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Title: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: jay99 on 08 January 2014, 23:34:36
Hello again, I haven't had to post in some time as my omega has been running perfectly ever since I did the cam sensor and fixed the steering wheel wobble.

But today I was parked and I left the steering on full lock. So as I was walking toward the car I could not see any tread on the front two tyres. Its as if they are slicks!!

I just had the problem fixed a few months ago when the steering wheel was wobbling and the car had the track rods fixed and two brand spanking new tyres with treads so deep that you could fit your fingers inside them.

I absolutely cannot drive the car now as each tyre gets 3 points and I'd lose my licence.

Not sure what to do now, do I go to the tyre place because the tyres may be faulty or do I go back to the place that fixed the track rod or is it something else? I don't think my dad kept the receipt but what do I do now?

Thank you  :'( :'(
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 January 2014, 23:43:02
Probably failed to set the toe correctly, and its wiped the tread off in double quick time. :(

There's a decent set up company up your way, someone will be along. But get it set up first, for full geometric set up, before fitting new tyres or the new ones will go the same way.
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 January 2014, 00:16:21
Probably failed to set the toe correctly, and its wiped the tread off in double quick time. :(

There's a decent set up company up your way, someone will be along. But get it set up first, for full geometric set up, before fitting new tyres or the new ones will go the same way.
Got that T shirt... :-[

Post your location and, as said someone will be able to recommend a place to set the geometry :y

Failing that, these people are the place to go to...

 http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/  (http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/)  :y

Cheaper than a pair of tyres every fortnight...
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: robson on 09 January 2014, 08:14:57
Get the tyres on order or in the boot so that if you are stopped the nasty policeman may let you off. :y
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: alank46 on 09 January 2014, 08:31:50
Sounds like your tracking is way out.  I would buy two new tyres and have the tracking checked at the same time, then have a full geo set up ASAP.  Book an appointment for the tyres, it may help if you are stopped on the way there.
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: zirk on 09 January 2014, 09:09:33
Get decent tyres on the fronts asap, even if part worn, unless your driving pre booked to a Garage or Tyre Place, if stopped, no amount blag'ing to Plod in there right mind is going to let you off driving slicks on the front.  ;) 
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 January 2014, 10:00:33
It's times like this I think part worns have a use. ;)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: zirk on 09 January 2014, 11:57:01
It's times like this I think part worns have a use. ;)
Absolutely, dont use part worn myself but at roughly £25 a corner fitted vs 6 Points on your Lic'y is a no brainer, at least until the cause of the problem is fixed.  :y
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 January 2014, 12:24:14
Are they bold across the full face or just the inside edge?
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: jay99 on 09 January 2014, 17:20:27
Are they bold across the full face or just the inside edge?

They are all bald evenly and not on the inner edge. Back two are fine but both tyres are the same and all the tread is gone.

I have a new Michelin spare in the boot with a metal alloy and I've got another in the garage so I'm going to attempt to change it with the jack and spanner and get it to geometry.
I'm from oldham too.

Thanks

P.s forgot to mention that the steering wheel to go straight has to be kept at a slight angle, like I'm going left. I've always driven the car like this. Is this something geometry would fix? How much would this cost?

Thank you :y
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 January 2014, 17:32:18
Yes full geo should sort all that. Take it back if it doesn't.

Check through the guides and FAQ sections. It's all there. :)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Big_Al on 09 January 2014, 17:36:17
Are they bold across the full face or just the inside edge?

They are all bald evenly and not on the inner edge. Back two are fine but both tyres are the same and all the tread is gone.

I have a new Michelin spare in the boot with a metal alloy and I've got another in the garage so I'm going to attempt to change it with the jack and spanner and get it to geometry.
I'm from oldham too.

Thanks

P.s forgot to mention that the steering wheel to go straight has to be kept at a slight angle, like I'm going left. I've always driven the car like this. Is this something geometry would fix? How much would this cost?

Thank you :y

Just to clear & confirm

Are you saying both front tyres have no tread at all right across their complete width?

And these are fairly new tyres ?
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Shackeng on 09 January 2014, 17:43:02
Are you sure no-one has nicked your wheels? It happened to my son's Sierra a few years ago, swapped all 4 for rubbish.!
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Big_Al on 09 January 2014, 17:49:13
Are you sure no-one has nicked your wheels? It happened to my son's Sierra a few years ago, swapped all 4 for rubbish.!
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didn't want to mention that as I had that happen a few years ago  on a cavalier  . . . 3 out of 4  went    . . . wheel trims all replaced very neatly as well
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: henryd on 09 January 2014, 18:26:51
Shouldn't be a track issue if the tyres are worn evenly across entire width ???
Title: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Clock on 09 January 2014, 19:31:00
Any change in your steering needs the tracking redone by a specialist s 4 wheel slignment.  Try Nigel Langs in Bolton. They did mine a couple of months ago.
If you mention OOF they'll give you a discount. I think I paid about £75.00. Cheaper than a set of tyres.
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 January 2014, 19:32:04
Any change in your steering needs the tracking redone by a specialist s 4 wheel slignment.  Try Nigel Langs in Bolton. They did mine a couple of months ago.
If you mention OOF they'll give you a discount. I think I paid about £75.00. Cheaper than a set of tyres.
There ya go. What he said /\ :)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Big_Al on 09 January 2014, 19:44:40
Is this situation of the complete tread on both front tyres " evenly  worn" off completely in a 2/3 months

 not a tad "unusual " ? :-\ :-\

I of course bow to those oofers who know their steering & suspension inside out  . . BUT . . .

I would have thought that any sort of  set up discrepancy would have led to at least some sort of "uneven" wear  :-\ :-\

Would incorrect tracking Scrub the complete tread off "Evenly" ?

Out of curiosity  . . . I'd like to  ask the OP how the old tyres he replaced were worn ? :-\ :-\

and was the track rod work carried out by a garage with the tracking reset afterwards?

Although we oof members know that a full geomery set up is vital on the omega , bear in mind this guy may not :-\

And quite likely the the garage that carried out the work ( if thats the case) does not either  ::) ::)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: jay99 on 09 January 2014, 20:27:07
The tread is completely flat to touch, there is very little tread you can feel. The tyres were new as I remember they were spotless and had very deep grooves in them and had lots of white paste on the wall.

I'm not sure if the garage did tracking on it, so I'll ring them tomorrow. I'll also post some pictures and show you the extent of the damage.

Have they been nicked? I'm not sure to be honest, the back two look fine and if was going to nick some tyres I would theoretically steal the back ones as it would be easier to lift the back end because there's no engine. And anyway it is locked with a funny plastic key kept in the glovebox with the metal circles on them

And anyway if the tread is worn evenly on both and not on an edge then maybe they are simply rubbish tyres. I'll note the brand tomorrow.

Thank you for the speedy help guys
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 09 January 2014, 20:37:07
What tyres are they? Are they still the same as the ones purchased? Loking wheel nuts still in place?...etc. :)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: kevinp58 on 09 January 2014, 22:13:57
Are you sure no-one has nicked your wheels? It happened to my son's Sierra a few years ago, swapped all 4 for rubbish.!











Mmmm just what I was thinking it is very strange that they are worn right across the tyre surely if track was out then sides would be worn and some centre tread left.  :-\
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Shackeng on 09 January 2014, 22:42:01
Completely even wear sounds like badly worn tyres that have been on the rear. :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Jimbob on 10 January 2014, 07:51:57
As mentioned...Nigel Langs in Bolton will find and fix the problem.  Highly recommended
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: AndyStobbs on 10 January 2014, 13:13:27
What if the problem is simply two worn out tyres? Badly made batch with an uber soft compound. I feel that any issue with tracking bad enough to completey scrub tyres would result in cords visible before the rest of the tyre wore away.
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 January 2014, 13:57:26
Might be worth going back to the tyre place if you still have the receipt?

Take your MOT to prove you havn't done interstellar mileage since they were fitted (assuming you havn't) and they might do a free tracking/alignment check.  :)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 January 2014, 17:03:49
What if the problem is simply two worn out tyres? Badly made batch with an uber soft compound. I feel that any issue with tracking bad enough to completey scrub tyres would result in cords visible before the rest of the tyre wore away.


Makes sense to me.
Ring trading standards first because you can bet life that if its a faulty batch then somebody else would have complained  ;)
Then have a word with the garage  :)
Title: Re: front two tyres have gone bald!!!!
Post by: AndyStobbs on 10 January 2014, 17:16:21
We don't even know how many miles you've put on these tyres yet. Or what brand and wear rating. Cheap Chinese tyres wear away at an alarming rate anyway.