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Title: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 December 2013, 17:46:41
My old cooker is about 15years old and is falling to bits....

So suggestions .....

It has to be ceramic hob (my old cooker was solid plates and its these that are falling apart)
Cannot be any wider than 55cm
Must be able to be used on a 30amp breaker (too much work involved to upgrade the cable)
My budget is no more than £300

Been doing a search about and this seems to fit the bill....

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/cooking/cookers/electric-cookers/beko-bdvc563aw-electric-ceramic-cooker-white-14698890-pdt.html?gclid=CKem5_761bsCFSYHwwodvjcAIQ&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!31577813964!!!g!64556546484!&ef_id=WjxQCwz1MxkAABsB:20131229173043:s#longDesc

I also like the idea that currys will deliver free and take the old one away free too
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: MR MISTER on 29 December 2013, 17:54:05
Yep, that looks like a cooker  :y
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Rog on 29 December 2013, 17:55:07
My old cooker is about 15years old and is falling to bits....



So is mine, but my Mrs is much older than that  :-X     :-X
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 December 2013, 17:59:48
Yep, that looks like a cooker  :y

Glad to see your on the ball tonight Steve......nothing gets past you  :y

Tho are you sure its not Dr Who's tardis in disguise?  :-\
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 December 2013, 18:01:31
My old cooker is about 15years old and is falling to bits....



So is mine, but my Mrs is much older than that  :-X     :-X

Stemo.....txt Rog's mrs to tell her what he posted  ;D
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: MR MISTER on 29 December 2013, 18:04:52
My old cooker is about 15years old and is falling to bits....



So is mine, but my Mrs is much older than that  :-X     :-X

Stemo.....txt Rog's mrs to tell her what he posted  ;D
She's not speaking to me, reckons I just used her. Women!
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: AndyRoid on 29 December 2013, 19:49:50

Must be able to be used on a 30amp breaker (too much work involved to upgrade the cable)
That gives you a maximum load of 6.9 KW, more than enough to play with although I hope the cable that supplies the cooker is at least 4mm² if you intend to pull more than 4.5 KW continuously.
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: martin42 on 29 December 2013, 19:58:20
Cooker is so old fashioned,just pick up phone and call for a take away  :y :y
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 30 December 2013, 06:39:51

Must be able to be used on a 30amp breaker (too much work involved to upgrade the cable)
That gives you a maximum load of 6.9 KW, more than enough to play with although I hope the cable that supplies the cooker is at least 4mm² if you intend to pull more than 4.5 KW continuously.

Dont know tbh, all i know it goes from the 30amp circuit breaker in the cupboard under the  stairs......goes upstairs, then runs under a bedroom floor (which i use as an office and theres too much junk in there to move out to get the carpet/floorboards up) then pops out of the kitchen ceiling to the cooker point. Tho guess it would be printed on the pvc of the cable....must have a looksey .....
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 December 2013, 06:55:59
Tho guess it would be printed on the pvc of the cable....must have a looksey .....
The size won't be printed on the cable, but the "de facto" standard for wiring a cooker point is to use 6mm² cable so I expect you'll be fine.
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 30 December 2013, 07:23:47
Tho guess it would be printed on the pvc of the cable....must have a looksey .....
The size won't be printed on the cable, but the "de facto" standard for wiring a cooker point is to use 6mm² cable so I expect you'll be fine.

Is that the size for a 45amp breaker too? I remember a few years ago, when my mum and dad had a new cooker installed, the electrician declared the 30amp breaker and cable wasnt upto the job for the big double oven jobbie they had bought.....and changed the cable and fitted a 45amp breaker.
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 December 2013, 17:52:09
Tho guess it would be printed on the pvc of the cable....must have a looksey .....
The size won't be printed on the cable, but the "de facto" standard for wiring a cooker point is to use 6mm² cable so I expect you'll be fine.

Is that the size for a 45amp breaker too? I remember a few years ago, when my mum and dad had a new cooker installed, the electrician declared the 30amp breaker and cable wasnt upto the job for the big double oven jobbie they had bought.....and changed the cable and fitted a 45amp breaker.

Yes and no.

A few years ago a 45A breaker was considered acceptable providing that certain conditions were met, these days it's a different story and a 45A breaker would generally only be used if the circuit was run in 10mm² T&E.
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 30 December 2013, 18:11:15
Tho guess it would be printed on the pvc of the cable....must have a looksey .....
The size won't be printed on the cable, but the "de facto" standard for wiring a cooker point is to use 6mm² cable so I expect you'll be fine.

Is that the size for a 45amp breaker too? I remember a few years ago, when my mum and dad had a new cooker installed, the electrician declared the 30amp breaker and cable wasnt upto the job for the big double oven jobbie they had bought.....and changed the cable and fitted a 45amp breaker.

Yes and no.

A few years ago a 45A breaker was considered acceptable providing that certain conditions were met, these days it's a different story and a 45A breaker would generally only be used if the circuit was run in 10mm² T&E.

Oks....thanks for the info  :y .....bearing in mind the old cooker never tripped the breaker or melted the cable....i think i should be ok....i did see read somewhere on the tinternet that the cooker in question is rated at 32 amps .... but living on my own and having occasional friends around....when am i going to have all 4 rings and both ovens/or grill on at the same time....er never i reckon  :-\
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 December 2013, 19:37:18
but living on my own and having occasional friends around....when am i going to have all 4 rings and both ovens/or grill on at the same time....er never i reckon  :-\

That's our good friend diversity at work  ;)

Even if you did have a 32A cooker running flat out on a 32A breaker, you wouldn't come close to tripping it unless the cooker developed a fault.


PS,

If you want to remove the backplate to the cooker point and take a pic (macro mode is good) of the cable with a ruler or some other such form of measurement across the width of the cable, I reckon I could confirm the size from that.
Title: Re: New Cooker time....
Post by: r1 on 30 December 2013, 22:08:37
before buying go to morrisons and buy gift cards and save money on petrol. :y :y