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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: BazaJT on 01 February 2014, 05:48:32
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Had my Jaguar advertised for sale,apart from one muppet wasting my time offering under 50% of my asking price I've so far had one other buyer interested in it.Now this one got in touch by text[as I'd asked for]initially and since by e-mail.A price has been agreed but they want to pay by paypal and then get another party to turn up to collect the car.They've never been to view the car yet say they're satisfied with its condition.Can this go wrong i.e. is it some kind of scam that I'm not seeing?
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I think I would want cash on collection just to be safe :y
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Was it from an AutoTrader listing by any chance ::)
Had a few messages like this from AutoTrader listings, I've copied / pasted one below I received some time ago...
Thanks for your urgent response, I'm okay with the price and I'm pleased with the condition as i have already gone through it on the advert, but just trying to make little inquiry from you, I'm ready to buy it now as a gift for my Daughter, I'm at sea at the moment as I'm a Navy Officer,and due to the nature of my Job.....phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert. I really want it to be a surprise for my Daughter i won't let her know anything about it until it gets delivered to her, i am sure she will be more than happy with it. I insisted on PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account on-line as i don't have Internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, get back to me with your PayPal email asap so as to proceed on with the payment quickly, and sorry if you don't have a PayPal Account, you sign-up for a PayPal personal account www.PayPal.com it is very fast and easy to set up. And there is a shipping company pick up agent that will come for the pick up after the payment has been sorted out .
Await your swift response asap.
Thanks.
There are other types of emails, But all every similar, I always respond " Cash on collection only sorry, If your still interested give me a Call on #### so we can discuss this " .. They never usually respond, But if they do respond it's with a message like the one above.
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its a con mate next they will ask for you to pay shipping via american union or somthing like that then saying they will put the money in a holding account in pay pal they wil then ask you for more money for shiping paypal dont have holding accounts its a scam dont doit tell him to go forth an d multiply
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I think its a more simple con actually.
They pay you via Paypal & you get the mone - so far so good :y.
Then someone comes to collect the car & drives it away, you think the issue is closed - but it isn't, as another person arrives shortly afterwards to collect the car! "we paid you via paypal" & produce the paperwork to prove it.
Essentially you have been setup by then both working together and allowing the car to be nicked. They then get a refund from paypal!
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ask for a direct bank transfer, say you don't use paypal
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Certainly sounds dodgy. Bank transfer or cash is what I would insist on. If they ain't happy with that,well I'm sure you'll sell the car to someone else who is genuine.
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Avoid.
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I think its a more simple con actually.
They pay you via Paypal & you get the mone - so far so good :y.
Then someone comes to collect the car & drives it away, you think the issue is closed - but it isn't, as another person arrives shortly afterwards to collect the car! "we paid you via paypal" & produce the paperwork to prove it.
Essentially you have been setup by then both working together and allowing the car to be nicked. They then get a refund from paypal!
I totally agree, seen it happen loads of times with smaller items, they pay via Paypal and then ask for the item to be sent to a 'work or friends' address, after they have it they do a Paypal chargeback and say the item was not delivered to them at the registered address and Paypal/Ebay will side with the buyer
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I think its a more simple con actually.
They pay you via Paypal & you get the mone - so far so good :y.
Then someone comes to collect the car & drives it away, you think the issue is closed - but it isn't, as another person arrives shortly afterwards to collect the car! "we paid you via paypal" & produce the paperwork to prove it.
Essentially you have been setup by then both working together and allowing the car to be nicked. They then get a refund from paypal!
don't think this is true as paypal dosnt cover car sales
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Yes, I agree with everything others have said. It is a scam, and one that has been highlighted on television in the past.
Avoid at all costs! :y :y
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I think its a more simple con actually.
They pay you via Paypal & you get the mone - so far so good :y.
Then someone comes to collect the car & drives it away, you think the issue is closed - but it isn't, as another person arrives shortly afterwards to collect the car! "we paid you via paypal" & produce the paperwork to prove it.
Essentially you have been setup by then both working together and allowing the car to be nicked. They then get a refund from paypal!
don't think this is true as paypal dosnt cover car sales
Looks like I was mis-informed then
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It was in response to an advert I placed on Gumtree.However their reasons for wanting to use paypal were essentially as Omegaman has posted,although not citing a particular job but claiming not to be able to get to a bank or do internet banking but having paypal linked to their bank account.I was tempted to agree but I don't know why I just felt uneasy with the arrangement and having read your comments I'll stick with that unease and not go through with the deal on those terms.If they want to turn up with the cash then I'll sell it.Once again the power of this forums wisdom shows through!Cheers people.
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If they can access paypal,they can do online banking,glad youve taken the good advice on here.
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No don't do it, cash on collection is the only way for a purchase/sale of this kind.
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While it is always good to be cautious I did this some years ago, bought our Red Mig Estate blind from a garage Manchester way and had a 3rd party (car delivery/collection co) collect it having paid via PayPal, I had had a number of phone calls with the seller though....... :) :)