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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: plym ian on 29 November 2013, 13:22:43
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Really annoys me that my girls junior school can't call a Christmas fair just that has to be called a winter fair >:(
I asked head teacher why to which she replied 'cause it offends certain cultures' well my blood started to boil. She then told me that they aren't having a Christmas play ie nativity but another cultural play set in Africa. Well I then lost the plot and I must of sounded like the biggest racist going!
I don't mind different cultures going to school and learning about our culture and customs but when we have to change our cultures and beliefs that's when I think it's totally wrong.
Rant over sorry :)
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IMO, there is no need to appologise >:(
Its accepted that there other cultures in the uk, but we should not, indeed, must not change our culture or traditions for anyone.
Like you....it makes my blood boil. And the best bit is, that 99% of those who are supposed to be offended, are not. In fact they realise that trying to change these things, only increase anger/racism and non acceptance of other cultures
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Political correctness gone mad :-X
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A good test would be to ask " in the countries of the ethic minorities being pampered to, would they reciprocate?" I have my doubts.
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The country is scared of offending the most important people :-X
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Put her EMail address on here and she will find out what CORRECTNESS is... STUPID BLOODY COW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You could always inform the Daily Mail :y :y
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Put her EMail address on here and she will find out what CORRECTNESS is... STUPID BLOODY COW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You could always inform the Daily Mail :y :y
It's probably not her fault personally Cleggy, but directives from above. ::)
That said its wrong. I very much doubt that they would alter Eid al Adha in Pakistan or Indonesia or Diwali in India, for fear of upsetting other religious groups in those countries. ::)
Why do these people think that minority groups get offended by Christmas anyway? :-\
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I don't see the problem with offending people. Happens to me often enough, both giving and, no doubt, receiving. ;)
Of course, if you aren't able to handle being offended occasionally, there's a solution. They call it a boat. :y
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Why do these people think that minority groups get offended by Christmas anyway? :-\
Indeed. Surely if you are in a country where your religion/culture/whatever is not the majority one, you accept how they do it instead instead of getting offended? If you don't, refer to the aforementioned boat. :y
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You lot are such a bunch of namby pamby liberals.
Shoot the head teacher for being so ridiculous. Problem solved.
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Political Correctness I personally find very, very, offensive and that is why it makes my blood boil. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Personally, I would withdraw my child from school for the day in such circumstances on the grounds that this is a christian country, with the CofE our official religion and Christmas is a christian religious festival.
If people who move to this country don't find our way of life acceptable then they should move to a country that is more agreeable. But in reality most do find it very agreeable and aren't offended, it is only in the minds of Government employed left wing Common Purpose subversives and their ilk, who want to brainwash the next generation.
[rant off]
I don't know about other people but I'm glad I'm leaving this country as me and the EU / Westminster socialism constantly make me very angry. The United Kingdom and me are no longer compatible, sad but true. :( :( :( :( :(
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You lot are such a bunch of namby pamby liberals.
Shoot the head teacher for being so ridiculous. Problem solved.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The company i work for,did some logo floor mats for force india f1 team.Dropped them off 4 weeks ago,went back week after to exchange for clean,i was told they cant be used,because they had the indian flag on them,and it was disrespectful to walk over them.
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Really annoys me that my girls junior school can't call a Christmas fair just that has to be called a winter fair >:(
I asked head teacher why to which she replied 'cause it offends certain cultures' well my blood started to boil. She then told me that they aren't having a Christmas play ie nativity but another cultural play set in Africa. Well I then lost the plot and I must of sounded like the biggest racist going!
I don't mind different cultures going to school and learning about our culture and customs but when we have to change our cultures and beliefs that's when I think it's totally wrong.
Rant over sorry :)
you only said what a lot of people think . if they want to live here they should follow the culture of this country. well thats what i think :y
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if they dont like xmas tell them to go home ;D
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You lot are such a bunch of namby pamby liberals.
Shoot the head teacher for being so ridiculous. Problem solved.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In front of her family :y :y ;D ;D ;D
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head teacher
opps me, I'm at it now. HEADMISTRESS FFS, not Head Teacher. She's a woman with tits and a womans arse (presumably), clearly defining her as a woman, not a man >:(
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Possibly the worst case of this type of madness I have heard of was a school in Stoke a while back. They sent a letter to parents informing them that pupils were being taken on a trip to a Islamic workshop at Stafford university - fair enough.
Then went on to say that any pupils who did not attend the trip would have it logged on their file as a racial discrimination,and it would remain there permanently and follow them throughout their school career. Any absences would be investigated and only sanctioned by a sickness note signed by a doctor.
Pure unadultereated Stalinism. >:( >:(
Once the press got hold of the letter,it was of course with drawn. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511841/Children-8-racist-miss-Islam-trip-Schools-threatening-letter-parents-met-outrage.html
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You lot are such a bunch of namby pamby liberals.
Shoot the head teacher for being so ridiculous. Problem solved.
Perhaps we need a 'Hand Wringing' section then? ::)
and while we're at it, we could have a 'Neck Wringing' section for the hard core!! ;D
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
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Possibly the worst case of this type of madness I have heard of was a school in Stoke a while back. They sent a letter to parents informing them that pupils were being taken on a trip to a Islamic workshop at Stafford university - fair enough.
Then went on to say that any pupils who did not attend the trip would have it logged on their file as a racial discrimination,and it would remain there permanently and follow them throughout their school career. Any absences would be investigated and only sanctioned by a sickness note signed by a doctor.
Pure unadultereated Stalinism. >:( >:(
Once the press got hold of the letter,it was of course with drawn. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2511841/Children-8-racist-miss-Islam-trip-Schools-threatening-letter-parents-met-outrage.html
I live for the day that I get a letter along those lines. My outrage would know no bounds and , by Christ, I would relish letting them know.
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ironically the 3 Wise Men probably were Muslims!! ;D ;D ;D
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ironically the 3 Wise Men probably were Muslims!! ;D ;D ;D
Errrrr..no. They were English, a brum a cockney and a scouser, I did it at Sunday school.
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ironically the 3 Wise Men probably were Muslims!! ;D ;D ;D
Errrrr..no. They were English, a brum a cockney and a scouser, I did it at Sunday school.
As said.... ;)
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ironically the 3 Wise Men probably were Muslims!! ;D ;D ;D
Errrrr..no. They were English, a brum a cockney and a scouser, I did it at Sunday school.
One in a Taxi, one in a Car, one on a Scooter blowing his hooter going to the local bar :y
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At wifey's school there are students of all colours and religious persuasions, she will be having a Christmas fayre, and a play, complete with baby Jesus and angels galore.
With three Muslims Wise Men paying tribute ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ironically the 3 Wise Men probably were Muslims!! ;D ;D ;D
Errrrr..no. They were English, a brum a cockney and a scouser, I did it at Sunday school.
not true at all >:( >:( >:( >:(
the scouser would have had it away with the gold ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What I don't understand is this.....I go to college with two Muslim lads and one acting Christian lad. At no point have the two Muslim lads ever said ''can you take your chain off with your cross on as it offends me''.
Why is it that these school teachers think Christianity would offend any other religion?
Not that any of it bothers me of course cos all religion is 'dangle berries' ;D (in my opinion of course and I promise not to make my views known in public... just in case there's any communist teachers reading this ;D
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Having a war over religion is like having a fight over who has the best imaginary friend - Yassar Arafat. :)
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What I don't understand is this.....I go to college with two Muslim lads and one acting Christian lad. At no point have the two Muslim lads ever said ''can you take your chain off with your cross on as it offends me''.
Why is it that these school teachers think Christianity would offend any other religion?
Not that any of it bothers me of course cos all religion is 'dangle berries' ;D (in my opinion of course and I promise not to make my views known in public... just in case there's any communist teachers reading this ;D
And therein lies the crux of the matter!
In almost every case, it is not the Foreigners' among us who complain of being offended, rather it is the Establishment Liberal Elite in positions of power & responsibility who pander to their own perceived idea of what might offend people of other Faiths etc and then shove their flawed perceptions down our throats and try to make us change the Laws and Customs so hard fought for and won with the sweat, blood and tears of our Forebears. The worst of these can be found inhabiting the corridors of every Town Hall in the land and enforcing their views with a fanatical zeal >:(
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one of the best lines i ever heard was from Mike Reid, what's Salman Rushdie new book called = Buddha's's a self-abuser dont know why still cracks me up
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change the self-abuser for w*nk*r
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What I don't understand is this.....I go to college with two Muslim lads and one acting Christian lad. At no point have the two Muslim lads ever said ''can you take your chain off with your cross on as it offends me''.
Why is it that these school teachers think Christianity would offend any other religion?
Not that any of it bothers me of course cos all religion is 'dangle berries' ;D (in my opinion of course and I promise not to make my views known in public... just in case there's any communist teachers reading this ;D
And therein lies the crux of the matter!
In almost every case, it is not the Foreigners' among us who complain of being offended, rather it is the Establishment Liberal Elite in positions of power & responsibility who pander to their own perceived idea of what might offend people of other Faiths etc and then shove their flawed perceptions down our throats and try to make us change the Laws and Customs so hard fought for and won with the sweat, blood and tears of our Forebears. The worst of these can be found inhabiting the corridors of every Town Hall in the land and enforcing their views with a fanatical zeal >:(
Not sure I could have put it any better at all :y :y :y
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If it was a school my kids attended I would kick up a stink by getting other parents involved, complaining to the School Governors, Education Authority, Local Councillor, MP and the press both local and National. :y Doesn't take long to send an EMail or two :y
Then again just shoot the bitch ;) or post a black turd through her letter box ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
People like her are a cause of racial tension and are allowed to teach our children >:( >:(
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look if i was called a cracker or snow drift i would laugh because its funny i dont agree with racism but i think that people of mixed race do play the card and without being funny the country hands it to them on a plate. like you were told at school sticks and stones and all that, who care's its just word's
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its like the saying..the token black man,last years nativity and at my kids school and mary was a black girl to which doesn't bother me but I believe the school daren't have a white mary for fear of upsetting the black minority which to me points to where the racism is.they go on about racism and equal rights but its always the ethnic minority that complains and shouts racist.its very multi racial the school and in all I think everyone rubs along alright and when Christian celebrations happen it seems everyone joins in and ive never heard of any probs but I do think England rolls over to have its belly tickled rather than stand up the claim and say 'dangle berries' when in rome
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You know what I just can't get? First rule - my opinion- if you're a guest, act like a guest.
I used to work in Norway 10 years ago for a few months and can't tell what an "ichy" feeling it was - no one of natives said anything offendive to me ever, neither were there any issues with them or me/us, but I was just very carefull about what I said, how I acted and always trying to blend in - not being offendive to natives in any way. Being blonde and blue eyed was perfect for me not to be too much "spoted", after all I was there, taking away work and money some of the natives could get, if you know what I mean.
I was aware of that all the time I spent there.
Just can't get those incomers of yours or here in my country, expecting us to obay their wishes, their rules.....it's retarded, really. It won't be long untill they demand their own country inside yours and of course you'll be "the biggest" reason for that because you don't take them as they are....
If you're a guest, act like a guest and be happy you're allowed to stay there. Really can't get it >:(
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You know what I just can't get? First rule - my opinion- if you're a guest, act like a guest.
I used to work in Norway 10 years ago for a few months and can't tell what an "ichy" feeling it was - no one of natives said anything offendive to me ever, neither were there any issues with them or me/us, but I was just very carefull about what I said, how I acted and always trying to blend in - not being offendive to natives in any way. Being blonde and blue eyed was perfect for me not to be too much "spoted", after all I was there, taking away work and money some of the natives could get, if you know what I mean.
I was aware of that all the time I spent there.
Just can't get those incomers of yours or here in my country, expecting us to obay their wishes, their rules.....it's retarded, really. It won't be long untill they demand their own country inside yours and of course you'll be "the biggest" reason for that because you don't take them as they are....
If you're a guest, act like a guest and be happy you're allowed to stay there. Really can't get it >:(
Birmingham,parts of London, Bradford.......
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[rant on]
Political Correctness I personally find very, very, offensive and that is why it makes my blood boil. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Personally, I would withdraw my child from school for the day in such circumstances on the grounds that this is a christian country, with the CofE our official religion and Christmas is a christian religious festival.
If people who move to this country don't find our way of life acceptable then they should move to a country that is more agreeable. But in reality most do find it very agreeable and aren't offended, it is only in the minds of Government employed left wing Common Purpose subversives and their ilk, who want to brainwash the next generation.
[rant off]
I don't know about other people but I'm glad I'm leaving this country as me and the EU / Westminster socialism constantly make me very angry. The United Kingdom and me are no longer compatible, sad but true. :( :( :( :( :(
Frying pan and fire comes to mind, Rods. :( :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618)
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I think Russia got us off a hook there as the Ukrainian president has said the EU didn't offer enough financial aid, some of which would have been British taxpayers money. ::)
Well they can't have our money now, but we'll still send them Rods!! ;D
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I think Russia got us off a hook there as the Ukrainian president has said the EU didn't offer enough financial aid, some of which would have been British taxpayers money. ::)
Well they can't have our money now, but we'll still send them Rods!! ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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[rant on]
Political Correctness I personally find very, very, offensive and that is why it makes my blood boil. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Personally, I would withdraw my child from school for the day in such circumstances on the grounds that this is a christian country, with the CofE our official religion and Christmas is a christian religious festival.
If people who move to this country don't find our way of life acceptable then they should move to a country that is more agreeable. But in reality most do find it very agreeable and aren't offended, it is only in the minds of Government employed left wing Common Purpose subversives and their ilk, who want to brainwash the next generation.
[rant off]
I don't know about other people but I'm glad I'm leaving this country as me and the EU / Westminster socialism constantly make me very angry. The United Kingdom and me are no longer compatible, sad but true. :( :( :( :( :(
Frying pan and fire comes to mind, Rods. :( :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618)
It is only a free trade EFA agreement like Switzerland and Norway have. Ukraine needs better access to world markets and to modernise the country. I think they will eventually sign, but where their economy is on a knife edge at the moment with only 2.5 months of foreign reserves and Russia their biggest export market, they are not in a position to survive a trade war.
Many teachers and doctors have not been paid their salaries for several months, this is the reality for their current financial situation.
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[rant on]
Political Correctness I personally find very, very, offensive and that is why it makes my blood boil. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Personally, I would withdraw my child from school for the day in such circumstances on the grounds that this is a christian country, with the CofE our official religion and Christmas is a christian religious festival.
If people who move to this country don't find our way of life acceptable then they should move to a country that is more agreeable. But in reality most do find it very agreeable and aren't offended, it is only in the minds of Government employed left wing Common Purpose subversives and their ilk, who want to brainwash the next generation.
[rant off]
I don't know about other people but I'm glad I'm leaving this country as me and the EU / Westminster socialism constantly make me very angry. The United Kingdom and me are no longer compatible, sad but true. :( :( :( :( :(
Frying pan and fire comes to mind, Rods. :( :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618)
It is only a free trade EFA agreement like Switzerland and Norway have. Ukraine needs better access to world markets and to modernise the country. I think they will eventually sign, but where their economy is on a knife edge at the moment with only 2.5 months of foreign reserves and Russia their biggest export market, they are not in a position to survive a trade war.
Many teachers and doctors have not been paid their salaries for several months, this is the reality for their current financial situation.
How do they pay the rent / mortgage and eat or does the Government ensure their accommodation is secure somehow?..........
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Nativity play cancelled? Excellent......
As an Atheist, I welcome that with open arms. :P
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[rant on]
Political Correctness I personally find very, very, offensive and that is why it makes my blood boil. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Personally, I would withdraw my child from school for the day in such circumstances on the grounds that this is a christian country, with the CofE our official religion and Christmas is a christian religious festival.
If people who move to this country don't find our way of life acceptable then they should move to a country that is more agreeable. But in reality most do find it very agreeable and aren't offended, it is only in the minds of Government employed left wing Common Purpose subversives and their ilk, who want to brainwash the next generation.
[rant off]
I don't know about other people but I'm glad I'm leaving this country as me and the EU / Westminster socialism constantly make me very angry. The United Kingdom and me are no longer compatible, sad but true. :( :( :( :( :(
Frying pan and fire comes to mind, Rods. :( :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25154618)
It is only a free trade EFA agreement like Switzerland and Norway have. Ukraine needs better access to world markets and to modernise the country. I think they will eventually sign, but where their economy is on a knife edge at the moment with only 2.5 months of foreign reserves and Russia their biggest export market, they are not in a position to survive a trade war.
Many teachers and doctors have not been paid their salaries for several months, this is the reality for their current financial situation.
How do they pay the rent / mortgage and eat or does the Government ensure their accommodation is secure somehow?..........
No, your problem it is up to you how you survive. In the past in one bad period, it went on for between 8 and 12 months depending upon the region/city/town/village. Last month cities got paid, so far it looks like no teachers or doctors are going to get paid in any region at the end of this month. When it comes to pay their priorities are the military, police, justice system, prison service, pensioners etc with teachers and doctors right at the bottom of the list as they know their options are limited. Doctors will be alright as they will unofficially charge the patients which they do anyway. It is meant to free at the point of access but it is not. Some unscrupulous teachers will charge the children / students for good marks, but they do that anyway.
Poor pay in the public services is why it is so corrupt where the unscrupulous use their position to make money. The real money earning positions are border guards, police and tax inspectors.
Not a good situation with the imminent onset of winter.
What happened before was people did whatever they needed to do to survive, relying on parents, family and friends, selling stuff, moonlighting, getting another job and using survival techniques, like a hot water bottle or two over layers of clothing is much cheaper to keep warm then trying to heat a house when it is -25degC.
Eastern Europeans learn at a very young age work to survive which is why they have a good work ethic and are as hard as nails.
As you know I'm no fan of the EU, but I think the EFA agreement would help the country because it will put pressure on to modernise their economy and government practices would help the Ukraine and Ukrainian people.
There have been more big protests today in Kiev over the Government's veto of signing the EFA agreement.