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Title: Huge train fare hike
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 June 2008, 14:32:55
Just to take the biscuit... in the last month I have left in my job.

My daily train fare from Cardiff to Gloucester has gone up,  from £11.40 to £17.45.

That's another £120/month  >:(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 02 June 2008, 14:54:31
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Just to take the biscuit... in the last month I have left in my job.

My daily train fare from Cardiff to Gloucester has gone up,  from £11.40 to £17.45.

That's another £120/month  >:(

How far is it?

I pay £368 for my monthly train ticket to London, which includes tube.

Its around 65 miles each way.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 14:56:56
Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 02 June 2008, 14:59:52
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2008, 15:04:48
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Just to take the biscuit... in the last month I have left in my job.

My daily train fare from Cardiff to Gloucester has gone up,  from £11.40 to £17.45.

That's another £120/month  >:(

How far is it?

I pay £368 for my monthly train ticket to London, which includes tube.

Its around 65 miles each way.

my weekly travel costs are about £100 a month, which is nice
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 02 June 2008, 15:09:16
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Just to take the biscuit... in the last month I have left in my job.

My daily train fare from Cardiff to Gloucester has gone up,  from £11.40 to £17.45.

That's another £120/month  >:(

How far is it?

I pay £368 for my monthly train ticket to London, which includes tube.

Its around 65 miles each way.

my weekly travel costs are about £100 a month, which is nice

I would love it to be £100 a month, its also a looong way to go.

But the job that i do, i can't get back home.

Even though its expensive the pay makes up for it.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 June 2008, 15:13:34
Why such a rise?

Is it first class?

Have they laid on a special train?

Is it a comfy loco hauled train or a engine under he floor noisy job
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 15:20:41
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Why such a rise?

Is it first class?

Have they laid on a special train?

Is it a comfy loco hauled train or a engine under he floor noisy job

Do you still have to sit next to someone who smells / blathers constantly on a mobile phone?

 ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 02 June 2008, 15:24:04
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Why such a rise?

Is it first class?

Have they laid on a special train?

Is it a comfy loco hauled train or a engine under he floor noisy job

Do you still have to sit next to someone who smells / blathers constantly on a mobile phone?

 ;)

Kevin

I use Chiltern Railways, they don't get the fast line, so its actually fairly slow, good point is though is not many people use it.

ALL trains have aircon, and in 10 months of commuting, only had 1 train with failed air-con.

The slightly newer ones have powerpoints at the each seat and laptop designed tables.

Its usually very, very good, hardly anyone makes a sound! Most mornings its silent on board!  :o
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 June 2008, 15:29:13
No, not first class, nothing has changed apart from the fact you can no longer get a standard day return "on the day" :(

The trains themselves are not too bad. They are the Turbostar 170 2/3 carriage 100mph jobs that were run by Central Trains on the Cardiff-Nottingham route for some time. They are now run by CrossCountry (Arriva).

Another lost benefit - the old Central Trains units had de-commissioned first class, so you could get really comfy seats for normal fare.

XC are now capitalising on this though and re-instating first class.

Still better than Arriva trains wales though, in the respect that ATW are running the old class 140 trains, they feel like they should be in a museum!!!

Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 15:35:34
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ALL trains have aircon, and in 10 months of commuting, only had 1 train with failed air-con.

Ahh, I wish I could find trains with failed air con. The slam doors we used to have were fine. Too hot? Open the rather window.

Now we get these new Siemens jobs with the fans permanently wired to maximum speed and maximum noise, and really bright lighting. Half an hour on the train and your eyeballs are dried out and you have a headache. Not to mention the stupid announcements that repeat the same message every couple of minutes. It would drive me insane if I had to commute.

IMHO, these trains are more suitable for metro lines where you hop on them for a few minutes at a time. Surely something more comfortable is in order when you've got 1h20? (It was only just over an hour on a slam-door. They're clearly slower as well.)

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 02 June 2008, 15:37:40
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No, not first class, nothing has changed apart from the fact you can no longer get a standard day return "on the day" :(

The trains themselves are not too bad. They are the Turbostar 170 2/3 carriage 100mph jobs that were run by Central Trains on the Cardiff-Nottingham route for some time. They are now run by CrossCountry (Arriva).

Another lost benefit - the old Central Trains units had de-commissioned first class, so you could get really comfy seats for normal fare.

XC are now capitalising on this though and re-instating first class.

Still better than Arriva trains wales though, in the respect that ATW are running the old class 140 trains, they feel like they should be in a museum!!!


They run the same here, trouble is only 25 miles of the 65 mile run can they actually do 100!  >:(

I even got geeky and wipped out the Crackberry which has build in GPS, according to it, on 1 section we did 103mph  8-)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 June 2008, 15:48:28
James

I assume the price rise is due to the poor exchange rate between the pound and the Welsh grote..... ::)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 02 June 2008, 16:26:06
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ALL trains have aircon, and in 10 months of commuting, only had 1 train with failed air-con.

Ahh, I wish I could find trains with failed air con. The slam doors we used to have were fine. Too hot? Open the rather window.

Now we get these new Siemens jobs with the fans permanently wired to maximum speed and maximum noise, and really bright lighting. Half an hour on the train and your eyeballs are dried out and you have a headache. Not to mention the stupid announcements that repeat the same message every couple of minutes. It would drive me insane if I had to commute.

IMHO, these trains are more suitable for metro lines where you hop on them for a few minutes at a time. Surely something more comfortable is in order when you've got 1h20? (It was only just over an hour on a slam-door. They're clearly slower as well.)

Kevin

All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Olympia5776 on 02 June 2008, 16:38:02
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Just to take the biscuit... in the last month I have left in my job.

My daily train fare from Cardiff to Gloucester has gone up,  from £11.40 to £17.45.

That's another £120/month  >:(
I guess it's down to the rise and rise in the price of oil, but an increase as large as that is outrageous....
Don

Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 16:40:05
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All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)

Well, yes and no... (Watercress line is at the end of my back garden!).

But yes, I feel more at home in the carriages, although on the last "Real Ale Train" I went on the lighting in the carriage didn't work at all. Beer still tasted Ok so not a trajedy.

I used to have a nose round "Bittern" on a regular basis when in the workshops. Saw it come out of hibernation about a year ago IIRC. Looks fantastic.

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 June 2008, 16:42:15
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No, not first class, nothing has changed apart from the fact you can no longer get a standard day return "on the day" :(

The trains themselves are not too bad. They are the Turbostar 170 2/3 carriage 100mph jobs that were run by Central Trains on the Cardiff-Nottingham route for some time. They are now run by CrossCountry (Arriva).

Another lost benefit - the old Central Trains units had de-commissioned first class, so you could get really comfy seats for normal fare.

XC are now capitalising on this though and re-instating first class.

Still better than Arriva trains wales though, in the respect that ATW are running the old class 140 trains, they feel like they should be in a museum!!!


They run the same here, trouble is only 25 miles of the 65 mile run can they actually do 100!  >:(

I even got geeky and wipped out the Crackberry which has build in GPS, according to it, on 1 section we did 103mph  8-)


Hmm well I remember a trip to Swindon watching the speedo on a old bus engined DMU - rev counter deep in the red, top gear and speedo around 90.

Another Gloucester Swindon run I did count the mile posts at over 70 with a Castle on the front when they still had a 60 limit.

Had a few 100mph runs behind 50s they shift, especially one couple which were temporary uprated, an extra 300 - 400bhp makes them shift.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 02 June 2008, 18:27:53
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All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)

Well, yes and no... (Watercress line is at the end of my back garden!).

But yes, I feel more at home in the carriages, although on the last "Real Ale Train" I went on the lighting in the carriage didn't work at all. Beer still tasted Ok so not a trajedy.

I used to have a nose round "Bittern" on a regular basis when in the workshops. Saw it come out of hibernation about a year ago IIRC. Looks fantastic.

Kevin

I am so envious of you having that at the back of your garden!! :y

Still, I would have to time putting the washing out to avoid the smuts! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2008, 19:02:45
Sadly, my commuting costs are going to rise by £1500+ per year soon  >:(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 02 June 2008, 19:05:45
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No, not first class, nothing has changed apart from the fact you can no longer get a standard day return "on the day" :(

The trains themselves are not too bad. They are the Turbostar 170 2/3 carriage 100mph jobs that were run by Central Trains on the Cardiff-Nottingham route for some time. They are now run by CrossCountry (Arriva).

Another lost benefit - the old Central Trains units had de-commissioned first class, so you could get really comfy seats for normal fare.

XC are now capitalising on this though and re-instating first class.

Still better than Arriva trains wales though, in the respect that ATW are running the old class 140 trains, they feel like they should be in a museum!!!


So presumably you can still get a standard day return the day before you wish to travel.........and i assume you know when your going to work....so can you not buy a standard day return for the following day when you return in the afternoon/evening  :-/
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 June 2008, 19:10:45
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All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)

Well, yes and no... (Watercress line is at the end of my back garden!).

But yes, I feel more at home in the carriages, although on the last "Real Ale Train" I went on the lighting in the carriage didn't work at all. Beer still tasted Ok so not a trajedy.

I used to have a nose round "Bittern" on a regular basis when in the workshops. Saw it come out of hibernation about a year ago IIRC. Looks fantastic.

Kevin


You said this before - so when I get round to doing the MHR I'll have to visit
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 02 June 2008, 21:54:32
martin and lizzie my old man could sit an talk to you guys all day about trains....he started as fireman on the old LMS at bushbury sheds...
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 22:00:36
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All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)

Well, yes and no... (Watercress line is at the end of my back garden!).

But yes, I feel more at home in the carriages, although on the last "Real Ale Train" I went on the lighting in the carriage didn't work at all. Beer still tasted Ok so not a trajedy.

I used to have a nose round "Bittern" on a regular basis when in the workshops. Saw it come out of hibernation about a year ago IIRC. Looks fantastic.

Kevin

I am so envious of you having that at the back of your garden!! :y

Still, I would have to time putting the washing out to avoid the smuts! ;D ;D

Not noticed a smut problem, TBH (ohh, er!). Our house is on a pretty steep incline so they're either going full regulator (and have been for a mile or so, so boiler pretty clean) or they're hissing downhill with the safety valve doing its' nut. ;D

It's in a 30' cutting at the back of the garden so you strugle to see them. Then again, the tourists can't see you either. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 22:01:26
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All you can do Kevin is hope that one day the Mid-Hants, 'Watercress Line' Railway will take over the line up to London from Alton! ;)

All carragies will be guaranteed not to have a/c, will be steam heated in winter, and you will be pulled by beautiful steam engines like West Country Class 'Bodmin' 34016, or A4 Pacific 'Bittern' 60019 or Merchant Navy ''Canadian Pacific' 35005 or.......... ooh what fantasies!!! ;D ;D :y

Now that would be romantic and so enjoyable, as long as you do not mind a bit of soot on your clothes every so often! ;D ;)

Well, yes and no... (Watercress line is at the end of my back garden!).

But yes, I feel more at home in the carriages, although on the last "Real Ale Train" I went on the lighting in the carriage didn't work at all. Beer still tasted Ok so not a trajedy.

I used to have a nose round "Bittern" on a regular basis when in the workshops. Saw it come out of hibernation about a year ago IIRC. Looks fantastic.

Kevin


You said this before - so when I get round to doing the MHR I'll have to visit

By all means. All OOF'ers always welcome. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Richie London on 02 June 2008, 22:22:21
i think it was 54 quid when i worked in preston for a return booking on the day coming back in 2 weeks, book 4 weeks in advance it was 15 quid i think. :-?
 didnt bother most of time just stayed up there and got hammered on my weekends off, worked out cheaper too in the long run :) :)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: JiMbOb789 on 02 June 2008, 22:28:24
 >:(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Golfbuddy on 02 June 2008, 22:38:44
Sounds a bit steep to me. Six of us went to St Ives on bank holiday Monday for £18 return for the lot of us.

Perhaps get a job in Cornwall James?  :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 02 June 2008, 22:54:38
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martin and lizzie my old man could sit an talk to you guys all day about trains....he started as fireman on the old LMS at bushbury sheds...

Your Dad is a hero in Steam enthusiast circles, and deserves to be! :y

He must have some wonderful memories and stories to tell Bertie. :y :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 02 June 2008, 22:57:26
39 years as a driver till a heart attack took him off the main line and put him on shunting...took early retirement/redundacy when they privatised B/R...
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Vamps on 02 June 2008, 22:59:14
I remember, as a child, standing on the railway bridge and leaning over and getting a face full of smoke when the engine went through.

Strange, I know. :-/
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 02 June 2008, 23:09:43
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I remember, as a child, standing on the railway bridge and leaning over and getting a face full of smoke when the engine went through.

Strange, I know. :-/

Ahhh!  Yes, a real pleasure that was as a child; like feeling the warmth of the engine as it passed, let alone going on the footplate with my Dad holding my hand whilst talking to the driver and fireman :y Happy days! :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Entwood on 02 June 2008, 23:15:35
How times have changed ....  :(

I spent many hours as a kid down at the sidings, often getting a ride on the footplate, mostly just shunting stuff, but ocasionally we'd get a treat and the chance of a ride on something decent ... :)

A good day was a run to Bristol or Cardiff ... and a mug of the firemans tea .. and when we got back .. usually quite late having been out all day .. my parents just asked "where did you get to today??" ...  :y :y

Can you see that happening now ??? Police would be called and the driver/fireman accused of kidnapping/perversion/rape or whatever :(

I pity kids .. they don't get the chance to learn about life these days .. its all wrapped in cotton wool stuff. :(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2008, 00:05:14
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I pity kids .. they don't get the chance to learn about life these days .. its all wrapped in cotton wool stuff. :(

Agreed !!
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 03 June 2008, 16:05:39
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How times have changed ....  :(

I spent many hours as a kid down at the sidings, often getting a ride on the footplate, mostly just shunting stuff, but ocasionally we'd get a treat and the chance of a ride on something decent ... :)

A good day was a run to Bristol or Cardiff ... and a mug of the firemans tea .. and when we got back .. usually quite late having been out all day .. my parents just asked "where did you get to today??" ...  :y :y

Can you see that happening now ??? Police would be called and the driver/fireman accused of kidnapping/perversion/rape or whatever :(

I pity kids .. they don't get the chance to learn about life these days .. its all wrapped in cotton wool stuff. :(

You are right Entwood; Health & Safety Laws would prohibit that fun now.  Bloody shame! :'( :'(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Richie London on 03 June 2008, 16:11:41
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I remember, as a child, standing on the railway bridge and leaning over and getting a face full of smoke when the engine went through.

Strange, I know. :-/

the railway children rings a bell ol timer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 June 2008, 16:11:50
Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 16:13:21
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 June 2008, 16:15:03
So Tunnie is on well over 40K per year and still moans hes skint with no major overheads...........or is he just bad at maths  ;)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 16:21:15
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So Tunnie is on well over 40K per year and still moans hes skint with no major overheads...........or is he just bad at maths  ;)
Come on Tunnie, fess up as to where it's all going.  Regular trips to Spearmint Rhino?  lol
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 16:22:47
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate...

They're always seen to show the kids round at the watercress line. Speaking of kids (big ones) I bought my dad a 1/2 day of steam engine driving a couple of years back.

Doubt you'd get on the "footplate" of anything on the main line though.

Kevin

Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 June 2008, 16:23:29
Me and a friend went to an SVR Diesel gala and we got drunk and missed the last train back - so we hitch hiked from Bridgenorth to Kidderminster, most of the way in D4 Great Gable rear cab.

Train rides.

Done a Castle around Gloucester shed in GWR150, a 31 at Newton Abbott, 2 060 industrial, 1 class 14 DH on the GWR. And when I was involved with coach restoration I rode in a GWR autocoach while it was shunted.

I have baby sat a 50 while a friend who worked there was getting food
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 June 2008, 16:25:09
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...


Is there anything you don't know ;D ;D

Ridden behind Leander but not cabbed - got some nice late at night pictures from a rail tour through a local station.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 03 June 2008, 16:26:10
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...

You did well there Mark!

Due to H&S, past nasty accidents on the footplate and insurance issues, it is very rare for any railway to allow 'unauthorized' personnel on their engines.  But unofficial 'visits' must still go on somewhere!

I bet you and your lad had a wonderfull time though, and he may well remember that for the rest of his life as I have done since a similar experience with my father as a 4 year old girl. :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 June 2008, 16:35:27
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...


Is there anything you don't know ;D ;D

Ridden behind Leander but not cabbed - got some nice late at night pictures from a rail tour through a local station.

A good friend of my Grandad had a part share in Leander back then......got a pic somehwere but wont put it up as I was only about 8!

Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 June 2008, 16:38:09
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...

You did well there Mark!

Due to H&S, past nasty accidents on the footplate and insurance issues, it is very rare for any railway to allow 'unauthorized' personnel on their engines.  But unofficial 'visits' must still go on somewhere!

I bet you and your lad had a wonderfull time though, and he may well remember that for the rest of his life as I have done since a similar experience with my father as a 4 year old girl. :y


He does.....interestingly when I looked closely at Oliver Cromwell I thought to myself, the great train designers of the like of Stanier and Gresley would never have allowed that design to go out.

It had a visable low slung steam injector (interesting to look at and I guess good from a maintenance perspective) and some rather randomly placed feed and steam pipes......not in keeping with the designs of the hay day and did affect the visual appearance some what.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: FRE07962128 on 03 June 2008, 16:45:29
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...

You did well there Mark!

Due to H&S, past nasty accidents on the footplate and insurance issues, it is very rare for any railway to allow 'unauthorized' personnel on their engines.  But unofficial 'visits' must still go on somewhere!

I bet you and your lad had a wonderfull time though, and he may well remember that for the rest of his life as I have done since a similar experience with my father as a 4 year old girl. :y


He does.....interestingly when I looked closely at Oliver Cromwell I thought to myself, the great train designers of the like of Stanier and Gresley would never have allowed that design to go out.

It had a visable low slung steam injector (interesting to look at and I guess good from a maintenance perspective) and some rather randomly placed feed and steam pipes......not in keeping with the designs of the hay day and did affect the visual appearance some what.

Indeed. Efficiency and standardization was by then the objective to make cleaning and maintenance far easier in days of climbing costs and a shortage of men willing to join the railways and work in the pre-war conditions of the average Shed or on the then average loco.

The age of steam was coming to an end :'( , but the last 'Standard' classes of engines were some of the most efficient in terms of steam production v. cost of fuel useage and maintenance ever witnessed on UK railways. :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 03 June 2008, 16:53:43
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Auto Addict on 03 June 2008, 16:58:45
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.

Capitalist p*g ;) ;D
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 03 June 2008, 17:02:47
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.

Capitalist p*g ;) ;D

Can you think of a better way to save for a 20/30K deposit for a house?  >:(  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 17:05:47
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Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.
Lucky B*stard! I'm on-call 24x7x52 (and it feels like 24x7x52xInfinity!)
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 03 June 2008, 17:11:44
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Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.
Lucky B*stard! I'm on-call 24x7x52 (and it feels like 24x7x52xInfinity!)

Used to be 3 in the team i work in, so it was 1 week in 3, now he has left its 1 in 2, getting a new guy in but looking at 2/3 months training before he is ready.

I found out what i get paid is super low for on-call rates compared to others.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Auto Addict on 03 June 2008, 17:13:11
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.

Capitalist p*g ;) ;D

Can you think of a better way to save for a 20/30K deposit for a house?  >:(  ;)  ;D

Capitalist P%G >:( ;) ;D
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: tunnie on 03 June 2008, 17:16:04
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.

Capitalist p*g ;) ;D

Can you think of a better way to save for a 20/30K deposit for a house?  >:(  ;)  ;D

Capitalist P%G >:( ;) ;D

Says the capitalist sitting in his OWN home!  >:(
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Auto Addict on 03 June 2008, 17:23:53
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Bu663r me!

I don't feel so bad about pouring petrol into the 3.2 now.  :o

Kevin

I know its not cheap  :'(

But at the end of the day, its only 15% of the money i take home, so not too fussed!  :)
So your take home pay is £2453.33?

Approx, yes.

I am 23, so fairly chuffed with where i am considering i was in special needs at school. For GCSE's i got mainly D's/ E's.... D in Maths Mark  ;)

Turned it around at college, went into I.T (was not allowed to do GCSE I.T) then onto Uni. My final year project, a mobile application for theme parks got me here.

Been taking home 2.0 - 2.5k net for the past few months, I am now on-call one week on/off, which has raised it considerablly.

Due to go back down once they recuirt another guy for our team, then my on-call sallary will go down to around 1.8k net.

Expenses? Mostly travel, £368 train, £72 car park ticket, £130/£150 in petrol. Just put new springs on the car, shocks soon, then wishbones so thats going to be a few quid.

£150 montly food bill, go snowboarding quite a bit thats £35 a pop + petrol £20, do that twice a month, beers after work, see films, all mounts up.

Saving between £500 & £1k each month, since the start of the year.

Capitalist p*g ;) ;D

Can you think of a better way to save for a 20/30K deposit for a house?  >:(  ;)  ;D

Capitalist P%G >:( ;) ;D

Says the capitalist sitting in his OWN home!  >:(

 :y
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 18:10:47
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Due to H&S, past nasty accidents on the footplate and insurance issues, it is very rare for any railway to allow 'unauthorized' personnel on their engines.  But unofficial 'visits' must still go on somewhere!

Speaking of H&S, one of my friends is a retired BR man who actually works for the Watercress line now. He saw the tail end of steam on the main lines and recalled the driver and fireman, on arriving at Waterloo on a hot afternoon, would emerge from the footplate dripping in sweat, run to the pub across the road and sink 4 or 5 pints of ale apiece before turning the train round and taking it back.  :o

Didn't have any random drink / drugs testing in those days, then? ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 June 2008, 18:27:05
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...


Is there anything you don't know ;D ;D

Ridden behind Leander but not cabbed - got some nice late at night pictures from a rail tour through a local station.

A good friend of my Grandad had a part share in Leander back then......got a pic somehwere but wont put it up as I was only about 8!


I've raised money for a 28xx and a Merchant Navy, also a few Diesels
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 June 2008, 18:29:44
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Maybe.....but pretty recently when visiting Loughborough and Oliver Cromwell was on show, my little 3 year old lad was allowed on the footplate whilst it was in the station and not long before then was allowed to sit in the drivers seat of a class 25 which was at the head of a rake of coaches with the engine running!

I still recall having a footplate ride on Leander at the Severn Valley Railway some 25 years ago...

You did well there Mark!

Due to H&S, past nasty accidents on the footplate and insurance issues, it is very rare for any railway to allow 'unauthorized' personnel on their engines.  But unofficial 'visits' must still go on somewhere!

I bet you and your lad had a wonderfull time though, and he may well remember that for the rest of his life as I have done since a similar experience with my father as a 4 year old girl. :y


He does.....interestingly when I looked closely at Oliver Cromwell I thought to myself, the great train designers of the like of Stanier and Gresley would never have allowed that design to go out.

It had a visable low slung steam injector (interesting to look at and I guess good from a maintenance perspective) and some rather randomly placed feed and steam pipes......not in keeping with the designs of the hay day and did affect the visual appearance some what.


The BR Standards were al designed for easy maintenance, no need for pits if possible (unlike the GWR).

That said the basic design takes the best of the various railways.

Did you know that Stanier started at Swindon and most of his locos are obvious descendants of GWR designs - yes the Black 5 is basically a Walcherts valve gear Hall
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 03 June 2008, 19:07:30
me old man used tell me stories of the old drivers getting drunk after running into euston and waterloo from wolvo low level and not being able to stand up let alone drive the loco back..... :o :o no disciplinaries in them days then???
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: theowletman on 04 June 2008, 12:53:28
Because trains are so popular they increase the fares to try and stop us using them!!! What a way to run a business.
Title: Re: Huge train fare hike
Post by: Albert1 on 04 June 2008, 13:48:34
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me old man used tell me stories of the old drivers getting drunk after running into euston and waterloo from wolvo low level and not being able to stand up let alone drive the loco back..... :o :o no disciplinaries in them days then???
I'm moving all these train related posts to the forum on www.OldDuffersAndTheirTrains.com

lol