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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Rods2 on 15 December 2013, 02:12:55
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html)
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Saw this myself and thought exactly the same >:(
Seen a story recently about 2 chaps that had been prosecuted for harassing people in the street for they way they dressed and being drunk saying it was a sharia area under sharia law :y
Not exactly the start of all this though. Look at this from 2008 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055764/Islamic-sharia-courts-Britain-legally-binding.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055764/Islamic-sharia-courts-Britain-legally-binding.html) >:(
It was proclaimed to be death by a thousand cuts wasn't it :-\ :o
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Hardly the future of Britain, its one nuisance "Cleric" stiring up the easily lead.
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i am surprised no one has picked up on Universities segregating men and women during certain talks or lectures as it was deemed appropriate.
A backward step after all these years of fighting for equality for women.
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Hardly the future of Britain, its one nuisance "Cleric" stiring up the easily lead.
Exactly Chris! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Do we really believe that a few religious zealots, including women completely suppressed in full burkhas, is going to turn the vast majority of our 62 million population, that includes many other religions and political ideologies, into supporting Islamic nonsense to change British laws?
No, of course not, and this is just another sensational attempt by the Dailyfail to sell more papers under the pretext of mounting some form of anti-Islamic crusade! It is shameful, and will no doubt inflame those who lack a few brain cells into taking violent and unnecessary illegal action against innocent people.
The Fascists under Mosley in nearby Cable Street could not advance their evil cause due to mass resistance of more level and democratically minded people in 1936, so why fear a few nutty religious activists? In our history we have suffered, and survived, many Catholic and Protestant risings, which included the massacre of thousands of innocent individuals, including the beheading of a King, and the banning of Christmas celebrations. But in the end the people spoke en mass and rose up to stop democratically this religious fever to produce the secular, but tolerant, society of today.
No nutters well ever destroy our British way of life. Not even the Spanish or French, and Hitler with a military force of millions could achieve that. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html)
Do they buy the cloth thing on the roll :P
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at least we now know where the term going out on the lash comes from ;D
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2523658/Muslim-campaigners-protest-sale-alcohol-popular-East-London-area.html)
Did you see the picture of a 'local man'. Pissed out of his brain. ;D
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Hardly the future of Britain, its one nuisance "Cleric" stiring up the easily lead.
Exactly Chris! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Do we really believe that a few religious zealots, including women completely suppressed in full burkhas, is going to turn the vast majority of our 62 million population, that includes many other religions and political ideologies, into supporting Islamic nonsense to change British laws?
No, of course not, and this is just another sensational attempt by the Dailyfail to sell more papers under the pretext of mounting some form of anti-Islamic crusade! It is shameful, and will no doubt inflame those who lack a few brain cells into taking violent and unnecessary illegal action against innocent people.
The Fascists under Mosley in nearby Cable Street could not advance their evil cause due to mass resistance of more level and democratically minded people in 1936, so why fear a few nutty religious activists? In our history we have suffered, and survived, many Catholic and Protestant risings, which included the massacre of thousands of innocent individuals, including the beheading of a King, and the banning of Christmas celebrations. But in the end the people spoke en mass and rose up to stop democratically this religious fever to produce the secular, but tolerant, society of today.
No nutters well ever destroy our British way of life. Not even the Spanish or French, and Hitler with a military force of millions could achieve that. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
If we didn't have papers like the Daily Mail the general populace would have no idea that things like this go on. Knowledge is power so they say and as we have the knowledge, we should have the power to nip this sort of thing in the bud before it becomes a bigger problem and does threaten our British way of life. ;) The BBC, Guardian and Mirror were probably cheering them on! :o If they could be bothered to report it that is.... :-\
Choudhary and his cronies should have been arrested for inciting violence and religious hatred! :)
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Burying your heads in the sand and shooting the messenger always works. ::) ::) ::) ::) So I wish you and your children good luck for the future.
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Burying your heads in the sand and shooting the messenger always works. ::) ::) ::) ::) So I wish you and your children good luck for the future.
Thank you, as there are far bigger threats to our existence than a small bunch of nutters that even the vast majority of Muslims do not support in any way.
But that does not make a story that the "outraged" like to promote, but you join those who have always been there to spread fear amongst the population over the centuries. Do not make the excuse that you are purely the messenger, as surely that is never your intention! By mentioning on this Forum, just a car forum, you are doing more than being a messenger and speading more unnecessary alarm.:-X :-X :-X
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I can't understand why the good people of London don't just beat the shite out of them.
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Burying your heads in the sand and shooting the messenger always works. ::) ::) ::) ::) So I wish you and your children good luck for the future.
Thank you, as there are far bigger threats to our existence than a small bunch of nutters that even the vast majority of Muslims do not support in any way.
But that does not make a story that the "outraged" like to promote, but you join those who have always been there to spread fear amongst the population over the centuries. Do not make the excuse that you are purely the messenger, as surely that is never your intention! By mentioning on this Forum, just a car forum, you are doing more than being a messenger and speading more unnecessary alarm.:-X :-X :-X
Lets be honest here the highlighted sentence above just about hits the nail on the head
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I can't understand why the good people of London don't just beat the shite out of them.
...that's what they want, an excuse to escalate. Gather momentum. Press don't help. Along with over inflated attitudes of self importance. Hence the idiotic stance of the Daily oppsing FAIL >:(
If there where no cameras in the world, do you think they'd bother?
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Hardly the future of Britain, its one nuisance "Cleric" stiring up the easily lead.
Exactly Chris! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Do we really believe that a few religious zealots, including women completely suppressed in full burkhas, is going to turn the vast majority of our 62 million population, that includes many other religions and political ideologies, into supporting Islamic nonsense to change British laws?
No, of course not, and this is just another sensational attempt by the Dailyfail to sell more papers under the pretext of mounting some form of anti-Islamic crusade! It is shameful, and will no doubt inflame those who lack a few brain cells into taking violent and unnecessary illegal action against innocent people.
The Fascists under Mosley in nearby Cable Street could not advance their evil cause due to mass resistance of more level and democratically minded people in 1936, so why fear a few nutty religious activists? In our history we have suffered, and survived, many Catholic and Protestant risings, which included the massacre of thousands of innocent individuals, including the beheading of a King, and the banning of Christmas celebrations. But in the end the people spoke en mass and rose up to stop democratically this religious fever to produce the secular, but tolerant, society of today.
No nutters well ever destroy our British way of life. Not even the Spanish or French, and Hitler with a military force of millions could achieve that. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I understand that situation still stands in certain places in the UK !!!! Political do-gooders !!!!
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I can't understand why the good people of London don't just beat the shite out of them.
because most people dont give a toss the fact is you would get a long stretch as it definately would go down as a race crime and i would imagine they stick to east london where they are the majority saying that if they tried it in most parts of se london they would get a beating would love to see them spout off near my local pub that would be interesting :-X :-X
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Maybe the thread should be retitled 'Future of London'. The East End is like downtown Kabul.
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Do you remember when gangs of black youths were terrorising London? The police were encouraged to recruit more black officers. What do you reckon?
PC Bin Laden? :-X
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About ten years ago in that papers supplement there was an article by a high ranking Muslim spokesman, I remember showing it to a colleague the last line was "We will not be happy till the flag of Islam is flying in Downing street". unless someone in power has the balls to do something I fear that this may happen..
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Maybe the thread should be retitled 'Future of London'. The East End is like downtown Kabul.
And then there's China town, Asian community's, etc etc. most of which understand "understanding" and "tolerance" The idea being that tolerance should be repaid.
.....They'll get there, eventually. :)
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About ten years ago in that papers supplement there was an article by a high ranking Muslim spokesman, I remember showing it to a colleague the last line was "We will not be happy till the flag of Islam is flying in Downing street". unless someone in power has the balls to do something I fear that this may happen..
Can't see it meself.
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Some posters on this thread cannot imo have spent much time in East London (Whitechapel area in particular ) in recent times.
I have,and no exaggeration, it really is like a foreign country.
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When all them Irish came to Liverpool people started saying scousers would end up being thieving little tinkers who ate nothing but chips just like them. Never happened. I don't even like chips.
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I came from Ireland to Liverpool,took one look and didn't stop for another 250 miles. ;D ;D
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Some posters on this thread cannot imo have spent much time in East London (Whitechapel area in particular ) in recent times.
I have,and no exaggeration, it really is like a foreign country.
Some posters clearly haven't been to parts of Southern Spain. It really is just like Essex. ;)
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Some posters on this thread cannot imo have spent much time in East London (Whitechapel area in particular ) in recent times.
I have,and no exaggeration, it really is like a foreign country.
Some posters clearly haven't been to parts of Southern Spain. It really is just like Essex. ;)
Loads of ruskkies in Spain now Chris ;D
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The whole of London is like a foreign country now
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The whole of London is like a foreign country now
And here in leicester we are not far behind.Should move some of them to your end.
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I thought it was a load of primitives from the middle ages taking their bin liners out to the skip ;)
If these muslims don't like it here then don't try to change us just freak off to somewhere you like :y :y
Then again we could just shoot the primitive arse wipes :y :y :y :y
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Maybe the thread should be retitled 'Future of London'. The East End is like downtown Kabul.
And then there's China town, Asian community's, etc etc. most of which understand "understanding" and "tolerance" The idea being that tolerance should be repaid.
.....They'll get there, eventually. :)
Tolerance is subjective though, isn't it? :-\
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I read somewhere the second most popular given name in Britain is Muhammed, it's a fact within two generations Germany will be a muslim dominated culture purely due to the fact of family sizes and the fact that muslim families tend to have more kids, i'm not saying sharia law will come into play but me thinks there will certainly be changes, just remember not every Muslim is a terrorist but I can safely say that just about every active terrorist is an Islamist.
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I read somewhere the second most popular given name in Britain is Muhammed, it's a fact within two generations Germany will be a muslim dominated culture purely due to the fact of family sizes and the fact that muslim families tend to have more kids, i'm not saying sharia law will come into play but me thinks there will certainly be changes, just remember not every Muslim is a terrorist but I can safely say that just about every active terrorist is an Islamist.
What's an Islamist?
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No nutters well ever destroy our British way of life. Not even the Spanish or French, and Hitler with a military force of millions could achieve that. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
There is a major difference, most people of Britain united against them as an obvious military threat. In this case our culture etc is being eroded not simply by "nutters" and mass immigration, but very much from within by our politically correct politicians and jobsworth civil servants.
Britain has always changed, just remember that the Angles and the Saxons were from continental Europe, the Vikings occupied a very large part of Britain, and at one stage Norman French was the official language. These changes were mostly imposed by military means.
Anyone who thinks that the face and culture of Britain has not changed in the last 10 or so years and is not changing now, really is wearing rose tinted glasses while walking in cuckooland.
I am amused by the French stance. France is a staunch supporter of the EU that is so frequently blamed by our politicians with "our hands are tied by EU legislation" excuses, and yet it is France that has banned religious symbols in schools and taken a much harder line on various issues than the UK would ever have to balls to do. Is this why the migrants travel through France to get here I wonder ?
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I think you have a valid point there, Rog ;)
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The whole of London is like a foreign country now
It always has been since the foreigner Romans started the place, and repeated waves of foreign merchants and tradespeople occupied the Eastern sectors of London. The Dutch settlers there; good, honest traders; were even intatially blamed for starting the Great Fire of London in 1666. My mothers side of the family were actually French Jewish merchants who came across in the 19th century, adding to the very large Jewish population that existed then and still does!
Do I ever hear any members mentioning that? No, of course not as they and most other foreigners get on in London and work hard in business and commerce generally.
And yes I do know what it is like in London now as I had the privilege of dealing with a multi-race and cultural population throughout the Old Kent Road and New Cross. I had many of my staff from across the Globe, and the only problems I really had were with WHITE BRITISH! Funny that! ::) ::) ::)
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No nutters well ever destroy our British way of life. Not even the Spanish or French, and Hitler with a military force of millions could achieve that. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
There is a major difference, most people of Britain united against them as an obvious military threat. In this case our culture etc is being eroded not simply by "nutters" and mass immigration, but very much from within by our politically correct politicians and jobsworth civil servants.
Britain has always changed, just remember that the Angles and the Saxons were from continental Europe, the Vikings occupied a very large part of Britain, and at one stage Norman French was the official language. These changes were mostly imposed by military means.
Anyone who thinks that the face and culture of Britain has not changed in the last 10 or so years and is not changing now, really is wearing rose tinted glasses while walking in cuckooland.
I am amused by the French stance. France is a staunch supporter of the EU that is so frequently blamed by our politicians with "our hands are tied by EU legislation" excuses, and yet it is France that has banned religious symbols in schools and taken a much harder line on various issues than the UK would ever have to balls to do. Is this why the migrants travel through France to get here I wonder ?
Of course it has and always will change as is the rest of the World! Do you think anything stays the same, least of all the populations of most nations? ::) ::) :D :D ;) ;)
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The Islamic religion is also very different from the Christian religion, where with Muslims it is a complete way of life. You either are one or a Kafir which means means non-believer. With this way of life anybody not conforming to the strict religious standards will come under pressure from their community, I have personally seen it happen.
Jihad is a war against the Kafirs. The jihadists in Kenya let all of the Muslims leave the shopping mall before they started slaughtering the Kafirs.
With all of the ethnic cleansing of Christians in the Middle East since 1945 which is highlighted in a UN report I think there are real issues between Christians and Muslims that can be swept under the table and ignored, but at some point like 9/11, 7/7, Boston etc. and after numerous other plots including liquid explosives in drink bottles that there are going to be more major problems in the future. We are seeing many of these in North Africa at the moment which is why French troops are there trying to keep the peace and there have been many bomb outrages against Christians in Nigeria and more recently in Egypt.
Most religions are much more tolerant to non-believers including Christianity and the mass migration of people of these other religions to the UK has not lead to a 7/7, attacks on Glasgow airport or other conspiracies or patrols to try and impose their own beliefs on the population at large. Tolerance is a two way street and has been reciprocated as far as I'm aware by all other religions and ethnic minorities that have come to live in the UK.
For those that say Muslims are like all other ethnic minorities then I think 7/7, other thwarted attacks, Muslim patrols etc shows this is not true.
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Maybe the thread should be retitled 'Future of London'. The East End is like downtown Kabul.
Just watching the future of London on panorama.
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Muslim refers to the religion and related culture, while Islamist refers to the modern ideology that is a mix of Islam, politics, social conservatism and anger.
So Muslims can include the most liberal, hip, streetwise fashionistas of Kuala Lumpur or Sarajevo, while Islamists tend to be angry beardies with AK-47s objecting to everyone that doesn't fit their narrow restrictive view of the world.
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we need a Koran wielding smiley or one with a bomb lol
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The whole of London is like a foreign country now
It always has been since the foreigner Romans started the place, and repeated waves of foreign merchants and tradespeople occupied the Eastern sectors of London. The Dutch settlers there; good, honest traders; were even intatially blamed for starting the Great Fire of London in 1666. My mothers side of the family were actually French Jewish merchants who came across in the 19th century, adding to the very large Jewish population that existed then and still does!
Do I ever hear any members mentioning that? No, of course not as they and most other foreigners get on in London and work hard in business and commerce generally.
And yes I do know what it is like in London now as I had the privilege of dealing with a multi-race and cultural population throughout the Old Kent Road and New Cross. I had many of my staff from across the Globe, and the only problems I really had were with WHITE BRITISH! Funny that! ::) ::) ::)
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I worked in London for 10 years in the restaurant trade which was full of Muslims (restaurant with 40 staff 3 Brits!!) and i can safely say there was certainly a pair of fanatics within that group but also many that were nice , what always got me though is they always talked about how you must respect them when they don't give any respect to you. Religous wars are as old as religion itself and personally I think this one is in it's infancy( although you may not call it a war but more of an uprising) and this will creep through societies as more and more get educated in the west and end up in high positions in government e.t.c and manage to take more and more control, this is not a racist comment but just my thoughts.
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Islamists or radical muslims are never going to become part of or contribute to our society like previous immigrants. They want to change us into a muslim state with sharia law and if any liberal loving tree huggers think differently then they can start wearing a burka now.
Wake up and smell the coffee , no more tolerance in OUR Country of these primitives from the middle ages kick them out now :y :y :y :y.
Why wait until we suffer atrocities in out shopping centres etc, just look at the rest of the world and sometimes we support them :( :(
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