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Title: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 January 2014, 18:31:45
If I empty the piggy bank I can just about run to this. It's located about 10 miles from us.

However, only 3 months MOT scares the crap out of me. I really don't want to be looking at a huge bill come April.

CLS Merc.......any good?........or big trouble?


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Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Bigron on 06 January 2014, 18:38:01
Why not make a full MOT a condition of the sale? If the vendor is reluctant to agree, it probably tells you all you need to know......

Ron.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 January 2014, 18:41:24
CLS owners here http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php all seem impressed with them. Not the same technical help though that you  get here ....... standard answer to any/most questions is ............ take it to an independent and get codes read on Star (Merc version of TechII)

It look a lovely car ......... and it's not silver/grey/black  ;) .....not sure that I'd want to feed a 5.0 V8 though

What about a 320 diseasal version  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 January 2014, 18:44:03
Why not make a full MOT a condition of the sale? If the vendor is reluctant to agree, it probably tells you all you need to know......

Ron.


The thought did occur. I'd even be willing to pay. I can deal with losing £40 if the thing is riddled with expensive faults.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 January 2014, 18:45:40
CLS owners here http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php all seem impressed with them. Not the same technical help though that you  get here ....... standard answer to any/most questions is ............ take it to an independent and get codes read on Star (Merc version of TechII)

It look a lovely car ......... and it's not silver/grey/black  ;) .....not sure that I'd want to feed a 5.0 V8 though

What about a 320 diseasal version  ::) ::)


Thanks, Andy.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 18:59:06
That's a lot of car for the money. Dependant on the mot turning out ok, I would just buy it. Let's face it, if you give yourself enough time, you can talk yourself out of anything, and there will undoubtedly be folk telling you why you shouldn't have it.

If I was in the market for such a beast, that particular one would be high on my list. Good luck.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 19:05:21
If you'll take my advice, Opti, you'll go and at least have a look. What have you got to lose?
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 January 2014, 19:23:56
If you'll take my advice, Opti, you'll go and at least have a look. What have you got to lose?

£6995.......it was priced at £7295 last week. ;)

Mercedes design is usually staid to the point of being drab.

Personally, I think the styling on the CLS is pretty exciting  (for MB)  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 January 2014, 20:11:47
If you'll take my advice, Opti, you'll go and at least have a look. What have you got to lose?

£6995.......it was priced at £7295 last week. ;)

Mercedes design is usually staid to the point of being drab.

Personally, I think the styling on the CLS is pretty exciting  (for MB)  ;)

I'm waiting for the the CLS Shooting Brake (estate for the rest of us ) to be affordable (sod the fact it's not towbar-able  ::))
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 January 2014, 21:23:39
very nice..   :y   

but apply usual checks for paint, chasis geometry  and engine noises.. and drive it before saying good bye to your money ;D

and tyres .. they cost a lot ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 06 January 2014, 21:36:00
Bit of a Marmite car that  :-\ Unusual bendy shape in the middle  :o Plenty big enough engine though  :-*
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 21:42:35
Bit of a Marmite car that  :-\ Unusual bendy shape in the middle  :o Plenty big enough engine though  :-*
Banana car. ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Rods2 on 06 January 2014, 22:02:57
With a gravel drive, check sills and wheel arches carefully for stone chips and rust.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 January 2014, 01:28:28
If you like the look of it, and can afford to run it....

Does it have to be vets forearm colour though? :(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 January 2014, 12:18:20
I'd think that's suitable for the crunchy drive at Opti Towers!  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 12:45:42
Called at about nine yesterday evening.......but no reply. :'(

I'll try again today. :)

Would an offer of five grand (half a Daewoo  :-X :-X :-X) be too cheeky? ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 January 2014, 12:47:32
The thing that scares the hell out of me with Mercs is the repair costs plus they are far from the reliable old bus of years gone by.....

.....if your having to think twice about affording the purcahse price then running and maintaining one is going to be a stretch (490 a year just in road tax)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 12:51:57
The thing that scares the hell out of me with Mercs is the repair costs plus they are far from the reliable old bus of years gone by.....

.....if your having to think twice about affording the purcahse price then running and maintaining one is going to be a stretch (490 a year just in road tax)


Insurance should be okay at my age, and although the road tax is steep, I reckon can stretch to it.

I also agree that Mercedes are not the most reliable of cars.........and no better built than a Vauxhall.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 12:57:47
What to replace the Omega with is always a dilemma. ???......because even the newest are cracking on for eleven years old now. :'(

 
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 07 January 2014, 13:26:13
The thing that scares the hell out of me with Mercs is the repair costs plus they are far from the reliable old bus of years gone by.....

.....if your having to think twice about affording the purcahse price then running and maintaining one is going to be a stretch (490 a year just in road tax)

 
About the same price for one tyre on it  ::)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: aaronjb on 07 January 2014, 13:37:05
Why not go all out and get the CL63 AMG for Opti towers? They do make a lovely noise (and incredibly docile if you want to get the rear end swinging about)..
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 13:44:54
Why not go all out and get the CL63 AMG for Opti towers? They do make a lovely noise (and incredibly docile if you want to get the rear end swinging about)..

 Nice.....but I'm way to piss poor, Aaron. :'(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 07 January 2014, 13:50:04
The thing that scares the hell out of me with Mercs is the repair costs plus they are far from the reliable old bus of years gone by.....

.....if your having to think twice about affording the purcahse price then running and maintaining one is going to be a stretch (490 a year just in road tax)

 
About the same price for one tyre on it  ::)

But as your on a budget , remoulds will do  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 07 January 2014, 15:56:50
What to replace the Omega with is always a dilemma. ???......because even the newest are cracking on for eleven years old now. :'(

10 years, six months and counting .........

I don't know if this accurate - but from Wiki:

On 25 June 2003, the last Omega rolled out of the factory in Rüsselsheim.

So, even it was registered the next day - then it would be an 03 plate - many others were stored hence later registration dates.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 16:34:19
What to replace the Omega with is always a dilemma. ???......because even the newest are cracking on for eleven years old now. :'(

10 years, six months and counting .........

I don't know if this accurate - but from Wiki:

On 25 June 2003, the last Omega rolled out of the factory in Rüsselsheim.

So, even it was registered the next day - then it would be an 03 plate - many others were stored hence later registration dates.


Mine rolled off the production line in June 2002........but wasn't registered until 20th December 2003. :-X :-X :-X :-X

So.....18 months in a muddy field before the new owner got 'her' hands on it. :-\ :-\ :-\ Yes.....the first owner was a girlie. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 January 2014, 21:02:10
The owner is an elusive chap who is hard to pin down. However, I've left a message on his answering machine asking him to get back to me.

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 07 January 2014, 21:27:30
What to replace the Omega with is always a dilemma. ???......because even the newest are cracking on for eleven years old now. :'(

10 years, six months and counting .........

I don't know if this accurate - but from Wiki:

On 25 June 2003, the last Omega rolled out of the factory in Rüsselsheim.

So, even it was registered the next day - then it would be an 03 plate - many others were stored hence later registration dates.


Mine rolled off the production line in June 2002........but wasn't registered until 20th December 2003. :-X :-X :-X :-X

So.....18 months in a muddy field before the new owner got 'her' hands on it. :-\ :-\ :-\ Yes.....the first owner was a girlie. :-* :-*
Oh yeah? One lady owner? You never fell for that. ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: joshwyatt on 07 January 2014, 22:08:50
To give you an idea of price, available tomorrow at BCA Blackbushe is a 2005 '05' CLS 500 in Black, 95,742 warranted miles. 7 main dealer service stamps, last at 86,000 miles and MOT until December 2014. Guide price is £5,650.

For £6,995 you could get an '06' or '56' with 65,000 miles or so.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 January 2014, 22:12:01
With a private plate it would look like new as well, probably.

Personally I'd look into the front geometry, Merc went through a stage of running massive caster angles with excess camber and no adjustment. Not sure what era though...

...I really should find out more specifically on the model years.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 10:46:28
I've now spoken with the owner.

He is the MD of a food processing plant in Spalding and has owned the car for 4 years.The private plate M500 JFC ( which I assume to be worthless) exactly matches his full name. This comes with the car.

He is bringing the car to my house at 2.30 pm tomorrow and is happy to put a new MOT on it if I pay the full price of £6995.

It comes with FMBSH ( last serviced April 2013 at Monarch Mercedes)....and he assures me that everything electrical works as it should. We shall see.

The car has a paltry 2 months tax. :'(

It could be a good buy, or it could be a f**king money pit. Your guess is as good as mine. ;D

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 10:52:24
To give you an idea of price, available tomorrow at BCA Blackbushe is a 2005 '05' CLS 500 in Black, 95,742 warranted miles. 7 main dealer service stamps, last at 86,000 miles and MOT until December 2014. Guide price is £5,650.

For £6,995 you could get an '06' or '56' with 65,000 miles or so.


So we're in the right ballpark, Mr Josh......and at least it's not silver like every car seems to be these days. It also has the command/ satnav system which I believe was an option.

Shheesssh...Mercedes are as tight as a ducks arse when it comes to standard kit.  :'(

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 January 2014, 11:06:48
Check the tyre wear is even. :)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2014, 11:16:21
....
It also has the command/ satnav system which I believe was an option.

Shheesssh...Mercedes are as tight as a ducks arse when it comes to standard kit.  :'(

They are indeed. My R Class doesn't have Comand  :(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 11:32:56
I've now spoken with the owner.

He is the MD of a food processing plant in Spalding and has owned the car for 4 years.The private plate M500 JFC ( which I assume to be worthless) exactly matches his full name. This comes with the car.

He is bringing the car to my house at 2.30 pm tomorrow and is happy to put a new MOT on it if I pay the full price of £6995.

It comes with FMBSH ( last serviced April 2013 at Monarch Mercedes)....and he assures me that everything electrical works as it should. We shall see.

The car has a paltry 2 months tax. :'(

It could be a good buy, or it could be a f**king money pit. Your guess is as good as mine. ;D
It's been removed from the trader, so he must be hopeful Opti is going to buy it.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2014, 12:34:09
Why is he bringing it round to you?  ???

I'd rather go round his place and hopefully have a poke about the engine bay and see it started up from cold? Maybe his drive has a big oil patch where it leaks!!  ;)  :o  :D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 12:37:32
Why is he bringing it round to you? ???

I'd rather go round his place and hopefully have a poke about the engine bay and see it started up from cold? Maybe his drive has a big oil patch where it leaks!!  ;)  :o  :D


I asked him, Sir Tig.......Maybe it will give me 'home advantage'.

I could have gone to his place, or even his place of work. ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: tigers_gonads on 08 January 2014, 12:39:23
Just a bit of info for you Opti  :)

One of my customers had a Cl 55 AMG for a few years.
A lot quicker and not much difference in price or fuel economy in the real world  ;)

Ref parts, one thing he did say was that AMG replacement parts was cheaper then the standard Mercedes parts  :o
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 12:40:04
....
It also has the command/ satnav system which I believe was an option.

Shheesssh...Mercedes are as tight as a ducks arse when it comes to standard kit.  :'(

They are indeed. My R Class doesn't have Comand  :(


What year is your R class, Andy?......2011 seems to ring a bell for some reason.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 12:46:39
Just a bit of info for you Opti  :)

One of my customers had a Cl 55 AMG for a few years.
A lot quicker and not much difference in price or fuel economy in the real world  ;)

Ref parts, one thing he did say was that AMG replacement parts was cheaper then the standard Mercedes parts  :o


The CLS 500 is the runt of the litter with only 306 BHP, and offering broadly similar performance to a 3.0/3.2 Omega.

Later CLS 500's came with a 5.5 litre V8 and 388 BHP....and then came the supercharged 5.5litre V8 with 476 BHP.

However, these are all more expensive to buy, especially the supercharged johnny. :'(

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2014, 13:02:13
Ref parts, one thing he did say was that AMG replacement parts was cheaper then the standard Mercedes parts  :o

Mercedes parts are quite reasonable to be honest, especially compared to Vx!  ::)  I've also found the parts guys at the dealerships knowledgeable, informative and helpful.  :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2014, 13:33:32
....
It also has the command/ satnav system which I believe was an option.

Shheesssh...Mercedes are as tight as a ducks arse when it comes to standard kit.  :'(

They are indeed. My R Class doesn't have Comand  :(


What year is your R class, Andy?......2011 seems to ring a bell for some reason.

Not as new as that ...... it's 07 reg  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2014, 13:35:40
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 13:51:45
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.

 
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 14:22:31
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.
Put the details into the tax calculator on .gov
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 14:25:34
£269.50 according to Parker's.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2014, 14:36:17
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.

If registered before 1st March 2006, it will fall into same tax band as late (March 2001+) V6 Omega  :)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 14:43:19
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.

If registered before 1st March 2006, it will fall into same tax band as late (March 2001+) V6 Omega  :)

Thanks, Mr Tunnie. If correct, that would be a bonus.......and a whole lot cheaper than Mrs Opti's 2009 Mazda RX8 ( £475 from memory)

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2014, 14:45:56
...........and a whole lot cheaper than Mrs Opti's 2009 Mazda RX8 ( £475 from memory)

Which what I think mine was  :'(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2014, 14:49:08
It's a stupid rule, a 6.0 VXR Monaro, registered 1st Feb 2006 gets the lower £290~ band. Yet exact same car registered 1st April 2006, gets the super high £490+ band.

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 15:03:21
I've now spoken with the owner.

He is the MD of a food processing plant in Spalding and has owned the car for 4 years.The private plate M500 JFC ( which I assume to be worthless) exactly matches his full name. This comes with the car.

He is bringing the car to my house at 2.30 pm tomorrow and is happy to put a new MOT on it if I pay the full price of £6995.

It comes with FMBSH ( last serviced April 2013 at Monarch Mercedes)....and he assures me that everything electrical works as it should. We shall see.

The car has a paltry 2 months tax. :'(

It could be a good buy, or it could be a f**king money pit. Your guess is as good as mine. ;D
It's been removed from the trader, so he must be hopeful Opti is going to buy it.

It's back. The owner has revised the amount of tax remaining.

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Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 15:11:42
That makes the ad read badly. One months tax and two months mot will put a few people off.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 15:21:50
That makes the ad read badly. One months tax and two months mot will put a few people off.

Especially this part of the equation.

That is why I'm insisting on a new 12 month ticket.....and even then the rest of the car has to be up to snuff before I put my hand in my pocket.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2014, 15:37:01
It's a lot of wedge for a 7 - 8 year old car, even with it's FMBSH and relatively low mileage.  :-\  It'd have to be absolutely immaculate for me to consider it to be honest.  ::)

The fact that he's trying to sell it when the MOT is about to expire smells a bit to me, so be careful with this one Opti.  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 16:37:44
It's a lot of wedge for a 7 - 8 year old car, even with it's FMBSH and relatively low mileage.  :-\  It'd have to be absolutely immaculate for me to consider it to be honest.  ::)

The fact that he's trying to sell it when the MOT is about to expire smells a bit to me, so be careful with this one Opti.  ;)  :)

I will indeed, Sir Tig.......unless I get a rush of blood to the head... ;D

I'm not convinced that a 2006 Monaro would be significantly cheaper.


EDIT.... It wouldn't. I've just checked on Autotrader and Monaro's hold their value better than I thought.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 January 2014, 17:42:52
It's a lot of wedge for a 7 - 8 year old car, even with it's FMBSH and relatively low mileage.  :-\  It'd have to be absolutely immaculate for me to consider it to be honest.  ::)

The fact that he's trying to sell it when the MOT is about to expire smells a bit to me, so be careful with this one Opti.  ;)  :)

I will indeed, Sir Tig.......unless I get a rush of blood to the head... ;D

I'm not convinced that a 2006 Monaro would be significantly cheaper.


EDIT.... It wouldn't. I've just checked on Autotrader and Monaro's hold their value better than I thought.

Yeh but Monaro's are chavmobiles!!  :-X
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 17:50:33
It's a lot of wedge for a 7 - 8 year old car, even with it's FMBSH and relatively low mileage.  :-\  It'd have to be absolutely immaculate for me to consider it to be honest.  ::)

The fact that he's trying to sell it when the MOT is about to expire smells a bit to me, so be careful with this one Opti.  ;)  :)

I will indeed, Sir Tig.......unless I get a rush of blood to the head... ;D

I'm not convinced that a 2006 Monaro would be significantly cheaper.


EDIT.... It wouldn't. I've just checked on Autotrader and Monaro's hold their value better than I thought.

Yeh but Monaro's are chavmobiles!!  :-X


Some may say.......'off with his head'...... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 08 January 2014, 18:20:30
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 18:30:39
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 08 January 2014, 18:52:45
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: tigers_gonads on 08 January 2014, 18:54:58
Thought the cut off for cheepish tax was 1st March 2004  :-\
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 18:57:55
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 08 January 2014, 19:00:00
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 January 2014, 19:04:30
Thought the cut off for cheepish tax was 1st March 2004  :-\
23rd March 2006 :y

 https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables  (https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables) :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 19:16:00
Thought the cut off for cheepish tax was 1st March 2004  :-\
23rd March 2006 :y

 https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables  (https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables) :y

Using the registration number M500 JFC (which was first issued between August 1994 and July 1995) I've discovered that the car was registered on 20th February 2006........so cheaper road tax by the skin of it's teeth. :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: tigers_gonads on 08 January 2014, 19:17:52
Thought the cut off for cheepish tax was 1st March 2004  :-\
23rd March 2006 :y

 https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables  (https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables) :y


Gotcha  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 19:21:35
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(


Nowt wrong with a 'horrific depreciator' so long as you buy it AFTER their value falls off the cliff. ;D

That is what makes the Omega such a wise purchase. :P
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 19:53:37
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(


Nowt wrong with a 'horrific depreciator' so long as you buy it AFTER their value falls off the cliff. ;D

That is what makes the Omega such a wise purchase. :P
That's exactly what I did. Bought it after 3 years for just over £7K, kept it for two and a half years and traded it against an Astra H. I think I got £3.5K. The 190+ 2.5 that I had was about £22K new.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 20:37:44
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(


Nowt wrong with a 'horrific depreciator' so long as you buy it AFTER their value falls off the cliff. ;D

That is what makes the Omega such a wise purchase. :P
That's exactly what I did. Bought it after 3 years for just over £7K, kept it for two and a half years and traded it against an Astra H. I think I got £3.5K. The 190+ 2.5 that I had was about £22K new.

Yep. Almost any car loses megabucks as soon as it leaves the showroom.

Despite all the forum piss taking you actually did pretty well with your Daewoo, getting a virtually new car for half price. :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 20:39:41
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(


Nowt wrong with a 'horrific depreciator' so long as you buy it AFTER their value falls off the cliff. ;D

That is what makes the Omega such a wise purchase. :P
That's exactly what I did. Bought it after 3 years for just over £7K, kept it for two and a half years and traded it against an Astra H. I think I got £3.5K. The 190+ 2.5 that I had was about £22K new.

Yep. Almost any car loses megabucks as soon as it leaves the showroom.

Despite all the forum piss taking you actually did pretty well with your Daewoo, getting a virtually new car for half price. :y
I have "quoted" that to be used in evidence.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 January 2014, 20:44:24
Take £5k round to his house in the Opti black suitcase , im sure he will take it  :-\
£5K will fit in an A5 envelope. I took £7.5K for one I bought off eBay a good few years back.

That was one expensive omega  ::) ;D
It was for another horrific depreciator, an MGZT.

 :(


Nowt wrong with a 'horrific depreciator' so long as you buy it AFTER their value falls off the cliff. ;D

That is what makes the Omega such a wise purchase. :P
That's exactly what I did. Bought it after 3 years for just over £7K, kept it for two and a half years and traded it against an Astra H. I think I got £3.5K. The 190+ 2.5 that I had was about £22K new.

Yep. Almost any car loses megabucks as soon as it leaves the showroom.

Despite all the forum piss taking you actually did pretty well with your Daewoo, getting a virtually new car for half price. :y
I have "quoted" that to be used in evidence.  ;D


It's probably worth about half of that half now. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 08 January 2014, 20:47:06
The car buying service will give me 8 for it. But it's ideal for my needs.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2014, 22:36:08
The car buying service will give me 8 for it. But it's ideal for my needs.

I tried two of these tonight, just out of curiosity and both offered more than I had been offered in PX, however we know they don't actually pay the full amount quoted on line, but still interesting...... :D :D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Vamps on 08 January 2014, 22:37:23
That's a lot of car for the money. Dependant on the mot turning out ok, I would just buy it. Let's face it, if you give yourself enough time, you can talk yourself out of anything, and there will undoubtedly be folk telling you why you shouldn't have it.

If I was in the market for such a beast, that particular one would be high on my list. Good luck.

Indeed! and it is now sold........ ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 09:14:25
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.

If its a 55 plate then it will be the same as an Omega,changes to high rate in 06,April springs to mind :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 09:34:21
There's a thread here re CLS in general. http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=125840&page=3

A thing to note re Mercedes up to 2006 is the SBC brakes. They can cost mega bucks to sort/reset (they were built to operate so many time then display a warning - not fitted on my car)

Thanks, Andy.

The owner told me that road tax was/is £154 for six months.

Is this possible for a 2006 car?

Mark DTM reckons it will be £490 P.A.

If its a 55 plate then it will be the same as an Omega,changes to high rate in 06,April springs to mind :y

23rd March 06 is the change date,if registered before then its the £280 tax :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2014, 09:37:00
Was about to say close but no cigar ;D

Reply #64  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 09:48:23
Was about to say close but no cigar ;D

Reply #64  ;)

Teach me to read all the posts won't it :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 10:21:57
Sudden change of plan.
The owner is now arriving at 11.30am instead of 2.30pm. ::) ::)

Insurance quotes are all falling in the £160-£210 region (fully comp and with Mrs Opti as a named driver). :y :y :y


Shit....it's starting to rain here. :'( :'(

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2014, 10:34:24
Good luck!!  :) 
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 09 January 2014, 12:29:29
Good luck!!  :)

+1 and get a shammy ready  ::)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 13:11:13
Car was filthy when it arrived, which can hide a multitude of sins, so I insisted on washing it first.

General impressions were of a superb and well kept car that drove perfectly.

I offered £6750, but the owner wouldn't budge from £6995 with a new MOT. :'( At this point we reached an impasse.

However, I have this gut feeling that he'll get back to me .

Overall a great car, apart from the footbrake handbrake. ??? ??? ???



(http://i44.tinypic.com/14mucr9.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2e54f8p.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/293ajck.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 13:15:36
....it also came with virtually new winter tyres.

Michelin Alpin or some such crap. :-\
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 13:23:55
Car was filthy when it arrived, which can hide a multitude of sins, so I insisted on washing it first.

General impressions were of a superb and well kept car that drove perfectly.

I offered £6750, but the owner wouldn't budge from £6995 with a new MOT. :'( At this point we reached an impasse.

However, I have this gut feeling that he'll get back to me .

Overall a great car, apart from the footbrake handbrake. ??? ??? ???



(http://i44.tinypic.com/14mucr9.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2e54f8p.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/293ajck.jpg)

Foot handbrake is fine with an auto,bloody useless with a manual :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 13:24:37
.....

Overall a great car, apart from the footbrake handbrake. ??? ??? ???

 .....

A very nice car  :y

I can never see the problem with it if the car is auto ....... unless parked on a hill of sorts, my autos have always just been left in Park  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 13:25:15
Your garden must drain well Opti,if you drove that onto my garden at the moment it would sink to its axles :-X
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 13:25:50
.....

Foot handbrake is fine with an auto,bloody useless with a manual :y

But how many large Mercs are manual? Mine is only available as auto  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 13:29:07
.....

Foot handbrake is fine with an auto,bloody useless with a manual :y

But how many large Mercs are manual? Mine is only available as auto  ;)

Not sure any are nowadays,they were back in the day though and four pedals weren't great ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 13:31:30
I've not come across a footbrake handbrake before.  The owner reckons  it's something to do with Mercedes and the american market.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 13:33:30
I've not come across a footbrake handbrake before.  The owner reckons  it's something to do with Mercedes and the american market.

I think it's only Merc that uses it. I've only driven a few American cars & they've all used the same set up ....... easy to use when used with auto 'boxes.  :y
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2014, 14:03:18
I struggled to get my left knee up high enough to operate it in the CL63 I drove - but that's probably just because I'm a fat blobber ;D


So, basically what happened here is .. he drove it to you for a very cheap car wash? ;D

BTW, you said it came with winter tyres - does it come with a set of summer/all season, too? Otherwise that'll be a few quid to sort out come April..
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: pscocoa on 09 January 2014, 14:09:41
£245 is not a lot to argue about. Think of the time you have spent and will have to spend finding another. Wouldn't buy a manual gearbox though.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: MR MISTER on 09 January 2014, 14:09:42
I'm looking at the way the water is sitting on the car in that last pic, wax and polish need. The water should be in globules and run off easily.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 14:11:39
I struggled to get my left knee up high enough to operate it in the CL63 I drove - but that's probably just because I'm a fat blobber ;D


So, basically what happened here is .. he drove it to you for a very cheap car wash? ;D

BTW, you said it came with winter tyres - does it come with a set of summer/all season, too? Otherwise that'll be a few quid to sort out come April..

No.....And I bet the 275 mm tyres on the back  don't come cheap. :'(

Is it possible to use winter tyres all year round?
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 14:14:42
I struggled to get my left knee up high enough to operate it in the CL63 I drove - but that's probably just because I'm a fat blobber ;D


So, basically what happened here is .. he drove it to you for a very cheap car wash? ;D

BTW, you said it came with winter tyres - does it come with a set of summer/all season, too? Otherwise that'll be a few quid to sort out come April..


You're right Aaron.

What a bastard...... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 January 2014, 14:16:23
Ouch, so 800 notes worth of tyres needed in the summer!  ;D

You could run them in the summer but they wont last long and a car of that weight, size and power is going to be a handful
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: pscocoa on 09 January 2014, 14:19:03
This is Opti's winter car - he has options for summer - sports car in reserve
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2014, 14:23:26
I've not come across a footbrake handbrake before.  The owner reckons  it's something to do with Mercedes and the american market.

I think it's only Merc that uses it. I've only driven a few American cars & they've all used the same set up ....... easy to use when used with auto 'boxes.  :y

My '98 C250 has the foot/hand brake and you quickly get used to it.  In fact when I drive the Omega these days I often plant my foot into an empty space looking for the park brake!  :D

In fact my Merc's filthy too! PM me your addy Opti and I'll be round!!  :)  I even might let you keep it for a little more than the £245 that you're arguing about......  :-\

Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 14:23:45
Ouch, so 800 notes worth of tyres needed in the summer! ;D

You could run them in the summer but they wont last long and a car of that weight, size and power is going to be a handful


Hmmm.....not good.

But If I shop around I reckon I can get 4 decent all season tyres for about  £550-£600.

This means the price of the car with 12 months MOT will rise to about £7500 ish........about 12% of it's original purchase price.
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 14:25:30
I've not come across a footbrake handbrake before.  The owner reckons  it's something to do with Mercedes and the american market.

I think it's only Merc that uses it. I've only driven a few American cars & they've all used the same set up ....... easy to use when used with auto 'boxes.  :y

My '98 C250 has the foot/hand brake and you quickly get used to it.  In fact when I drive the Omega these days I often plant my foot into an empty space looking for the park brake!  :D

In fact my Merc's filthy too! PM me your addy Opti and I'll be round!!  :)


Foxtrot Oscar, Sir Tig. :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: aaronjb on 09 January 2014, 14:57:26
Is it possible to use winter tyres all year round?

As Mark says - you can, but you probably wouldn't want to.  If you ran them in the height of summer I wouldn't mind betting they'd only last a year and it'd be like driving on greased monkey snot - although I ran mine from November '12 to April '13 and even though we had some fairly high temperatures they were fine and predictable enough if lacking a little outright grip when the temperature was above about 12ºC..
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 15:30:09
Is it possible to use winter tyres all year round?

As Mark says - you can, but you probably wouldn't want to.  If you ran them in the height of summer I wouldn't mind betting they'd only last a year and it'd be like driving on greased monkey snot - although I ran mine from November '12 to April '13 and even though we had some fairly high temperatures they were fine and predictable enough if lacking a little outright grip when the temperature was above about 12ºC..

Most people barely have enough money for one set of tyres, let alone two...........not to mention the cost of changing them back and forth twice a year. ???

Some bright spark has developed a market for a product none of us need. :(
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 15:32:02
Is it possible to use winter tyres all year round?

As Mark says - you can, but you probably wouldn't want to.  If you ran them in the height of summer I wouldn't mind betting they'd only last a year and it'd be like driving on greased monkey snot - although I ran mine from November '12 to April '13 and even though we had some fairly high temperatures they were fine and predictable enough if lacking a little outright grip when the temperature was above about 12ºC..
I've not encountered this on British roads, Aaron. :) Maybe in the tropics. ;D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 09 January 2014, 16:23:04
Im liking it the more i see it Mr O  :) Imagine that all waxed up and gleaming and it will put Lizzies Omega to shame  :D
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2014, 16:23:36
I have a set of winters on the rear of my Omega and can't tell any difference whatever the season to be honest.  They didn't wear away to nothing during the summer either.  ;)

There may be a small difference in fuel consumption I suppose, but I'm not anal enough to worry about 0.0whatever difference in MPG.  :) 
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2014, 16:23:53
Im liking it the more i see it Mr O  :) Imagine that all waxed up and gleaming and it will put Lizzies Omega to shame  :D

Would you like to see the lady in question draped seductively over the bonnet, Mr Emd? :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: omega3000 on 09 January 2014, 16:25:56
Im liking it the more i see it Mr O  :) Imagine that all waxed up and gleaming and it will put Lizzies Omega to shame  :D

Would you like to see the lady in question draped seductively over the bonnet, Mr Emd? :-* :-* :-*

 :-* :-*  ;D :-\
Title: Re: Possible Omega replacement
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 16:40:51
.....
Most people barely have enough money for one set of tyres, let alone two...........not to mention the cost of changing them back and forth twice a year. ???

Some bright spark has developed a market for a product none of us need. :(

Part of the argument for them is that you have two sets of tyres & rims .... winter & summer. You only drive on one set at a time & so are only wearing one set.  ;) At £477 for two tyres for mine, it will have to manage on just all season 'normal' tyres.  ;)