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Title: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:40:12
Can anyone comprehend a temperature such as this? It is predicted that this will be the low in a place called Fargo in the US.
I was trying to think of what would happen if this occurred here. All the water based fluids in you car would freeze solid, even neat windscreen wash. Apparently, it will freeze skin in two minutes.
I was thinking....could a single pane of 4mm glass withstand the temperature differential of minus 61 outside and, say, plus 65 degrees inside your house?
I'm sure you can all think of more......
Unimaginable.
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: cam2502 on 06 January 2014, 20:45:34
Seen a clip on the news earlier but they said it was ( only) minus 35. That's bad enough but minus -61...jeez!!
Think the coldest I've ever endured was minus 18 and that was almost unbearable .
Wonder if when it gets to a certain temp, say minus 30 for instance if it makes any difference regardless of how much colder it gets?
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:48:01
Seen a clip on the news earlier but they said it was ( only) minus 35. That's bad enough but minus -61...jeez!!
Think the coldest I've ever endured was minus 18 and that was almost unbearable .
Wonder if when it gets to a certain temp, say minus 30 for instance if it makes any difference regardless of how much colder it gets?
According to programmes I've watched about the poles, yes, especially to infrastructure. Metal snaps much more easily at very low temperatures. And tyres....at minus 61... Should imagine it would affect them.
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Entwood on 06 January 2014, 20:49:21
The -61 is the equivalent temperature including windchill. Your windows don't suffer from windchill, only soft/moist surfaces like skin do !!

But still bloody cold even without the windchill factor !!

Coldest I've personally experienced was -32C in Thule, luckily the aircraft was in a heated hanger (heated to -5C to preserve the permafrost) and a vehicle to get from accommodation to hanger ..the only time I was actually outside was a 2 minute check after we had been towed out of the hanger just prior to engine start ('twas my job to check the towing bridle for correct disconnection and remove one safety pin from the nose undercarriage) .. that 2 minutes was extended by the 5 minutes before and after getting rather a lot of very serious clothing on !!  I would not have believed just how cold my cheeks and forehead got in those two minutes ...  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 20:50:39
The -61 is the equivalent temperature including windchill. Your windows don't suffer from windchill, only soft/moist surfaces like skin do !!

But still bloody cold even without the windchill factor !!
Right...so why is US TV showing minus 61? Bloody yanks  ;D
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Entwood on 06 January 2014, 20:56:23
The -61 is the equivalent temperature including windchill. Your windows don't suffer from windchill, only soft/moist surfaces like skin do !!

But still bloody cold even without the windchill factor !!
Right...so why is US TV showing minus 61? Bloody yanks  ;D

-61F ??? but that is -51C .. so I guess they mean with wind chill ...
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 January 2014, 21:11:07
during my military service I have faced -25 celcius several times at late hours.. even gloves stick to guns metal.. ;D
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: MR MISTER on 06 January 2014, 21:12:35
If the Ruskies feel like attacking, tonight would be a good time.

"We can't retaliate, all our nukes are frozen solid. Shit. Duck!"
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Varche on 06 January 2014, 21:14:00
Worlds coldest recorded temps
   

    Antarctica: -89.2C (-128.5F) recorded on 21 Jul 1983 at Vostok
    N America: -63.0C (-81.4F) recorded on 3 Feb 1947 in Yukon Territory, Canada
    Europe: -58.1C (-72.6F) recorded on 31 Dec 1978 in Ust 'Schugor, Russia
    South America: -32.8C (-27F) recorded on 1 June 1907 in Sarmiento, Argentina
    Africa: -23.9C (-11F) recorded on 11 Feb 1935 in Ifrane, Morocco
    Australia: -23C (-9.4F) recorded on 29 Jun 1994 in Charlotte Pass, New South Wales
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Rods2 on 06 January 2014, 21:28:11
You missed one out:

SWMBO disapproves -273degC  ::) :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

Coldest I've known in my wife's village in -33degC two years ago, normally the coldest is around -25degC. At the moment they have gone from very warm between a min of -2degC to a max of +2degC to an unusually hot +7degC today. Normal average for this time of year is about -7degC.
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: omega3000 on 06 January 2014, 21:59:55
Seen a clip on the news earlier but they said it was ( only) minus 35. That's bad enough but minus -61...jeez!!
Think the coldest I've ever endured was minus 18 and that was almost unbearable .
Wonder if when it gets to a certain temp, say minus 30 for instance if it makes any difference regardless of how much colder it gets?
According to programmes I've watched about the poles, yes, especially to infrastructure. Metal snaps much more easily at very low temperatures. And tyres....at minus 61... Should imagine it would affect them.

  Tyre thread  :-X :-X :-X

Knew i should have picked up some snow grips for shoes from Poundland  :(
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Entwood on 06 January 2014, 22:03:15
Snow grips no good in those temperatures, it is more like driving in sand than UK snow/ice ... the snow/ice is so cold it has no "wet" surface, and it is the wetness that makes ice slippery.
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: chrisgixer on 06 January 2014, 22:21:23
Just watched an un identifiable reporter, on itv news, wrapped up in multi layers of clothing and head gear, throw a cup of "boiling" water in the air.

It froze before it hit the ground. :o
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Entwood on 06 January 2014, 22:26:14
Just watched an un identifiable reporter, on itv news, wrapped up in multi layers of clothing and head gear, throw a cup of "boiling" water in the air.

It froze before it hit the ground. :o

Oldish trick ... as you throw the water upwards it forms small droplets, each of which has very little latent heat .. so freezes very quickly .. if he had poured it out it would not have frozen anywhere near as fast ...  :)
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: omegod on 06 January 2014, 22:41:36
It was -25 in Finland when we went to see Santa a few years ago, didn't feel any colder than a normal -5 winters day here, mind you my camera battery died within 60 seconds then magically went back to full charge when I went back indoors :o


Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 January 2014, 22:51:34
Definitely farenheit and with wind chill :y

Pikeville, Kentucky was -4°F today, with -25°F expected overnight. Still bastid freezing however you spell temperature  :D

Imagine the consequences if that rain we're having had fallen as snow :o

Any mention of it heading this way?
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: plym ian on 06 January 2014, 23:01:01
Definitely farenheit and with wind chill :y

Pikeville, Kentucky was -4°F today, with -25°F expected overnight. Still bastid freezing however you spell temperature  :D

Imagine the consequences if that rain we're having had fallen as snow :o

Any mention of it heading this way?

I heard earlier that if wind turns from north then all this rain we've been having will turn to the white stuff pretty quick :)
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 January 2014, 23:12:24
So if the low makes it to Norway rather than sitting off Iceland...
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: kevinp58 on 07 January 2014, 00:53:24
My cousin lives just outside Regina in Canada and they have had temperatures of -50c this year they said its the coldest they have known it there.
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: tunnie on 07 January 2014, 15:11:15
Saw an interesting news report on it, the presenter standing in the street all wrapped up.

Boiling water poured into a cup, he tossed the cup into the air...... the water never hit the ground, it turned into vapour/snow mid-air  :o
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: tunnie on 07 January 2014, 15:12:17
Can't find the news report but here is a daily Fail version:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html)
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 07 January 2014, 18:55:33
Can't find the news report but here is a daily Fail version:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html)


Reply no13 Mr tunnie  ::)
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: kevinp58 on 07 January 2014, 19:59:57
Saw an interesting news report on it, the presenter standing in the street all wrapped up.

Boiling water poured into a cup, he tossed the cup into the air...... the water never hit the ground, it turned into vapour/snow mid-air  :o








Yup seen that before and also the frozen water on burning buildings.  :o
Title: Re: Minus 61 degrees
Post by: MR MISTER on 07 January 2014, 21:25:38
Can't find the news report but here is a daily Fail version:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534848/Watch-polar-vortex-instantly-turns-boiling-water-snow.html)
That's fickin rubbish. It's not snow, it's steam, watch it dissipate.