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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 23 December 2013, 16:10:10
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Feel like treating myself to a gadget, to make things easier for car stuff.
I've been impressed with my every day DIY Makita..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-BTW251Z-Li-ion-Impact-Wrench/dp/B000YNEN6U/ref=sr_1_4?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1387814633&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-BTW251Z-Li-ion-Impact-Wrench/dp/B000YNEN6U/ref=sr_1_4?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1387814633&sr=1-4)
Any recommendations?
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Not sure what make Chris' one is, but it's compact enough to be useful :y some are too bulky for much more than wheel bolt removal :-\
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Yes do like this, but have a feeling that was twice the price of the above.
Think he got his from states? :-\
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If you are going to be using it on a regular basis,then a rechargeable type is ideal, but for occasional use then machine mart/sealey do a 240v corded one.
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Needs to be cordless charger type really :)
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Fair enough. Just remember every so often,to run it totally flat,to preserve the battery. Might be an urban myth with the newer batterys..
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Check that one uses same batteries as you kit, else the cost will become pretty heavy.
230Nm isn't anywhere near enough to undo wheel bolts, but will pop them out once you've cracked them with a breaker.
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I have a Makita cordless drill/driver that I bought about 6 months ago when my Focus own brand drill died after about 6 years. I paid about £90 for the Makita and about £20 for the Focus drill. I was always really pleased with the cheap drill, but have been less pleased with the Makita. :(
Maybe if the Makita is still going strong in 20 years I'll be more impressed!! :-\
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Check your battery set is in good nic and not due to be replaced by a newer model range, as your batteries will be extremely hard to get hold of in a very short space of time once the new model is out.
But I'm guessing from the slide on body shape that its the newer set they all swapped over to from the slap in style ones of old. Batteries and charger are absolutely key to the set obviously, as you've probably heard the master say on here on other threads.
Lithium ion need constant use to keep the batteries tip top, each time I go out to the garage I stick one in charge, keep them rotated and fully charged to keep the electrons(?) moving or they'll drop of the charge scale and the charger won't switch on complaining the batteries are caput.
If its only occasional use go for ni cad as they hold the charge better over long periods I believe, but check that info first I have no experience with them.
You'll also find the body only is cheaper in the states. Less than half price ime. Costco wanted little under £190 for the body only. I paid £90 incl duty from the states. And it was better spec, with a built in torch attachment none of the uk ones had. (Obviously the charger needs to be uk spec)
My one is a tiddler. It won't do wheel nuts at 110nm. It probably does 90 to 100nm absolute max fully charged, and about 70nm average over a complete discharged battery. But it's VERY handy in small species. Loosen off first. Short reach, narrow body., fits on wishbone bolts, under sills for donut bushes where the big powerful ones are too long and bloody heavy for under car work where you have to hold it above your head.
In all honesty I was going to go for a snap on one for wheel nuts. But with use of my tiddler after a while I don't think its worth the cost. You have to get the torque wrench out to do the bolts up anyway, so I use that to brake the nuts loose, then wiz them out with the orgazma gizmo. Wiz back in on refitting, torque up, jobbed. It saves so much agro, its light and useful more jobs than a big one would be.
The only thing I don't like about mine is the trigger. Its a switch. It's either flat out or off. It really needs the control of a progressive trigger tbh, the risk of cross threading would be massively reduced. Not that I've had a problem with that so far.
Brilliant little things they are. ...try not to get it wet though. ::)
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
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I've had an 18v Duralast impact wrench for a while, which is pretty small, but rated to 210Nm. Like Chris, I find it barely has the guts to loosen correctly tightened wheelnuts. But, I use it in exactly the same way; winding in long/large bolts, or on pullers and spring compressors which it does really well. I find that the ordinary air impact wrenches are similar unless used with a really big compressor.
They're really handy, but at about £200 for something worthwhile are still a luxury. As always with cordless tools, the battery quality is critical.
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
Is a Vat free day due?
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
Is a Vat free day due?
Mine came through yesterday for Jan 5th and 12th.
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
Is a Vat free day due?
Mine came through yesterday for Jan 5th and 12th.
I don't always get them via email, here is hoping :)
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At the place I take my car to for tyres (Scotts Tyres Northampton who I can't recommend enough!) they use cordless impact guns with the removable/rechargeable batteries. They buzz lug nuts off with ease. I'm due a couple of new tyres in January so I'll check out the make/model.
Obviously I expect they're good ones so price may be an issue depending on your budget but I'll check out what they are :)
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Didn't you write to Father Christmas Tunnie? :-\ ;)
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If going for a biggy, snap on or ingersol rand(?) are probably best options on durability. Expensive. But if your going to do a job, do it proper.
Snap on one most powerful but 1 year warranty on electrics
IR almost as powerful but two years on sparks.
...last I looked anyway.
Snap on link for Image purposes for Webby. This one?
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/general/hrdp_1207_cordless_impact_gun_tests/
Wim have a couple. Generally considered the only
Option for professional use.
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IR cordless
http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/am-en/products/tools/Iqv-cordless-tools/iqv20/w7150-1-2-20v-high-torque-impactool
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That's what it looks like, Chris although I couldn't say for certain. All their other tools are Strap-on so I imagine the tool truck visits them :y
Ps, talking of Strap-on.... their bloody van always parks at a garage on the way to school.... I wish he'd park up properly instead of blocking a single carriage way on national speed limit!!! >:(
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;D they are like a bloody sweet shop those snap on vans. Way to easy to sign your wages away in monthly instalments before any money has even been earned.
Avoid general browsing in there it's lethal.
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;D they are like a bloody sweet shop those snap on vans. Way to easy to sign your wages away in monthly instalments before any money has even been earned.
Avoid general browsing in there it's lethal.
Couldn't agree more, mate. I see absolutely no reason to buy Strap-on; well, not hand tools anyway.
The school awarded some ratchets to kids who'd done well last year. They had their names engraved on them which I thought was a nice touch. However, before the engraving each ratchet cost somewhere in the £80 range :o :o :o For kids essentially starting their careers shortly after college I would have thought a full Halfords tool kit would have been more appropriate for around the same money!
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Yep I agree. Screw driver bits 'n all ;D
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Yep I agree. Screw driver bits 'n all ;D
:o :-X ;D ;D ;D
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
Tunnie's after a cordless one :y
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
Tunnie's after a cordless one :y
yep, I know ;)
But corded versions have been mentioned...
Is it just a matter of convenience?
Dragging my compressor out is a PITA, whereas I have mains right next to my work area.
Or is there another reason?
I'm asking cos I'll be setting up a workshop next year - plumbed in air + 240V + 110V (possibly 3PH) and wondering if there's another reason for going corded mains?
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
Yes, you have all three Angles to the conversation in one there really.
Tunnie doesn't have a compressor. And he'd need to spend more than a top of the range cordless on a compressor to get the torque level with air tools. But air would last longer.
The links for the snap on and ir cordless are for Webby to I.D the cordless tools in his tyre shop.
Tunnie doesn't need to spend that sort
of money.
Given he has the batteries already, the first link is probably his cheapest and most efficient option given his work load. Assuming his batteries last of course. :)
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
Tunnie's after a cordless one :y
yep, I know ;)
But corded versions have been mentioned...
Is it just a matter of convenience?
Dragging my compressor out is a PITA, whereas I have mains right next to my work area.
Or is there another reason?
I'm asking cos I'll be setting up a workshop next year - plumbed in air + 240V + 110V (possibly 3PH) and wondering if there's another reason for going corded mains?
Oh, sorry :y
This is just my opinion having now used the corded (home) and compressed air (college) but air is totally the best one. My corded one is 450nm but struggles with anything above lug nuts. It wouldn't shift Mad Mechanics crank pulley bolt on a Civic. Plus the fact you still have to drag a ''line'' about (although of course it is a lot easier than an air line).
Having said that there's just the gun itself to buy i.e. no compressor so I imagine they sell as the DIYer sees that as an advantage in not having to buy a compressor also.
If you're using it professionally, in my opinion, you have to have compressed air. Unless you work in the aforementioned ''tyres only'' shop where you only ever need to undo lug nuts.
:y
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Am I missing something?
Why buy a corded impact wrench for £100+
rather than an air wrench for £30, and a compressor - which any DIY garage would/should have any way?
I would guess that even a cheap compressor would run an impact wrench for the 30s that they are actually used?
Tunnie's after a cordless one :y
yep, I know ;)
But corded versions have been mentioned...
Is it just a matter of convenience?
Dragging my compressor out is a PITA, whereas I have mains right next to my work area.
Or is there another reason?
I'm asking cos I'll be setting up a workshop next year - plumbed in air + 240V + 110V (possibly 3PH) and wondering if there's another reason for going corded mains?
Air for durability.
Cordless for portability as they probably have a call out service or a need to service cars in the car park.
Corded to save on batteries, and cheap to buy. No experience with them though.
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;D they are like a bloody sweet shop those snap on vans. Way to easy to sign your wages away in monthly instalments before any money has even been earned.
Avoid general browsing in there it's lethal.
Couldn't agree more, mate. I see absolutely no reason to buy Strap-on; well, not hand tools anyway.
The school awarded some ratchets to kids who'd done well last year. They had their names engraved on them which I thought was a nice touch. However, before the engraving each ratchet cost somewhere in the £80 range :o :o :o For kids essentially starting their careers shortly after college I would have thought a full Halfords tool kit would have been more appropriate for around the same money!
I bit the bullet some 25 years ago and bought snappy spanners and sockets,never damaged a spanner but have split a few sockets,all replaced foc,I have the snappy leccy impact gun too,it's the only gun I've had that will undo Transit wheel nuts with ease :y
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
Is a Vat free day due?
We were posted out vouchers a week or so ago. Can't remember the dates.
You'd also need to invest in some deep 17mm impact sockets, ideally with plastic outer covers to protect alloy. MM do some for about (£20).
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As to air versus cordless for hobbyist, my old air compressor, 8mm ID hose and my selection of air guns were approx as powerful as chrisgixers Hitachi cordless whizzy. My cordless whizzy was a tad stronger, but still not enough to undo a wheel bolt that had been on a while.
For a more professional setup, a lot more money needs to be spent, whichever route you go down.
I will be replacing my Clarke cordless, as I have a spare battery for it that was in the house when the fire happened. If I had the money and could justify the cost, I'd buy a Snap-Off one, as they are a lot better.
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The big Snap-On one is easily £600 and Li-on batteries are more. You need two if you're actually going to be using it, and at those prices you'd need it in your hand pretty much all day.
As for occasional DIY use, air tools are a pain. Although they're cheap to buy, by the time you've drained the expensive to buy compressor, fired it up, sworn at the noise, found the hose, waited for it to fill, and reminded yourself(once again) that it's a bit small for what you're going to do, you could have done most jobs. Plus, the tools aren't exactly quiet in use either. Which would you rather pay the electricity bill for; a 600watt grinder(for instance) or a 3hp motor? The hose is always a nuisance, and a cordless tool puts that out of the way. Or is just me that has the charger screwed to the wall?
Instead of an impact wrench a 2foot-long 1/2" drive ratchet is well worth considering. I've a Snap-On one that was expensive, but has proved to be much more useful in the truck than the cordless impact was.
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The big Snap-On one is easily £600 and Li-on batteries are more. You need two if you're actually going to be using it, and at those prices you'd need it in your hand pretty much all day.
As for occasional DIY use, air tools are a pain. Although they're cheap to buy, by the time you've drained the expensive to buy compressor, fired it up, sworn at the noise, found the hose, waited for it to fill, and reminded yourself(once again) that it's a bit small for what you're going to do, you could have done most jobs. Plus, the tools aren't exactly quiet in use either. Which would you rather pay the electricity bill for; a 600watt grinder(for instance) or a 3hp motor? The hose is always a nuisance, and a cordless tool puts that out of the way. Or is just me that has the charger screwed to the wall?
Instead of an impact wrench a 2foot-long 1/2" drive ratchet is well worth considering. I've a Snap-On one that was expensive, but has proved to be much more useful in the truck than the cordless impact was.
That is actually a really good point! Although I suppose if you're undoing bolts in an awkward position getting that in may be a problem? :-\
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As Nick says, and my point earlier. Re wheel nuts, the torque wrench has to come out anyway to tighten the wheel bolt. So it's no biggy to undo the bolt with it as well first. Then wiz away with your Orgazma gizmo, which just saves do much time and elbow grease.
I use my 300nm halfords torque wrench for most jobs involving leverage of any sort.
So Halfords 150pc socket set(with screw driver bits ;D ) Halfords torque wrench and Hitachi Orgazma gizmo are the first things to come out or go in the boot.
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To add, for Tunnie. For the amount of use v cost. The makita in the first link is best. IMO.
But for heavy use.... Well, I'm repeating meself now. ::)
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Trouble is I don't think the batteries I have fit, they look different from ones I have. (On Matika)
I'm swinging more to the beefier Clarke one, although I've had not a vat voucher :(
I asked for other things for Christmas, this is a present to myself :)
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Trouble is I don't think the batteries I have fit, they look different from ones I have. (On Matika)
I'm swinging more to the beefier Clarke one, although I've had not a vat voucher :(
I asked for other things for Christmas, this is a present to myself :)
Thing to do then, is search tools that fit your set, if not done already...?
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Trouble is I don't think the batteries I have fit, they look different from ones I have. (On Matika)
I'm swinging more to the beefier Clarke one, although I've had not a vat voucher :(
I asked for other things for Christmas, this is a present to myself :)
Thing to do then, is search tools that fit your set, if not done already...?
Problem is my current set is a rather budget drill battery set, it suits my needs though. But I don't think those batteries are man enough. :(
What puts me off Clarke setup is I remember it being quite large & heavy, compared to your one. Which I thought was considerably lighter.
Tbh your setup is exactly what I'd like, but I think your setup was around £200?
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Trouble is I don't think the batteries I have fit, they look different from ones I have. (On Matika)
I'm swinging more to the beefier Clarke one, although I've had not a vat voucher :(
I asked for other things for Christmas, this is a present to myself :)
Thing to do then, is search tools that fit your set, if not done already...?
Problem is my current set is a rather budget drill battery set, it suits my needs though. But I don't think those batteries are man enough. :(
What puts me off Clarke setup is I remember it being quite large & heavy, compared to your one. Which I thought was considerably lighter.
Tbh your setup is exactly what I'd like, but I think your setup was around £200?
The original deal was £200 for the circular saw, drill, and torch with two li ion batteries and charger in a bag. To which I added the impact wrench body at extra cost. There are numerous heads/tool only additions that could be added. Chop saw, jig saw, impact driver(as opposed to the impact wrench we're discussing) to name a few.
But, my battery set has been discontinued, again in favour of the slide in design. So once my batteries die, that's it. Replace the lot. Hence I keep the batteries topped up.
The Clark is more powerful, but I can use mine in more scenarios due to the small body and light weight, like caliper carrier bolts etc, as you saw. Not sure the Clark would get in there. And I'm not sure it would undo them from bft anyway. So, again, crack them off with the t wrench, then wizzy the rest. T wrench to do up.
Clark one is too big to get on loose w bone bolts and again, not sure it will undo them from bft anyway. Too long and too heavy for donut bush bolts, but it would undo those.
Sadly, sounds like you have the wrong cordless set to start with :(
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How about this?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2 (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir220-24v-cordless-impact-wrench-2)
Tested here, came out ok. Comes with 2 batteries (Ni-Cad) so suits my use, case and some sockets.
Not bad for price?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/65787/clarke-cir220)
For the body size and price, the similar, slightly more expensive 450Nm one (which is what I had), seems to make more sense.
What sort of bolt torque setting will the 450nm undo? Does it do wheel bolts? And calliper carrier bolts? For example.
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Trouble is I don't think the batteries I have fit, they look different from ones I have. (On Matika)
I'm swinging more to the beefier Clarke one, although I've had not a vat voucher :(
I asked for other things for Christmas, this is a present to myself :)
Thing to do then, is search tools that fit your set, if not done already...?
Problem is my current set is a rather budget drill battery set, it suits my needs though. But I don't think those batteries are man enough. :(
What puts me off Clarke setup is I remember it being quite large & heavy, compared to your one. Which I thought was considerably lighter.
Tbh your setup is exactly what I'd like, but I think your setup was around £200?
The original deal was £200 for the circular saw, drill, and torch with two li ion batteries and charger in a bag. To which I added the impact wrench body at extra cost. There are numerous heads/tool only additions that could be added. Chop saw, jig saw, impact driver(as opposed to the impact wrench we're discussing) to name a few.
But, my battery set has been discontinued, again in favour of the slide in design. So once my batteries die, that's it. Replace the lot. Hence I keep the batteries topped up.
The Clark is more powerful, but I can use mine in more scenarios due to the small body and light weight, like caliper carrier bolts etc, as you saw. Not sure the Clark would get in there. And I'm not sure it would undo them from bft anyway. So, again, crack them off with the t wrench, then wizzy the rest. T wrench to do up.
Clark one is too big to get on loose w bone bolts and again, not sure it will undo them from bft anyway. Too long and too heavy for donut bush bolts, but it would undo those.
Sadly, sounds like you have the wrong cordless set to start with :(
I just checked, none of my current Makita stuff will fit the impact sets, my stuff is not 18v. So I'm starting from scratch.
Matika set, with batteries ect more like £350. Not really what I want to spend, given what is on the horizon.
Clarke one fits price range, but not sure on how useful it would actually be. :-\
Where did you source your set from?
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Screw fix.
But the deal, I found out two years later, was to clear the old battery type stock to make way for the new slide on type. And they don't seem to have that particular set, although there are others.
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=Hitachi+kits&fh_view_size=20
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And the body only
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Hitachi-WR18DL-1-2-Cordless-18V-Battery-Impact-Wrench-18-Volt-WR18DLP4-HXP-/360772936939
Actually, I need to check that is correct when I get home.
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Does it do wheel bolts?
Depends how long they have been on, generally shifts them if only recently been off, no matter on state of charge. If they've been on a while, the batteries need to have recently come off the charger.
The reason I'd replace it is I have a spare charger and battery for it, and because its "only" around £100ish on VAT free. Its a Sealey device.
I'm tempted to get a smaller bodied one as well, for the extra flexibility, but a lot of the smaller bodied ones I looked at when I bought mine were poor from a power point of view, and were (with batts/chargers) the wrong side of £200
The Snap-Off big boy is desired, due to its genuine power and trigger controled speed, but the cost makes it difficult to justify.
As you point out, ShitFix cordless drill deals are usually to shift old stock, and that invariably means an obselete battery/charger.
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This site has the Hitachi body, and the sealey wrenches.
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/cordless-impact-wrenches-b221
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This is tempting for the money...
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467)
386Nm + 2 batteries :o
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This is tempting for the money...
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467)
386Nm + 2 batteries :o
Any other tools to go with at set?
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not sure :-\
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This is tempting for the money...
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467)
386Nm + 2 batteries :o
Quite tempted meself, but can't ascertain if it has a 'progressive' trigger or on/off (if ya get my drift)? :-\
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This is tempting for the money...
http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467 (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-cp1950-cordless-impact-wrench-19.2v-1-2sq-drive-285lb.ft-with-2-batteries-p58467)
386Nm + 2 batteries :o
Quite tempted meself, but can't ascertain if it has a 'progressive' trigger or on/off (if ya get my drift)? :-\
Yeah know what you mean, you really do need that. Having said that, Gixers one is just all or nothing, you just have to "stab" the trigger to do a quick spin up.
Thing is with that sealey, is again size. Looks similar to Clarke one, which is a tad large. Which reduces it's usefulness :-\ :(
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For me, it would need to do wheel bolts, as that is the most comon thing that gets done. (and really useful to make things easier) It says 386Nm, wheel bolts are what, 110/100Nm?
Can it do it in the real world? :-\
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Here it is from alternative supplier:
http://www.tooled-up.com/product/sealey-cp1950-19.2v-cordless-impact-wrench-1-2-square-drive-285lb.ft-2-batteries/186920/
Seems that it does indeed have the 'progressive' trigger action :y
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Nice find Seth, and good to know, it's considerbally more though in that 'sale' :o
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Whilst it's fairly large-bodied, your basic requirements are the same as mine, tunnie!
Am quite tempted to source one from Toolstop ... best have a word with Mrs Seth first though ... I reckon ???
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Whilst it's fairly large-bodied, your basic requirements are the same as mine, tunnie!
Am quite tempted to source one from Toolstop ... best have a word with Mrs Seth first though ... I reckon ???
Only one left in stock at Toolstop's Amazon store. Guessed there's be a catch ... :(
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Think it's about the best you can get for the money, anything smaller is going to be a lot more money :(
Extremely tempted :)
Whilst it's fairly large-bodied, your basic requirements are the same as mine, tunnie!
Am quite tempted to source one from Toolstop ... best have a word with Mrs Seth first though ... I reckon ???
Only one left in stock at Toolstop's Amazon store. Guessed there's be a catch ... :(
Can you not buy direct? I just hit add to basket (but not actually bought) on their own site?
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Hummm Clark one is rated a tad more @ 450Nm, but only one battery. At Vat free price that is very tempting
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir450-24v-high-torque-cordless-impact?da=1&TC=SRC-impact%20wrench (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir450-24v-high-torque-cordless-impact?da=1&TC=SRC-impact%20wrench)
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Think it's about the best you can get for the money, anything smaller is going to be a lot more money :(
Extremely tempted :)
Can you not buy direct? I just hit add to basket (but not actually bought) on their own site?
Highly likely tunnie, though am minded that this may well be the last one that they have in stock at this excellent price.
Shall I ... shan't I? Decisions ... decisions ... :-[
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Hummm Clark one is rated a tad more @ 450Nm, but only one battery. At Vat free price that is very tempting
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir450-24v-high-torque-cordless-impact?da=1&TC=SRC-impact%20wrench (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cir450-24v-high-torque-cordless-impact?da=1&TC=SRC-impact%20wrench)
Gets favourable reviews ... though doesn't state if it has progressive trigger action :(
Otherwise, that ticks all the boxes here too! :y
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Cheaper than Sealey too, if you get with Vat free. Would one battery be enough :-\
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Cheaper than Sealey too, if you get with Vat free. Would one battery be enough :-\
Should imagine so tunnie. After all, I'd imagine that you'll not be using it intensively. Bit of planning before you start a job should see you through OK ... IMHO ;)
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Cheaper than Sealey too, if you get with Vat free. Would one battery be enough :-\
Should imagine so tunnie. After all, I'd imagine that you'll not be using it intensively. Bit of planning before you start a job should see you through OK ... IMHO ;)
I might have to ask little fatty nicely, as I've not been given a vat free code :(
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Will you be shopping online Tunnie?
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Can it do it in the real world? :-\
Unlikely, seeing as the Sealey/Clarke 450Nm one struggles unless battery is tip-top.
Check the states for Makita ones that fit your batts, I reckon thats your best bet. And accept you have to crack wheelbolts first.
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As said earlier, my Clarke is a Sealey 2400 (I think), and no progressive trigger
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If your main use will be for wheels, then a cordless impact is an expensive luxury. Its real use is for large bolts, such as on suspension, pullers or spring compressors.
The torque rating seems to be a 'multiply it by a wishful thinking amount' as wheelnuts aren't that tight, but many of 200nm rated wrenches struggle with them. Small tools have smaller, low capacity batteries; large ones work better but take up more space. Battery quality is critical, as is motor efficiency. The CP3002 Sealey one I had worked OK for about a year, but its effectiveness tailed off quickly after that. A new battery was almost as much as a new tool, so I used it until it stopped working.
We've been skirting around this for a while, but the best advice is buy a tool that you already have the batteries and charger for. Or, start from scratch, and buy the system that has the most useful tools available to you. I bought into the Ryobi One+ last year as a drill, angle grinder, impact wrench and small vac that share batteries are very handy for small, off the cuff jobs. The grinder works well, when I want to cut/grind a small thing(bolt, short weld, rusty patch etc), but it's not up to a full sill replacement which is when I'll get the corded tool out . I'm tempted by the jigsaw too, as all of my use for such a tool are for small jobs - MDF hammerforms for example.
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Will you be shopping online Tunnie?
Not sure
Can it do it in the real world? :-\
Unlikely, seeing as the Sealey/Clarke 450Nm one struggles unless battery is tip-top.
Check the states for Makita ones that fit your batts, I reckon thats your best bet. And accept you have to crack wheelbolts first.
I think the batteries I have cannot fit any of the impact wrenches :-\
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I need to check but I think mine are 12v :-\
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Got a vat free code here if you need it Mark.
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Got a vat free code here if you need it Mark.
Ooo thanks very much :y
Might take you up on that, as the Clarke one is tempting :)
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I have the sealy one, has never failed to undo anybolt on the omega, eg rear bearing nut,its been dropped,kicked and got damp, the only problem i encountered was the charger doesn't like falling from the bench onto the workshop floor with a battery in.. But found one on ebay for £30 :y
yes the snap off ones are good so is the new mag tools one, but its the old do i need one or is it i just want one,, i looked at corded but do get called out by friends n family,so cordless was chosen.