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Title: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: plym ian on 08 December 2013, 08:26:01
How are these liars politicians justifying an 11% pay rise when the common wage earner is struggling to make ends meet. Something's not right with this country :(

 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25287108
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Dan282 on 08 December 2013, 08:36:01
And that's not including their expenses.  :o
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: cleggy on 08 December 2013, 08:51:47
AH! yes but it's the recommendation of an independent body ::) ::) so it's not the MP's voting for their own pay rise this time but you can bet your sweet life that despite the leaders being against it ::) ::) they all take it. >:( >:( >:( >:(

NOSE, TROUGH :( :o :o :(
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Dan282 on 08 December 2013, 09:09:37
Is ashame it couldn't be the general public. Bet there is a MP in the "independent body" :-X
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: r1 on 08 December 2013, 12:17:20
and why do they need 2 houses?
if  I work away I get a bed and breakfast place,and if its for security then they could buy a big house and share it and have security for a fraction of the price.

Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 December 2013, 13:10:43
Disgraceful when 13million of their constituents are below the poverty line.

But somehow all three party's have refused the pay rise previously, but are having it forced on them by "the independent parliamentary standards authority"

...oh really! They must think we where all born yesterday.
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Rods2 on 08 December 2013, 13:36:21
Why do you think they made it an 'independent group' after all such a system works well for executive pay and we all know how badly public company directors are paid.  :( :( :( :(

Personally, I would be happy for them to earn £500,000 a year if we ended up with real quality management in Parliament so the country was run professionally and well rather than by a bunch of on the whole useless talentless amateurs and they made 100% of our laws not just 20%, where they pay an expensive elective dictatorship in Brussels to dictate 80% of them, the lazy tinkers. Unfortunately, the Brussels experience shows that much better paid politicians are even worse bigoted zealots, so that would make it even worse.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: cleggy on 08 December 2013, 13:48:13
Let's look at it this way:_
1. The PM is just that and should in theory be paid the most from the public purse.

2. Followed by members of Cabinet down to common or garden MP's.

3. No public servant should be paid more than the PM.

Now I don't intend by this to increase their salaries, but all civil servants should take a MASSIVE pay cut. This includes Head Teachers, NHS executives, Council executives ETC ETC. It is about time we said NO after all it is our money these trough feeders squander and they should be brought to account. :y :y :y

I doubt there is such as a thing as an Independent Government body, bit of an oxymoron to me. ::)
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: scimmy_man on 08 December 2013, 19:48:10
Let's look at it this way:_
1. The PM is just that and should in theory be paid the most from the public purse.

2. Followed by members of Cabinet down to common or garden MP's.

3. No public servant should be paid more than the PM.

Now I don't intend by this to increase their salaries, but all civil servants should take a MASSIVE pay cut. This includes Head Teachers, NHS executives, Council executives ETC ETC. It is about time we said NO after all it is our money these trough feeders squander and they should be brought to account. :y :y :y

I doubt there is such as a thing as an Independent Government body, bit of an oxymoron to me. ::)

and doctors?
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Terbs on 08 December 2013, 19:58:59
I've already signed a petition against this. :y
From what I gather, this 11% pay rise was to replace their expenses. However...greedy b******s now are baying for the pay rise AND keep the expenses !!!!! >:(

What a glorious band-wagon to be on !!!!!!!!!!!

And what has to be remembered, this salary is only a part of what MP's really earn, with directors fees, afterdinner talks, TV appearances, etc, etc, etc
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 December 2013, 20:59:33
We're all in it together remember?  ;)
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 December 2013, 21:36:27
We're all in it together remember?  ;)
What? The shit?
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 December 2013, 22:35:06
We're all in it together remember?  ;)
What? The shit?

Ooh, yeah, that's how it goes. Fat cats get a pay rise and ridiculous bonuses while pretending to their minions they're suffering as well.

We're all in it together.  .....Bolleeeeerx!   
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 December 2013, 23:21:15
Nope, we're definitely all on the same boat, it's just that they're in the two story balcony suites, and we're in the bilges...

Trouble is, we can't see where the boat is heading from below the waterline :-\
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 December 2013, 00:35:32
Nope, we're definitely all on the same boat, it's just that they're in the two story balcony suites, and we're in the bilges...

Trouble is, we can't see where the boat is heading from below the waterline :-\

They can't see shit either, despite the fact that their heads are firmly up their arses!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 December 2013, 01:34:01
Nope, we're definitely all on the same boat, it's just that they're in the two story balcony suites, and we're in the bilges...

Trouble is, we can't see where the boat is heading from below the waterline :-\

They can't see shit either, because their heads are firmly up their arses!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Fixed :y
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 13:43:44
Ah yes here we go. Some smug twot (Tory mp Charles walker) on sky news;

I have never turned down a pay rise in my life and I'm not about to start now, I don't want my constituents to think I'm either a million air or a saint, I am human with faults, and I will accept the pay rise.

Are you worth 74k a year...?

That's for Ipsa to decide not us. He said.

Labour pm was dead against the rise as he didn't feel comfortable accepting while his constituents where eating out of food bags. Btw in interest of a balanced view.


I can't think of any walk of life where a pay rise is decided so far in advance. Without any relation to performance or achievement. Well they've seen themselves alright, that's for sure.

Where's me gun? >:(
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 13:52:05
ESP as Tory boy sat there for the rest of the interview with the suggest grin, that god wider the more flabbergasted the response. Un opposing believable.


I'm almost outraged you know. ;)
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 December 2013, 15:05:03


I'm almost outraged you know. ;)

Go buy a copy of The Daily Mail! You know you want too!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: cleggy on 09 December 2013, 15:17:18
I love the way all the ones denying it are forced to accept it, two face barsewards >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 December 2013, 15:18:12
Ah yes here we go. Some smug twot (Tory mp Charles walker) on sky news;

I have never turned down a pay rise in my life and I'm not about to start now, I don't want my constituents to think I'm either a million air or a saint, I am human with faults, and I will accept the pay rise.

Are you worth 74k a year...?

That's for Ipsa to decide not us. He said.

Labour pm was dead against the rise as he didn't feel comfortable accepting while his constituents where eating out of food bags. Btw in interest of a balanced view.


I can't think of any walk of life where a pay rise is decided so far in advance. Without any relation to performance or achievement. Well they've seen themselves alright, that's for sure.

Where's me gun? >:(

Will he be redistributing this extra by way of charity donations then?  ;)
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 December 2013, 16:20:18
Ah yes here we go. Some smug twot (Tory mp Charles walker) on sky news;

I have never turned down a pay rise in my life and I'm not about to start now, I don't want my constituents to think I'm either a million air or a saint, I am human with faults, and I will accept the pay rise.

Are you worth 74k a year...?

That's for Ipsa to decide not us. He said.

Labour pm was dead against the rise as he didn't feel comfortable accepting while his constituents where eating out of food bags. Btw in interest of a balanced view.


I can't think of any walk of life where a pay rise is decided so far in advance. Without any relation to performance or achievement. Well they've seen themselves alright, that's for sure.

Where's me gun? >:(

Will he be redistributing this extra by way of charity donations then?  ;)

Yep, I didn't buy it either tbh.
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 December 2013, 16:26:11
Ah yes here we go. Some smug twot (Tory mp Charles walker) on sky news;

I have never turned down a pay rise in my life and I'm not about to start now, I don't want my constituents to think I'm either a million air or a saint, I am human with faults, and I will accept the pay rise.

Are you worth 74k a year...?

That's for Ipsa to decide not us. He said.

Labour pm was dead against the rise as he didn't feel comfortable accepting while his constituents where eating out of food bags. Btw in interest of a balanced view.


I can't think of any walk of life where a pay rise is decided so far in advance. Without any relation to performance or achievement. Well they've seen themselves alright, that's for sure.

Where's me gun? >:(

Will he be redistributing this extra by way of charity donations then?  ;)

Yep, I didn't buy it either tbh.

At the end of the day I can't believe anything Labour say; their note to Osborne they left saying ''the money's all gone'' confirmed to me they're a bunch of piss-takers. At least the blues are trying to turn things around and have been very successful so far. imo
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 December 2013, 16:50:10
So, we need to pay our MPs more to attract a better calibre of person into political life. No arguments here about the current batch of wasters across all parties. Why are we just paying the current unfit-for-purpose losers more?

Shouldn't we just sack them all on the spot and have them re-apply for their jobs after upping the pay and the requirements? ;)

I don't buy the comparisons with salaries between CEOs in industry and MPs either. The former are looking after thousands of employees in many cases, ensuring they all pull in the direction that's going to put bread on the table. The latter is like being on the committee of the local W.I. branch in comparison. ::)
Title: Re: I'd love an 11% pay rise
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 December 2013, 16:56:30
I heard they won't be getting anything like 11% as, like everyone else in the public sector, their pension contributions will rise....for no more actual pension.