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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: chrisgixer on 10 December 2013, 18:37:25
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Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?
I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly. ::)
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Not had that upgrade yet still SD on my 102 - not on HD package but HD box
Are you on the HD package that might have something to do with it
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Still in the same place here.
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I did it to piss you off ;D
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I did it to piss you off ;D
:D :D ;)
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I did it to piss you off ;D
No suprise there ;D
Did you re apply the internet monthly sub after we left for Virgin bb as well. ::) ;D
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Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?
I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly. ::)
Only just found out that its not full HD....Its not transmitted
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Why have sky now moved BBC 2 HD (from 142) and put in in place of BBC 2 (102), and not bothered with BBC 1 HD which is still on 141?
I won't ask why both BBC HD channels where put in such obscure Chanel numbers btw, as I might get all "outraged" about it, and that would just be silly. ::)
Only just found out that its not full HD....Its not transmitted
Sky is only in 1080i.
4k coming next year I'm told. Maybe Tunnie can confirm?
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720 is good enough for all unless you have hawk eyes :y
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Saw a 4k tv in John Lewis today.
Absolutely stunning. Time lapse city scapes from day to night. Incredible detail. And absolutely zero "noise" anywhere. Even the river surface ripples where perfect.
Equally staggering price tag mind, but give it time. :)
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If you wanna see 1080p(its a disc in the proper Bluray player(not ps3) or a full download rip.(converted in the proper way,,,ish )
Im sure if im wrong i will be corrected.
There are loads of versions of 1080p And sky are not going to give you the full monty 1080p HD..And even if they did you would not notice it from the lower 1080p (but your piece of mind would be happy with them telling you they are giving you that)
look at the spec below; its a ripped bluray to mkv....
Matroska at 16.3 Mbps
Length : 12.6 GiB for 1h 50mn 49s 142ms
Video #0 : AVC at 15.1 Mbps
Aspect : 1920 x 1080 (1.778) at 29.970 fps
Audio #0 : AC-3 at 448 Kbps
Infos : 6 channels, 48.0 KHz
Language : english
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Indeed. Resolution is pretty much immaterial given that all broadcast HD (especially via Sky) is beaten down to the minimum bitrate they can possibly get away with. Go to 4k and, until there is an explosion in the available bandwidth to the home, we will still have very mediocre HD broadcast content. Remember that what you see in the shops is not broadcast material, it's a very short clip of very high bitrate content being streamed locally, hence the lack of noise, incredible detail, etc.
Give it to uncle Rupert, who has to shoe-horn in as many shopping channels as he possibly can, and it's all over.
Also, look at a 4k TV from normal viewing difference instead of 6" in a shop and tell me you can tell a significant difference between that and 1080i. ;)
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Like I said Kev, give it time. Obviously no 4k broadcast exists currently, so the source is disc media based.
The point of this is, hold off buying your new smart tv, disc player, media centre/hub games console. There is more to come from HD in the form of 4k, and its defo worth having. Defo ;)
The difference between sets in the shop is Marked, before even looking at the labels to tell you if its oled led or 4k.
4k stands out head and shoulders. ..."wow, the picture on that one is awesome, head and shoulders above the rest" then when you look at the label "ah, its 4k..."
Specsavers was just over the road too ;)
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The point of this is, hold off buying your new smart tv, disc player, media centre/hub games console.
Well, the industry like to give the impression that each year's TV model has something that you can't live without to keep suckers buying TVs. ;) They wouldn't survive if everyone only bought a TV when the old one wore out, after all. Hence the stream of fads such as HD ready, Full HD, 3D, "Smart" TVs, and so on.
OLED should be a significant step forward but you'd be a mug to buy one at current prices IMHO. 4K really depends on the content arriving in the home at a suitable quality level, and, even on blue ray, that's not happening yet. It'll also be a waste of time for people like myself whose choice of panel size is 37".
But yes, need to make the trips to Specsavers pretty regular to benefit, I reckon. :D
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Why choose a specific screen size based purely on a number and ignore all else beyond?
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Indeed. Resolution is pretty much immaterial given that all broadcast HD (especially via Sky) is beaten down to the minimum bitrate they can possibly get away with. Go to 4k and, until there is an explosion in the available bandwidth to the home, we will still have very mediocre HD broadcast content.
Yup, some may have noticed we shut down Sky Text services too, as that took up a lot of bandwidth. When the Olympics were on we had to shut down a lot of box office channels to make room.
Not seen anything around 4k TV broadcast, if we did, it would be like the 3D channel, so limited content on a single channel.
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Why choose a specific screen size based purely on a number and ignore all else beyond?
Because I want it on the wall above the fireplace where it doesn't take up too much space. It doesn't get watched that much, so I'm willing to sacrifice on size when I am watching a film, in order that a large, blank, black screen doesn't dominate the room when I'm not. ;)
Given that the sofa is probably 3m plus away, I doubt anything over about 720p makes any difference to what I see. (except artifacts on channels that have low bitrate)
Now, when it comes to sacrificing on the size of speakers... that's a different prospect entirely. ;)
For me, if 4K does become a reality in the home, It'll only be worthwhile on a projector, so you can roll up the (necessarily huge) screen and use a small tv when watching casually.
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Why choose a specific screen size based purely on a number and ignore all else beyond?
Because I want it on the wall above the fireplace where it doesn't take up too much space. It doesn't get watched that much, so I'm willing to sacrifice on size when I am watching a film, in order that a large, blank, black screen doesn't dominate the room when I'm not. ;)
Given that the sofa is probably 3m plus away, I doubt anything over about 720p makes any difference to what I see. (except artifacts on channels that have low bitrate)
Now, when it comes to sacrificing on the size of speakers... that's a different prospect entirely. ;)
For me, if 4K does become a reality in the home, It'll only be worthwhile on a projector, so you can roll up the (necessarily huge) screen and use a small tv when watching casually.
For you, yes utterly pointless... Ok, so everyone else, carry on.
Set of binoculars ordered from Santa in Alton. ;)
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Another update today. Search function added to the planner.
But they STILL haven't moved BBC1 HD. COME ON TUNNIE. it's getting on my OCD nerves. ;D