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Title: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2014, 20:05:12
Anyone got a service manual?

Got a strange fault where sometimes (about once a week) the machine goes through to just the start of the spin cycle (we believe, never happens if we keep an eye on it), at the point where its rotating the drum slowly and pumping out, but never gets into the spin. It just gets stuck at this stage, slowly rotating drum, and drain pump running, even after 3hrs. All we can do is pull the plug.

Self test completes with no error code.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: b4ndit on 12 February 2014, 20:17:01
try this www.hotpointservice.co.uk/manual :y
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: AndyRoid on 12 February 2014, 20:22:22
We had the same issue with a Beko.

Support advice was to power down (at isolator), wait 30 seconds, power up (at isolator), hold start button, switch machine on, and release start button after 20 seconds which results in a "factory reset" taking place.

Maybe yours has a similar procedure for a software reset?
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Steve B on 12 February 2014, 20:29:09
Not even worth leaving it out for the pikeys with these winds....
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 12 February 2014, 20:35:23
How old is it?  ::)

Tho saying that my Bosch WM is over 15 years old .... and after i was advised on OOF to change the brushes on the motor it is still going strong  :y
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2014, 20:45:58
try this www.hotpointservice.co.uk/manual :y
SERVICE manual, not user manaul :)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2014, 20:47:46
We had the same issue with a Beko.

Support advice was to power down (at isolator), wait 30 seconds, power up (at isolator), hold start button, switch machine on, and release start button after 20 seconds which results in a "factory reset" taking place.

Maybe yours has a similar procedure for a software reset?
I think the self test does that, so will have to see. We've been unplugging it when not in use recently in order to overcome this
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2014, 20:48:13
How old is it?  ::)

Tho saying that my Bosch WM is over 15 years old .... and after i was advised on OOF to change the brushes on the motor it is still going strong  :y
About 12yrs.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Andy H on 12 February 2014, 21:40:04
I have a WMA60.

5 years ago I replaced the drum bearings then a few months later moved house. Soon after that it would get through the wash but cut out when it tried to start a spin.

It turned out that the bundle of cables from the speed controller to the motor had partially frayed through against one of the concrete weights. I did a quick repair and it has worked fine ever since.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Ever Ready on 12 February 2014, 22:37:20
Is all the water being emptied out of the drum?

Is there any water left in the drum after you have stopped it by turning it off?

I don't know about your particular machine but the ones I have had or repaired either had a faulty drain pump or a faulty water level switch which stops the machine going into a full speed spin
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Ever Ready on 12 February 2014, 22:40:53
http://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/hotpoint/washing-machines/wma60/parts/ys14907/hotpoint-wma60-service-manual-C00220972.aspx

Bit pricey at £26 odd quid though :o
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 February 2014, 10:05:41
Does it actualy finish the spin?

If not, check the motor brushes, common to wear down on these and easy to change (I have a spare motor with nearly new brushes if you want it).

Is that wanky sump like rubber filter thing blocked?

Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 13 February 2014, 18:17:33
Does it actualy finish the spin?

If not, check the motor brushes, common to wear down on these and easy to change (I have a spare motor with nearly new brushes if you want it).

Is that wanky sump like rubber filter thing blocked?
That was one of my thoughts, but its as if it doesn't attempt to move on from the initial very slow spin at the very start of the spin cycle to the proper spins.

I need to pull it out and pull the pipe off the sump, but when it works (which is most of the time), it seems to chuck water down the drain at a good enough rate, so I've half discounted a blockage in the waste side.

Although symptoms are different, I'm thinking along the lines of Andy H, esp as Mrs TB often overloads it. Was after manual for stripdown...  ...the one and only time I've stripped this machine, I was so phished, I can't remember how I did it  :-[
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 13 February 2014, 18:18:10
http://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/hotpoint/washing-machines/wma60/parts/ys14907/hotpoint-wma60-service-manual-C00220972.aspx

Bit pricey at £26 odd quid though :o
Can pick up for £21, but thats way more than I want to pay for such a pamphlet.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Ever Ready on 13 February 2014, 18:48:43
Sure is a bit steep :)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 13 February 2014, 18:53:58
Pity you have lost Sammy  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 February 2014, 19:00:11
http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/home-repair-manual-on-cd-for-the-hotpoint-wma60-62-64-74-67187299.htm

£6 ?
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2014, 08:05:28
You dont need a manual for the strip down, youtube has videos for drum removal and once that is out there is bugger all left.  ;D
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Stemo on 14 February 2014, 10:32:14
The programmer on my hotpoint was messing about, causing all kinds of weird behaviour. I popped the switch controller off with a flat knife and gave it a good dose of WD40, jiggled it around a few times and it's good as gold now.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Ever Ready on 14 February 2014, 10:37:26
http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/home-repair-manual-on-cd-for-the-hotpoint-wma60-62-64-74-67187299.htm

£6 ?

Looks like it would be worth a punt
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 February 2014, 10:56:11
Just take it apart!  What can possibly go wrong......  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2014, 11:01:52
The programmer on my hotpoint was messing about, causing all kinds of weird behaviour. I popped the switch controller off with a flat knife and gave it a good dose of WD40, jiggled it around a few times and it's good as gold now.

Electronic programmers on these, there pretty much trouble free to.

I cant see that you need a manual, its a washing machine, not an overly complex device in reality and if you can find how to pop the front off and even remove the drum assembly (all available for no cost) then its plain sailing.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Andy H on 21 December 2015, 21:03:43
Have you fixed it?

I might have a few spare parts  ::)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Matchless on 22 December 2015, 13:55:32
Small pipe that leads to the water level sensor blocked with soap etc?
Pull it off the sensor / switch and blow through it to check it is clear.

If m/c 'thinks' it still has water in the drum it wont go onto the fast spin.

That or motor brushes - never understood the many and varied faults that worn brushes threw up but I used to keep a spare motor under the kitchen cupboards for a rapid change over.
Oh, and dont just fit new brushes to these without cleaning out the old carbon dust first, if you leave the dust in there they flash-over and kill the speed controller board.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Matchless on 22 December 2015, 13:56:32
Hang on.... this is an ancient thread, surely TB isn't still trapped under his Hotpoint is he?
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: zirk on 22 December 2015, 15:09:50
Hang on.... this is an ancient thread, surely TB isn't still trapped under his Hotpoint is he?
Well if he is, he's been under there for nearly 2 years.  ::) didn't think Hotpoints lasted that long.
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: Matchless on 22 December 2015, 15:39:41
Hang on.... this is an ancient thread, surely TB isn't still trapped under his Hotpoint is he?
Well if he is, he's been under there for nearly 2 years.  ::) didn't think Hotpoints lasted that long.

<panto mode> Oh yes they do
(if you change the brushes, the bearings, the brushes again, the drum dampers, the brushes again, the bearings again, the door seal, the bearings again (this time use epoxy metal to stick them in because corrosion has eaten the housing), the brushes again.....)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: zirk on 22 December 2015, 16:10:07
You forgot about the plastic door handle.  ::)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 22 December 2015, 17:34:39
Have you fixed it?

I might have a few spare parts  ::)
Yes. But something else then failed a few months ago, so my plasma cutter fixed it properly, and the council just thought the wheelie bin was heavy ::)
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: henryd on 22 December 2015, 18:16:03
Have you fixed it?

I might have a few spare parts  ::)
Yes. But something else then failed a few months ago, so my plasma cutter fixed it properly, and the council just thought the wheelie bin was heavy ::)

Couldn't you have used the steel to make arches for the bullet?!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hotpoint WMA60
Post by: TheBoy on 22 December 2015, 18:17:34
Have you fixed it?

I might have a few spare parts  ::)
Yes. But something else then failed a few months ago, so my plasma cutter fixed it properly, and the council just thought the wheelie bin was heavy ::)

Couldn't you have used the steel to make arches for the bullet?!!!!!!
Not sure which had the most rust on ;D