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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: chrisgixer on 11 February 2014, 20:55:10
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
Naturally, I don't agree.
It was very good for football fans. Dragged the presentation out of the dark ages. Put way more live game on tv, and improved the quality of prem league football.
...then they loose half the games to Setanta/Espn/Bt but don't lower the subscription to match. So I'm either paying the same for half the football, or have to pay twice as much for what I already had, once upon a time.
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Be interesting to see how this plays out, BT made the play for broadband customers to come back. It's not working so far ...
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Bt sport will get my sub at this rate, based on footy and moto gp.
Sky will loose out from this household. While its the best tv platform for me, the sports selection is shocking ATM.
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Be interesting to see how this plays out, BT made the play for broadband customers to come back. It's not working so far ...
I think it is.....with me anyway.
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
Naturally, I don't agree.
It was very good for football fans. Dragged the presentation out of the dark ages. Put way more live game on tv, and improved the quality of prem league football.
...then they loose half the games to Setanta/Espn/Bt but don't lower the subscription to match. So I'm either paying the same for half the football, or have to pay twice as much for what I already had, once upon a time.
The amount of money, IMHO, ruined the Premier League. But thats not relevant here.
However, as somebody who does not want to pay for sport, I can now get a reasonable football service for buggerall, assuming I have an internet connection with non complex needs.... ....as it happens, I can't get BT Sport :P
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It's not working so far ...
Really?
;)
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
Naturally, I don't agree.
It was very good for football fans. Dragged the presentation out of the dark ages. Put way more live game on tv, and improved the quality of prem league football.
...then they loose half the games to Setanta/Espn/Bt but don't lower the subscription to match. So I'm either paying the same for half the football, or have to pay twice as much for what I already had, once upon a time.
The amount of money, IMHO, ruined the Premier League. But thats not relevant here.
However, as somebody who does not want to pay for sport, I can now get a reasonable football service for buggerall, assuming I have an internet connection with non complex needs.... ....as it happens, I can't get BT Sport :P
My that's a lot of words ;D
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
Naturally, I don't agree.
It was very good for football fans. Dragged the presentation out of the dark ages. Put way more live game on tv, and improved the quality of prem league football.
...then they loose half the games to Setanta/Espn/Bt but don't lower the subscription to match. So I'm either paying the same for half the football, or have to pay twice as much for what I already had, once upon a time.
The amount of money, IMHO, ruined the Premier League. But thats not relevant here.
However, as somebody who does not want to pay for sport, I can now get a reasonable football service for buggerall, assuming I have an internet connection with non complex needs.... ....as it happens, I can't get BT Sport :P
My that's a lot of words ;D
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About 50, as a guess
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It's not working so far ...
Really?
;)
Sky has gained broadband subs, we got more this quater than same one two years ago. More of our customers taking the triple (phone/tv/phone)
Churn is still low, share price has bounced back.
So it is not working yet...
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Never mind that football malarkey ::) , just get us the Moto GP back on sKy and we all be happy bunny's ;)
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Never mind that football malarkey ::) , just get us the Moto GP back on sKy and we all be happy bunny's ;)
or dont make sky richer >:(
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
Google Play....DTV India (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.DWorld.DTVIndia&hl=en[/url).......all the sports you want for free (inc Sky and BT).
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Cheers Andy Roid :y
Guess which side the Man U v Arsenal game is on? Btw...?
Clue. Not Sky!
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Mind you we won't win, so probably a blessing ;D
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
Google Play....DTV India (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.DWorld.DTVIndia&hl=en[/url).......all the sports you want for free (inc Sky and BT).
That won't connect for me, tries, but without success.
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
Google Play....DTV India (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.DWorld.DTVIndia&hl=en[/url).......all the sports you want for free (inc Sky and BT).
That won't connect for me, tries, but without success.
It can be a be hit and miss, but you have several channels in each group to choose from (groups are accessed by scrolling across the top).
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It's not working so far ...
Really?
;)
Sky has gained broadband subs, we got more this quater than same one two years ago. More of our customers taking the triple (phone/tv/phone)
Churn is still low, share price has bounced back.
So it is not working yet...
Thats because those 300,000 O2 customers came under the Sky banner in December. So that gives you an idea how many Sky are losing ;D
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now a bt sport customer
sky sports cancelled. sorry, not good enough. :'(
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now a bt sport customer
sky sports cancelled. sorry, not good enough. :'(
Could have just switched broadband? Thats what many have done, kept Sky Sports, but changed to BT Broadband, as you get sports free with that.
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It's not working so far ...
Really?
;)
Sky has gained broadband subs, we got more this quater than same one two years ago. More of our customers taking the triple (phone/tv/phone)
Churn is still low, share price has bounced back.
So it is not working yet...
Thats because those 300,000 O2 customers came under the Sky banner in December. So that gives you an idea how many Sky are losing ;D
Figures I saw, showed an increase without those o2 figures included.
We saw more current TV only customers, add broadband to their bundle :)
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now a bt sport customer
sky sports cancelled. sorry, not good enough. :'(
Could have just switched broadband? Thats what many have done, kept Sky Sports, but changed to BT Broadband, as you get sports free with that.
no, needs line rental, comes to £23
...or £13 just to add it to sky package. not cheap, but I like my footy.
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Although how they can advertise bt sport for £3...? It doesn't exist at that price.
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Getting hump with this.
Paying twice the money for the same amount of football, is not good competition for the consumer.
>:(
What about those of use who refuse to pay for any TV beyond TV Tax. Sky was bad for the consumer ;)
Like me ?
For me nothing on TV is that important, except maybe the News.
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It's not working so far ...
Really?
;)
Sky has gained broadband subs, we got more this quater than same one two years ago. More of our customers taking the triple (phone/tv/phone)
Churn is still low, share price has bounced back.
So it is not working yet...
Thats because those 300,000 O2 customers came under the Sky banner in December. So that gives you an idea how many Sky are losing ;D
Figures I saw, showed an increase without those o2 figures included.
We saw more current TV only customers, add broadband to their bundle :)
I suspect some creative figures from some of your seniors looking for thier bonuses.
NDA prevents me saying, but I'm assuming all Sky BB lines are over Openreach's fibre/copper?
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Get Espn as well, as a bonus.
...of sorts :-\ ;D
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Yeah. When you get Sky BB, it is an Open Reach bod who installs it
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
with sky on the van .dont think so :y
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
with sky on the van .dont think so :y
If you read the previous posts, we were discussing broadband.
Sky Broadband, is installed by Openreach, not Sky.
But no, you don't read what goes before, just see the word Sky and just bash on about the same thing all the time.
How many times did I offer to get your install sorted? As I have for others here. (with great reports) - Sadly I wasted my time on you ::)
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
with sky on the van .dont think so :y
If you read the previous posts, we were discussing broadband.
Sky Broadband, is installed by Openreach, not Sky.
But no, you don't read what goes before, just see the word Sky and just bash on about the same thing all the time.
How many times did I offer to get your install sorted? As I have for others here. (with great reports) - Sadly I wasted my time on you ::)
and as i told you before not with rip off sky any more . >:( >:(
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Handbags at dawn gents......handbags at dawn ;D
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
with sky on the van .dont think so :y
If you read the previous posts, we were discussing broadband.
Sky Broadband, is installed by Openreach, not Sky.
But no, you don't read what goes before, just see the word Sky and just bash on about the same thing all the time.
How many times did I offer to get your install sorted? As I have for others here. (with great reports) - Sadly I wasted my time on you ::)
and if you look it started with no footy on sky not about broadband . so get your facts right ;D ;D
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and as i told you before not with rip off sky any more . >:( >:(
Who are you with now then Wilf? ... Radio Rentals or Rediffusion? ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/rofl.gif)
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and as i told you before not with rip off sky any more . >:( >:(
Who are you with now then Wilf? ... Radio Rentals or Rediffusion? ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/rofl.gif)
free view no trouble there ;D ;D
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
or sky send someone out who cant be botherd to do the job tidy ;D ;D
Same people BT use ::)
with sky on the van .dont think so :y
If you read the previous posts, we were discussing broadband.
Sky Broadband, is installed by Openreach, not Sky.
But no, you don't read what goes before, just see the word Sky and just bash on about the same thing all the time.
How many times did I offer to get your install sorted? As I have for others here. (with great reports) - Sadly I wasted my time on you ::)
and if you look it started with no footy on sky not about broadband . so get your facts right ;D ;D
Yeah and it changed, as many of our threads do. ::)
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
For ADSL services, Sky just send the router, customer installs.
For Fibre services, Sky get BT Openreach to fit the vDSL modem (aka Openreach Modem) and NTE5 faceplate, and send the router to the customer for them to plug in.
This is no different to any other ISP, except BT Retail no longer get Openreach to fit a modem (but an Openreach engr still needed for the install).
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Or they send the box out by post, and the customer just plugs it in?
For ADSL services, Sky just send the router, customer installs.
For Fibre services, Sky get BT Openreach to fit the vDSL modem (aka Openreach Modem) and NTE5 faceplate, and send the router to the customer for them to plug in.
This is no different to any other ISP, except BT Retail no longer get Openreach to fit a modem (but an Openreach engr still needed for the install).
Ah, yes, I see :y
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BT said they would deliver my modem kit yesterday, nothing has arrived yet ::)
Openreach bod booked here for Tuesday, not sure what they will actually do. Already a Openreach branded socket on the wall, not sure if previous owners had fibre though.
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If it is a BT home hub 5 you do not have the open reach modem anymore and no need for BT to do anything
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Dont bite the hand that feeds you.....rings a bell here ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If it is a BT home hub 5 you do not have the open reach modem anymore and no need for BT to do anything
What I thought, maybe as a new owner/line, things need to be done ?
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BT said they would deliver my modem kit yesterday, nothing has arrived yet ::)
Openreach bod booked here for Tuesday, not sure what they will actually do. Already a Openreach branded socket on the wall, not sure if previous owners had fibre though.
If you need the modem, OR engr will bring. You should receive the hub a few days before. As said, if HH5, that doesn't need the modem.
If no fibre has been fitted there before, OR engr still needs to rejumper in cabinet.
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To clarify, the OR modem belongs to OR. No ISP will post you and OR modem, only OR supply them, and the engr will bring.
In tunnies case, its likely he'll get HH5, thus no OR modem required.
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Install due Tuesday, no HH5 delivered yet. Suspect previous owners just had standard ASDL, no fibre.
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Strange that nothing has arrived Tunnie - have you got an order ref you can track on line. Sounds like they are coming out and bringing everything with them.
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Strange that nothing has arrived Tunnie - have you got an order ref you can track on line. Sounds like they are coming out and bringing everything with them.
OR will not supply a hub. OR will bring a modem with them if reqd, but not reqd in this case.
BT Retail send the hub
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Not impressed so far, a multitude of reference/VOL/order numbers, hardly clear.
Sooo BT say:
Equipment ordered:
BT Home Hub 5
Dispatched by Royal Mail Tracked:
Tracking ref: FFxxxxxxxxxxGB
Delivery date:
Fri 14 Feb 2014
Royal Mail say:
Item FFxxxxxxxxxxGB arrived at Yorkshire Distribution Centre on the 2014-02-15 and we are currently processing it.
Be lucky for HH5 to arrive in time!
Also, I booked this around 4 weeks ago, this was the earliest slot they could do!
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Amazon are sending emails saying stuff will be delayed due to the floods. Not surprising really.
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Not impressed so far, a multitude of reference/VOL/order numbers, hardly clear.
Sooo BT say:
Equipment ordered:
BT Home Hub 5
Dispatched by Royal Mail Tracked:
Tracking ref: FFxxxxxxxxxxGB
Delivery date:
Fri 14 Feb 2014
Royal Mail say:
Item FFxxxxxxxxxxGB arrived at Yorkshire Distribution Centre on the 2014-02-15 and we are currently processing it.
Be lucky for HH5 to arrive in time!
Also, I booked this around 4 weeks ago, this was the earliest slot they could do!
RM's "signed for" tracking has got bad lately. One of my packages is still on its way to me, despite me signing for it on Wednesday :o
Hopefully there tomorrow. BT do not send out too far in advance, its supposed to be the usual JIT deliveries.
Coupled with the weather, just shows what a success BT Sport has been :-X
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I still wonder what percentage of BT's Sport's 'subscribers' are just people renewing their subscription, therefore getting BT Sport. As figures I've seen, show churn at normal rate, it's not increased.
That said, wonder if people are keeping Sky, but dropping sport as like Chris did and switching to BT Sport, but still keeping the Sky subscription.
As our TV numbers for subscription services are still going up.
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I still wonder what percentage of BT's Sport's 'subscribers' are just people renewing their subscription, therefore getting BT Sport. As figures I've seen, show churn at normal rate, it's not increased.
That said, wonder if people are keeping Sky, but dropping sport as like Chris did and switching to BT Sport, but still keeping the Sky subscription.
As our TV numbers for subscription services are still going up.
I wasn't speaking about Sport. I have to listen to managers to hear Sport figures. Broadband figures, however, :-X
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Still no HH5 delivery, can't see it getting here in time really.
Would the Openreach bod have spare HH's?
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Still no HH5 delivery, can't see it getting here in time really.
Would the Openreach bod have spare HH's?
Doubt it. An Openreach guy couldn't possibly carry every router that every ISP (that uses OR) uses :-\
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Still no HH5 delivery, can't see it getting here in time really.
Would the Openreach bod have spare HH's?
Doubt it. An Openreach guy couldn't possibly carry every router that every ISP (that uses OR) uses :-\
Still nothing, rang up at lunch. Informed he will have a spare onboard ???
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Still no HH5 delivery, can't see it getting here in time really.
Would the Openreach bod have spare HH's?
Doubt it. An Openreach guy couldn't possibly carry every router that every ISP (that uses OR) uses :-\
Still nothing, rang up at lunch. Informed he will have a spare onboard ???
Not sure what OFCOM would have to say about that, as OR are supposed to be independent, and treating all ISPs the same.
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Talk about just in time, HH5 delivered 9AM, bod in van turned up at around 10:15! ;D
Not bad results:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3315191422.png)
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That'll drop down soon
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and you might want to share a bit with Mr Gixer - currently camped out in his pigeon loft
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Footy on ITV tonight, and sky tomorrow. None for these fellas who've gone with BT.
That was nearly footsie, fickin iPad.
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Yeah but I get Sky on BT ::) ;D
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Yeah but I get Sky on BT ::) ;D
Yeah....and loads of Apple stuff, but there are others on here.
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and you might want to share a bit with Mr Gixer - currently camped out in his pigeon loft
Er, Speckled Jim is currently delivering at 10mbs I'll have you know. :P
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Talk about just in time, HH5 delivered 9AM, bod in van turned up at around 10:15! ;D
Not bad results:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3315191422.png)
Cable or wifi, as that upload looks appalling, and the download doesn't look great. Also, those OKLA speedtesters are utter shite, as most providers frig them ::)
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WiFi about 6 feet from router, WiFi is useable upstairs. Drops to 47 though.
Full beans Fibre
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WiFi about 6 feet from router, WiFi is useable upstairs. Drops to 47 though.
Full beans Fibre
Plug a proper PC into ethernet port and rerun test
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As I suspect you are hitting a wifi limit
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WiFi about 6 feet from router, WiFi is useable upstairs. Drops to 47 though.
Full beans Fibre
Plug a proper PC into ethernet port and rerun test
Will do once I get my Media PC up and running :y