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Title: Day driving lights
Post by: Nobby on 06 January 2014, 21:56:11
If needed, how do I wire daylight driving lights to my 2001 V6 ? :o would appreciate help.
Just a point of interest, its against the law to have FOG lights on if you can see more than half a kilometre, ie no fog, yet daylight running lights are much brighter (led)?????
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: ronnyd on 06 January 2014, 22:27:20
Yes, i was stopped by plod over Christmas and he politely asked me to turn my fogs off as the visibility was not
bad enough to warrant them being used. I must admit that he was very polite and wished me a Merry Christmas.
Nice bloke. :D
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: ronnyd on 06 January 2014, 22:33:36
P.S You may be O.K. if you can find a way to wire it so that the fogs go out when the headlights are dipped. :-\
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: miniator on 07 January 2014, 09:46:43
If needed, how do I wire daylight driving lights to my 2001 V6 ? :o would appreciate help.
Just a point of interest, its against the law to have FOG lights on if you can see more than half a kilometre, ie no fog, yet daylight running lights are much brighter (led)?????

yes DRL's are brighter on some cars but they dont actually "throw" much light forward onto the road.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Bigron on 07 January 2014, 17:27:18
I've never been sure of the official reason for the illegality of fog lights in clear vision conditions, but a common sense reason is that if you are so unaware of the status of your lights appropriate to conditions, should you be allowed to drive?
It's a bit like using your turn indicators when there isn't another vehicle in your vicinity to see them. My driving instructor (ahem, many years ago) said it would likely get me an advisory notice on my test, if not a fail for not being aware of surrounding traffic - or lack of it.

Ron.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 07 January 2014, 17:46:09
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 if you are so unaware of the status of your lights appropriate to conditions, should you be allowed to drive?
 ....

but it's also up to manufacturers to locate the tell tales so you can actually see it. Front & rear fogs' tell tale on earlier Omegas was I believe just on the actual switch until Vauxhall decided to move them to the dash where you can see it. My Merc has the tell tale for the main lights & the rear fog (nobody ticked the front fog light option when they ordered it new  ???) at knee level & the city bankers illuminated the moving part of the rotary switch bit but left the static bit not lit!  ???  ???  ??? So, though you can see the bit you're turning .... you can't see what it lines up with!  :-X Also, in the past, dash lights were only on with the lights, it seems that many now light up with the ignition irrespective of whether lights are on.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: P-son on 09 January 2014, 20:53:56
If needed, how do I wire daylight driving lights to my 2001 V6 ? :o would appreciate help.
Just a point of interest, its against the law to have FOG lights on if you can see more than half a kilometre, ie no fog, yet daylight running lights are much brighter (led)?????

Now i´m not sure we have the same laws.
But here in Sweden the law says.
Normal Conditions Daytime:
DRL light OR position lights OR position lights + driving light OR position lights + foglights

NOT the combination Fog Front + Drivinglight
DRL not combined with anything, they havto switch of when other front-lights is activated
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Nobby on 09 January 2014, 21:13:31
I was not asking if/when to use fog lights, I was merely making a remark as to how the law seems to be controversial  at times! Bigron.
Back to my original question, doe's anyone know how to wire up DRL to a 2002 2.6 Omega?
Please.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: AndyStobbs on 09 January 2014, 21:53:55
Think there is a relay and a fuse to add. Essentially putting the car into Scandinavian spec. Will have to research it a bit more, never actually done the job but have seen the parts shown on wiring diagrams.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 22:32:59
Think there is a relay and a fuse to add. Essentially putting the car into Scandinavian spec. Will have to research it a bit more, never actually done the job but have seen the parts shown on wiring diagrams.

http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1299860937  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 09 January 2014, 22:35:33
Think there is a relay and a fuse to add. Essentially putting the car into Scandinavian spec. Will have to research it a bit more, never actually done the job but have seen the parts shown on wiring diagrams.

http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1299860937  ;) ;)

Well done Andy. Wot I said  :y
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2014, 22:38:27
Think there is a relay and a fuse to add. Essentially putting the car into Scandinavian spec. Will have to research it a bit more, never actually done the job but have seen the parts shown on wiring diagrams.

http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1299860937  ;) ;)

Well done Andy. Wot I said  :y

I knew you'd said it ....... just had to find it  :y :y
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Keith ABS on 11 January 2014, 16:25:18
  It is against the law to use fog lights when the visabilaty is more than 100 yards(in old money) and in built up areas. Used to be a £30 fine. Plod could make a fortune if they were to enforce it today ;D ;D :y :y
Keith B
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: ronnyd on 11 January 2014, 20:23:13
  It is against the law to use fog lights when the visabilaty is more than 100 yards(in old money) and in built up areas. Used to be a £30 fine. Plod could make a fortune if they were to enforce it today ;D ;D :y :y
Keith B
Quite true , there are loads of Gary boys driving around our towns with all lights blazing. 8)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: martin42 on 11 January 2014, 21:40:44
Why not just turn side lights on when you get in the car,might require some human input but its only turning a switch 1 position. :y
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Nobby on 14 January 2014, 21:10:00
Thanks,.  for your expertize. ::)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: 2woody on 15 January 2014, 12:37:43
side lights in daylight - permissible

headlights during daylight - questionable

fog lights during daylight ( & not when needed ) - not permissible

but the best solution if you're really insistent is just to turn on the side lamps ( you will look like a chav, mind )
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 January 2014, 13:08:55
If you really want to look like a chav it seems to be the fashion these days to have one of the lights defective at all times. ::)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: martin42 on 15 January 2014, 13:27:02
side lights in daylight - permissible

headlights during daylight - questionable

fog lights during daylight ( & not when needed ) - not permissible

but the best solution if you're really insistent is just to turn on the side lamps ( you will look like a chav, mind )
Side and headlights on constant with new fleet transits,and people still pull out in front off me. :y
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 15 January 2014, 14:28:27
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Side and headlights on constant with new fleet transits, and people still pull out in front off me. :y

Likewise when I drive her Smart Rodaster  >:(  >:(  Funny how they don't do the same when in my Merc  ::)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 January 2014, 15:40:57
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Side and headlights on constant with new fleet transits, and people still pull out in front off me. :y

Likewise when I drive her Smart Rodaster  >:(  >:(  Funny how they don't do the same when in my Merc  ::)
Paint it white and it will become instantly invisible >:(
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: AndyStobbs on 15 January 2014, 21:03:38
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Side and headlights on constant with new fleet transits, and people still pull out in front off me. :y

Likewise when I drive her Smart Rodaster  >:(  >:(  Funny how they don't do the same when in my Merc  ::)

Doesn't work on a motorbike either.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 15 January 2014, 21:18:02
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Side and headlights on constant with new fleet transits, and people still pull out in front off me. :y

Likewise when I drive her Smart Rodaster  >:(  >:(  Funny how they don't do the same when in my Merc  ::)

Doesn't work on a motorbike either.

I know!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: AndyStobbs on 15 January 2014, 21:35:22
What bike have you got Andy? Got a Daytona 600 myself.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 15 January 2014, 21:38:03
What bike have you got Andy? Got a Daytona 600 myself.

a 1997 TDM 850 Plenty fast enough for me, though I have to say that it rarely gets used these days. In fact, I lent it to a mate last summer and he did more miles in a week in Scotland than I'd done in the previous few years.  :-[

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/TDM850_zps3d215360.jpg)
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: AndyStobbs on 15 January 2014, 21:45:34
Nice, very tidy. Mines just a dry weather thing. Not to the extent that I have a flid if it rains while I'm on it. But generally don't take it out if the weather looks threatening. Put 6000 miles on it in 3 years though, just on pleasure.
Title: Re: Day driving lights
Post by: Andy B on 15 January 2014, 22:14:44
Nice, very tidy. Mines just a dry weather thing. Not to the extent that I have a flid if it rains while I'm on it. But generally don't take it out if the weather looks threatening. Put 6000 miles on it in 3 years though, just on pleasure.

I'm a fair weather rider too I can help it, though I have used it to commute in the past .... either get wet or queue for ever on the M60 in the car. Not sure how many miles I've put on it in recent years, but I bought it about 11 yrs ago with around 10k miles on it & it's now at almost 20k miles