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Title: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 06 January 2014, 18:01:03
Hi all - Happy new year

Been having a bit of trouble accessing certain internet sites recently and have discovered that my ISP (SKY) have put a restriction on, without prior notice, consultation or request.

I really do object to this  >:( >:(

The sites are the type that provide music/video etc, not porn  ::) so why should I/we be restricted to the sites THEY decide to allow us access to. Is this to ensure that we use just their services and their charges (free or not).

I am curious as to the good/varied opinions that are always expressed on here on this. Freedom of choice/use, legality etc etc

Also is your ISP doing the same, or not, as I am seriously considering changing because of this, and I want to to upgrade to fibre to stream more.

Phil
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: zirk on 06 January 2014, 18:06:04
Ring them up, tell them your over 18 and you want the restrictions lifted.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: Entwood on 06 January 2014, 18:16:05
Many sites are blocked by ALL ISP's under the anti-piracy laws, so changing ISP won't make any difference to those sites ... usually identifiable by the legal statement of blocking

http://www.siteblocked.org/piratebay.html?accessurl=MTk0LjcxLjEwNy44MQ==&urlclassname=cGlyYXRlIGJheQ==

being one example
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: tunnie on 06 January 2014, 18:18:00
What music sites? There is a move by all ISP's to block torrent sites and other sharing sites (easily got around though)
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: omegod on 06 January 2014, 18:29:09
Mine blocks a certain sharing site but easily accessed via proxy or mirror, all legal of course or I wouldn't mention it here!
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 06 January 2014, 19:39:00
OK

This music download site gets this response, and I think I understand why

http://blocked.nb.sky.com/?www.mp3raid.com (http://blocked.nb.sky.com/?www.mp3raid.com)

Thing is, for example, a guy in a pub offers you a cheap cd/dvd, you ask if it's copied, he says no and you purchase, only to find later it is illegally created and you destroy it  ;) . Who is wrong, the copier or the buyer. Same as if a site is wrongfully distributing copyrighted material should not the site be closed down instead of a forced sanction on my/our choice to break copyright or not, or are we just the easy target.  >:( >:(

Plus if it is easily got around what is the point  :o :o :o

Ring them up, tell them your over 18 and you want the restrictions lifted.

Being over 18 really has nothing to do with it, that is for porn and anyone is allowed to watch/download that if they want. Free to choose that's fine  :y
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 January 2014, 19:44:28
I'd vote with your feet. You've bought internet access, and that includes the sites uncle Rupert doesn't want you to use.

I don't recall ever seeing a site blocked by my ISP, but then I pay a little more and don't exactly push the boat out. ;)
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 06 January 2014, 19:50:41
I'd vote with your feet. You've bought internet access, and that includes the sites uncle Rupert doesn't want you to use.

I don't recall ever seeing a site blocked by my ISP, but then I pay a little more and don't exactly push the boat out. ;)

That's my intention  >:( >:(

Which one ? if you don't mind  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:14:03
OK

This music download site gets this response, and I think I understand why

http://blocked.nb.sky.com/?www.mp3raid.com (http://blocked.nb.sky.com/?www.mp3raid.com)

Thing is, for example, a guy in a pub offers you a cheap cd/dvd, you ask if it's copied, he says no and you purchase, only to find later it is illegally created and you destroy it  ;) . Who is wrong, the copier or the buyer. Same as if a site is wrongfully distributing copyrighted material should not the site be closed down instead of a forced sanction on my/our choice to break copyright or not, or are we just the easy target.  >:( >:(

Plus if it is easily got around what is the point  :o :o :o

Ring them up, tell them your over 18 and you want the restrictions lifted.

Being over 18 really has nothing to do with it, that is for porn and anyone is allowed to watch/download that if they want. Free to choose that's fine  :y
Can't see that. Sky will have been told to block that site or face a fine for contempt of court.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: Gaffers on 06 January 2014, 20:43:24
Such action by ISPs is pointless as those with the knowledge (or a little time to google how) can easily bypass any restrictions.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:44:55
Such action by ISPs is pointless as those with the knowledge (or a little time to google how) can easily bypass any restrictions.
Yes, but without sky's knowledge, so they are safe from litigation. That's all they are worried about.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: Gaffers on 06 January 2014, 20:50:30
Such action by ISPs is pointless as those with the knowledge (or a little time to google how) can easily bypass any restrictions.
Yes, but without sky's knowledge, so they are safe from litigation. That's all they are worried about.

Trust me, they know.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:51:20
Such action by ISPs is pointless as those with the knowledge (or a little time to google how) can easily bypass any restrictions.
Yes, but without sky's knowledge, so they are safe from litigation. That's all they are worried about.

Trust me, they know.
They know, but they're not responsible for it.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: AndyRoid on 07 January 2014, 08:05:33
Also is your ISP doing the same, or not, as I am seriously considering changing because of this, and I want to to upgrade to fibre to stream more.

MP3 Raid dot com is also blocked by VM, however I was in 10 seconds later using a proxy so no need to move to an ISP that has the balls to tell the government they can f**k themselves.
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: bigegg on 07 January 2014, 14:37:56
I don't know about any of these allegedly "illegal download sites", but I can confirm that the site mentioned by AndyRoid is NOT blocked on my plusnet business account.
Nor is redtube, madsextube, or youporn - so I am informed <whistles>
Title: Re: Broadband Restrictions
Post by: AndyRoid on 07 January 2014, 16:24:25
I don't know about any of these allegedly "illegal download sites", but I can confirm that the site mentioned by AndyRoid is NOT blocked on my plusnet business account.
Nor is redtube, madsextube, or youporn - so I am informed <whistles>

Same here.
VM will quite happily let my kids watch people beating and pissing on each other, but they will actively stop them from downloading a bit of music that MAY be potentially on offer illegally  ???