w 12v halogen's in my kitchen..... :-\
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: AndyRoid on 19 November 2013, 18:27:25
The other thing that might be a factor is that the electronics is built down to a price

I think (actually, I believe) you have hit the nail on the head Kevin, cheap components = shite lifespan......end of IMHO.
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 19 November 2013, 18:43:16
The other thing that might be a factor is that the electronics is built down to a price

I think (actually, I believe) you have hit the nail on the head Kevin, cheap components = shite lifespan......end of IMHO.

I totally agree  :y I dont mind buying 'store' branded kit....but dont it expect it to last long.....unless i know who made it...
For example, my notebook is Advent....Intel motherboard and Intel processor .... cheapish to buy at the time but as its mostly Intel  :y
Title: Re: Failure of low energy light-bulb .........
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 November 2013, 21:02:50
The other thing that might be a factor is that the electronics is built down to a price

I think (actually, I believe) you have hit the nail on the head Kevin, cheap components = shite lifespan......end of IMHO.

Yep, like my gas boiler with 85C rated cheap chinese electrolytics mounted on a PCB a few inches below the burner housing. ::) Needless to say, it has 105C Panasonics in now, and actually works properly. ::)

So, for want of a few pence saved on the electronics (which ought to last practically forever) we are throwing away the nasty, polluting part of the device unnecessarily. >:(