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Title: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Duke01 on 05 December 2013, 09:50:04
Hello. Engine cranks, no codes, pump fuse blowing, relays swapped and still blowing. Car has been fine untill now, it has to be the fuel pump i presume? Thought this was very rare.... thinking about it the fuel gauge packed up two days ago aswell.... ? Help :)
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2013, 09:54:19
Yup, change the pump and all should be well :y
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2013, 10:02:01
No, fault find it properly first!  :y

In the boot, remove the cover plate so you can see the fuel pump top and connections, check that the wires are still attached and not shorting out. If all looks ok, then detach the wires and see if the fuse blowing stops.

Do this BEFORE going near the pump (as the fuel pumps are pretty trouble free and its normalty a wiring issue)
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Duke01 on 05 December 2013, 10:07:21
Ok, removed plate and unplugged wires, fuse now blows when i put ignition on. before it only blew when i cranked it...  :(
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2013, 10:15:40
Only suggested, as although uncommon, I know of a car locally that would blow that fuse regularly... swapping the pump, has to the best of my knowledge sorted it :y
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2013, 10:16:48
Ok, so that tells you that the fault is in the wiring, I would expect it to be close to the fuel pump connection, does it still blow with the relay removed?
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2013, 10:18:06
Only suggested, as although uncommon, I know of a car locally that would blow that fuse regularly... swapping the pump, has to the best of my knowledge sorted it :y

You know me Al, test and fault find to pin point and prove rather than straight in and change a part (as per the average garage sadly - Note, no offence ment)  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: amba on 05 December 2013, 10:18:20
Mine would occasionaly blow the fuse as the pump was getting lazy.Could be cured by thumping the underside of the fuel tank but eventually decided to replace pump and no further issues.

OP seems to having a wiring issue as with pump taken out the equation fuse still blows.
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Duke01 on 05 December 2013, 10:20:35
I must admit i suspect the pump, stealers want £177 tho so wont be having a gen item.
If the relay is pulled the fuse doesnt blow...
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2013, 10:27:07
I must admit i suspect the pump, stealers want £177 tho so wont be having a gen item.
If the relay is pulled the fuse doesnt blow...

By disconnecting the wires, the pump is no longer in the circuit so its not that.
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: philhoward on 05 December 2013, 10:30:42
My money is on the loom to the pump then - I've no idea of the path though but expect it's chafed through/got pinched somewhere?  Any recent work in that area?  or anywhere for that matter?
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2013, 10:31:07
Only suggested, as although uncommon, I know of a car locally that would blow that fuse regularly... swapping the pump, has to the best of my knowledge sorted it :y

You know me Al, test and fault find to pin point and prove rather than straight in and change a part (as per the average garage sadly - Note, no offence ment)  :y
None taken :y (it wasn't me btw)

I know your fault diagnostics know no bounds :y You were the one who determined that the only oddity present with my persistant cylinder 6 misfire was a 20kv discrepancy iirc :y
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2013, 10:35:45
That only leaves the purple relays or the loom...

Carefully removing the cover from the relay will confirm whether there's an issue within. Either evidence of heat or pitting of the contacts :-\

Most likely place for the loom to chafe is between the pump and where it reenters the car. Certainly on an estate that would be against the rear chassis leg... not sure about saloons as the loom takes a different route :-\
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Duke01 on 05 December 2013, 10:35:56
Thats a point actually, gave her new shocks and springs last week and that may explain the fuel gauge packing up... gonna go and crawl under now...
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: philhoward on 05 December 2013, 10:37:24
Possibly caught the loom with an axle stand/jack?
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: Duke01 on 05 December 2013, 11:42:40
All sorted  :y When lowering the diff to do rear springs i had trapped the wires under the bolt for the subframe. as you do. Of course they had shorted. How it ran untill now i dont know.Temp repair done but obv need to replace wires. Thanks for being there guys, much appreciated :)
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: philhoward on 05 December 2013, 11:49:11
Result!  Well done.
Title: Re: 3.2 Fuel pump fuse blowing
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 December 2013, 15:01:03
 :y have a word with RobG or Lozzzzz, both are breaking 3.2 saloons.... should be able to replace that loom from the pump to the next plug :y