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Title: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Ever Ready on 06 February 2014, 18:55:30
Well do you back up all your precious porn data or do you fly by the seat of your tighty whiteys?

This Thursday (a few days from now) I will do my annual back up to 387 5.25'' well floppy discs

Have to keep those pics of Methuselah for posterity or is it posterior? oh arse I can never remember ;D ;D
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: AndyRoid on 06 February 2014, 18:59:21
My backups take place as soon as the data is moved to my NAS, and my current setup allows for 3 hard drives to fail simultaneously (a highly unlikely situation) while still maintaining data integrity.
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Ever Ready on 06 February 2014, 19:05:21
My backups take place as soon as the data is moved to my NAS, and my current setup allows for 3 hard drives to fail simultaneously (a highly unlikely situation) while still maintaining data integrity.
You've gone and done it now ;D  expect your three drives to spontaneously combust any time ;D  Only joking.........I hope  :)
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: AndyRoid on 06 February 2014, 19:09:26
You've gone and done it now ;D  expect your three drives to spontaneously combust any time ;D  Only joking.........I hope  :)
I've had 2 drives fail simultaneously (well, the second one fell over approx an hour after the first one) which would generally be considered a rare occurrence, but if 3 ever fall over at once then I'd be very surprised (although my data will still be there so I won't care too much  ;) )   
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: pscocoa on 06 February 2014, 19:16:11
Back up always - pc and phone. Phone pics go to cloud immediately as do contacts etc. Pc I think is 9pm daily - must check
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Ever Ready on 06 February 2014, 19:19:50
I also use WHS which backups and then backups the back up  not invincible but I also have family photos etc on several other pc's both here and off site :y
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Stemo on 06 February 2014, 19:27:01
I have nothing that's worth backing up.  :(
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: TheBoy on 06 February 2014, 22:02:42
My backups take place as soon as the data is moved to my NAS, and my current setup allows for 3 hard drives to fail simultaneously (a highly unlikely situation) while still maintaining data integrity.
Except that doesn't cover from disk corruption or user error.  The former was the cause of the huge outage we had early December, when an HP SMART Array card decided it was bored migrating from one RAID level to another, and decided to lock up part way through ;D
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: TheBoy on 06 February 2014, 22:04:21
To the OP, the reason for the outage today was to replace the tape drive's controller card to a higher performing one.

So, yes, I do back up to tape. On top of that, I do a lot of offsite backups for important data that I'd be seriously miffed if I lost.
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: cleggy on 06 February 2014, 22:06:53
I backup weekly to an external hard drive  :y
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 February 2014, 01:00:02
I have nothing that's worth backing up.  :(

I thought you'd lost the ability to 'back up'?  ;D
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: bigegg on 07 February 2014, 01:03:34
important files backed up to "dropbox" which has six computers linked across four sites (home, work, mums, friends).
some of which only attached/syncd once a week.
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: TheBoy on 07 February 2014, 08:41:33
important files backed up to "dropbox" which has six computers linked across four sites (home, work, mums, friends).
some of which only attached/syncd once a week.
If its important, worth considering another solution (in addition), as you still have a single point of failure - Dropbox. The connected machines will sync with what is on Dropbox, so a cock-up their end (I know of one major UK based cloud storage solution losing a load of customer data) or user error your side, will impact all files. I know you say some are only attached at certain times, but thats not foolproof.

A 2nd cloud storage account syncing the same local folder is not the answer either, for the same reason. Thats the downside of syncing, as opposed to copying :)

Obviously, it depends on the definition of "important files" as to the lengths you want to go to. But cloud storage (via automatic syncing) isn't really a viable safe backup solution. There are cloud based backup solutions that can work, using processes not dissimilar to traditional backup methods, but these tend to be quite expensive for usable amounts of capacity.
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Rods2 on 07 February 2014, 13:17:36
Use mirrored drives on my server and will do the same with my next PC which I'm putting together at the moment and also the regular backup of important data.
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 February 2014, 14:15:19
All my photos are on photobucket..... that way I can always remotely access them if my PC decides it would prefer to be a potato for any reason  :y
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 February 2014, 14:24:27
All my photos are on photobucket..... that way I can always remotely access them if my PC decides it would prefer to be a potato for any reason  :y

I was talking to someone who had an extensive photo gallery on one of the popular photo sharing sites. I think it might even have been a paid-for service.

One day the whole lot disappeared. He got on the phone to their tech support and the conversation was along the lines of:

"Where has my account gone?"
"Erm.. It's been deleted due to inappropriate content"
"But my speciality is landscape photography"
"Hmm. Let me see.. Ahh! I can see the problem. We had a complaint about an account with a similar name to yours and deleted the wrong one. Sorry. Anything else I can help you with today?"
"Can you please reactivate my account?"
"Oh, we didn't suspend it. We deleted it. Sorry."
"Can't you restore it from a backup?"
"Backup? Nope. Sorry."

OK, he had copies of his photos locally, but his work had been linked-to widely on the internet and he sold quite a few photos on the back of that.. all gone, as the links went dead and even a fresh account wouldn't have helped that.

With free stuff you get what you pay for.

if you want something doing right.... ::)
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 February 2014, 14:49:13
Ooooh! that's not good!  :'(
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Ever Ready on 07 February 2014, 17:14:59
There is an old saying in the world of computers 'The question is not will my hard drive/s die, it is when will my hard drives die?

No system is 100% fool proof, we should how ever take the measures to back up our data that befits said data, say you work in a mission critical environment then your back up systems should be as robust as is possible

On the other hand if it is just game saves, online dating ratings ;) then a less robust system could be used

I myself use a combination of server backups onto tape and other data spread across other machines, some of which are at different locations

Too many people place too much faith in online backup systems imo.  These systems use hard drives that can fail also.

Their drives may be enterprise grade with all manners of redundancy systems built in etc but unless they are kept in a fire proof location then one big bonfire and all that work is gone.

Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: pscocoa on 07 February 2014, 17:54:12
I have nothing that's worth backing up.  :(

Sheep?
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Weds on 07 February 2014, 19:39:16
I have a server running Windows Home Server (WHS) this makes images of 2 PC's and 2 lappies every day (or when they are on) From that I can either restore from an image in a few hours or find individual files from within the image..

I also rent space with Carbonite an off site server service where I back up any directory within my main PC, mainly documents and pictures.. It will automatically upload any changes made to the selected directory..

I can also access my Carbonite service from any other PC or smartphone.

As said before, not if, but when...

 
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Steve B on 07 February 2014, 20:05:21
Anyone use a online seedbox
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: AndyRoid on 07 February 2014, 20:25:34
Anyone use a online seedbox
Is that a service for cohabitating rugmunchers that want a child without any kind of real male involvement in the conception process?
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Steve B on 07 February 2014, 20:35:53
Anyone use a online seedbox
Is that a service for cohabitating rugmunchers that want a child without any kind of real male involvement in the conception process?
sort of  :y
Title: Re: Do you back up or wing it
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 February 2014, 22:38:06
Anyone use a online seedbox
Is that a service for cohabitating rugmunchers that want a child without any kind of real male involvement in the conception process?
Free turkey baster with each new account.  :D

 ;)