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Title: Break down
Post by: BazaJT on 15 February 2014, 16:32:39
Went out to car this morning and it started just fine,drove about 4mls and parked up,went shopping for an hour or so got back to car and although it turned over well enough it wouldn't start.After a further quarter hour or so it started up as though nothing had happened,then drove about another10 mls and parked up waiting for the dragonlady for a couple of hours,car was then very difficult to start but eventually did and ran fine for about another 3mls when it just died[on a very busy roundabout too!]managed to coast it off roundabout and called AA.He didn't even bother to look at it[although in fairness we were in a fairly precarious place to be fixing a car]and towed us the couple of miles to home.Am I right in thinking crank sensor?As long as weather is o.k. tomorrow I might change it anyway as I've got a spare in the glovebox[seemed to be advised on here to carry one so I did!]
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2014, 16:41:14
Classic crank sensor :y
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: BazaJT on 15 February 2014, 16:53:08
That's what I figured from the stuff I've read in various posts on here.Another new one on me is towing a car with an auto box.I always thought this to be a big no-no unless the drive wheels were off the floor or the prop shaft was disconnected,the AA man looked it up on his computer and said that you could tow a Mig auto at up to 50m.p.h.for up to 50miles.Now we were only towed for a couple of miles at less than 40 m.p.h.,but still I hope he was right!
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2014, 17:05:17
Towing an auto with the propshaft connected is less than ideal, but for that distance should be ok :y
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 15 February 2014, 19:16:46
Blimey i didnt know there were problems towing an auto , glad ive found out , this is my first auto ive owned ,had it 3 years luckily without any need to tow :o
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2014, 19:32:11
Blimey i didnt know there were problems towing an auto , glad ive found out ,  .......

It does say in the manual  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2014, 19:45:04
Blimey i didnt know there were problems towing an auto , glad ive found out ,  .......

It does say in the manual  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
There's a manual  :o
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: omega3000 on 15 February 2014, 19:50:36
Blimey i didnt know there were problems towing an auto , glad ive found out ,  .......

It does say in the manual  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
There's a manual  :o

Yes its oof  ;D
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 15 February 2014, 19:53:24
i'll have to have a read ;) To save me reading what does it state ;D
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2014, 20:05:25
i'll have to have a read ;) To save me reading what does it state ;D
When you find it let me know what it looks like so that I might recognise it ;D
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: M Kerr on 15 February 2014, 20:19:50
Just for interes Baza, I'd like to hear the outcome after crank sensor changed.  Sounds like the number 1 suspect...
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 15 February 2014, 20:20:09
i knew i wasn't alone ;D ;D
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2014, 21:00:42
i'll have to have a read ;) To save me reading what does it state ;D
When you find it let me know what it looks like so that I might recognise it ;D

I thought everybody just knew about not towing autos too far or too fast  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Stemo on 15 February 2014, 21:08:15
i'll have to have a read ;) To save me reading what does it state ;D
When you find it let me know what it looks like so that I might recognise it ;D

I thought everybody just knew about not towing autos too far or too fast  ::) ::)
Mines a manual but it still says to raise the front when towing (put it on a dolly).
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2014, 21:11:51
Old school mechanical autos can be tow started :y

The electrickery in newer ones is a bit over sensitive to such brutality ;D
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 15 February 2014, 21:19:01
Just read manual, does state 50mph max and 60miles max , if i was being towed in any car thats plenty fast enough/far enough for me so didn't need to worry :) :)
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Entwood on 15 February 2014, 21:24:45
If you are EVER offered a tow of more then 5 miles .... do your best to turn it down..... !!

What folks forget, is that whilst being towed on either a rope (bloody dangerous) or even on a bar (much safer) with the engine stopped the power steering does not work .... after about 5 miles the arms are aching and the blood pressure is rising .....

BTW .. before anyone comments .. the reason a rope tow of an Omega is bloody dangerous is the brakes will, effectively, cease to work after the 3rd press... at least on a bar tow there is a chance of stopping !!!
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 February 2014, 21:35:03
If you are EVER offered a tow of more then 5 miles .... do your best to turn it down..... !!

What folks forget, is that whilst being towed on either a rope (bloody dangerous) or even on a bar (much safer) with the engine stopped the power steering does not work .... after about 5 miles the arms are aching and the blood pressure is rising .....

BTW .. before anyone comments .. the reason a rope tow of an Omega is bloody dangerous is the brakes will, effectively, cease to work after the 3rd press... at least on a bar tow there is a chance of stopping the bar folding up!!!

Fixed. :y

Agreed regarding the effort involved, though.
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2014, 21:47:29
If you are EVER offered a tow of more then 5 miles .... do your best to turn it down..... !!

What folks forget, is that whilst being towed on either a rope (bloody dangerous) or even on a bar (much safer) with the engine stopped the power steering does not work .... after about 5 miles the arms are aching and the blood pressure is rising .....

BTW .. before anyone comments .. the reason a rope tow of an Omega is bloody dangerous is the brakes will, effectively, cease to work after the 3rd press... at least on a bar tow there is a chance of stopping !!!

As you suggest ... you're very quickly reminded that there's no assistance when being towed. I forget now whether we used a bar or a rope when I ripped the sump plug from my car & needed to be towed home by my Dad. I know it was bloody hard work stopping it.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2014, 21:49:32
.... at least on a bar tow there is a chance of stopping the bar folding up!!!

Fixed. :y

Agreed regarding the effort involved, though.
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Done that too ..... a cheap sprung thing from Machine Mart.

I always wish I'd made one  :(
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: BazaJT on 16 February 2014, 15:28:07
So,up this morning ready to fight the good fight and fit a crank sensor.Now where's my sockets?Sugar they're in the boot of the Jaguar which is being kept off road 2 miles away!Set off for the walk and part way there it began to rain,by the time I got back home I was wet through and just as I got in the door it stopped raining!!!Let things be for a while to make sure rain wasn't going to start again then went to make a start.Jack up car,place axle stand under it and also leave trolley jack in place as a "belt and braces"approach.Crawl under car to find my sockets only go as small as a ten and I need an eight!Double sugar!!So leave car up in air put tools in boot and set off on another mile walk to Halfords,purchase said socket[£3.49!]and return to the fray.Engine end out time to be under bonnet for electrical connector,where the hell is it?It's nowhere near the bracket above the coil pack,finally found it under other pipework/electrical wiring back up against the bulkhead.I'm guessing the failed sensor was the original as it was routed up behind exhaust etc.Right so that's fitted with the wiring routed out to the inner wing and up over cable tray,scuttle and wipers back on and car dropped back onto floor.Time then to go for an engine start and hope that a]It was indeed a crank sensor problem that caused the breakdown and b]that I've done everything right!Turn key engine spins once,engine spins twice,engine spins for a thir no she's up and running!!!Nice even beat,steady tick over drives like a good 'un.What a relief!!Had I not been a member on here and read all these posts about such things I'd have had to pay someone to diagnose/fix problem and might well have got ripped off in the process.Once again the power of OOF and the spirit of it's members in sharing their knowledge shines through!!
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Shackeng on 17 February 2014, 10:35:51
Well done Baz, you certainly suffered enough getting that fixed. I keep a spare crank sensor in the boot of the 3.2, and a set of tools on long journeys. :y :y :y

PS I've lived in Epworth & Haxey
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: BazaJT on 17 February 2014, 19:52:38
Yes I think my next purchase for the Mig will be another crank sensor to replace the "spare" I've just fitted.Ah,Haxey not the place for a gentle stroll on the streets when the "Haxey Hood"is on the go!!!
Title: Re: Break down
Post by: Shackeng on 19 February 2014, 19:03:08
Yes I think my next purchase for the Mig will be another crank sensor to replace the "spare" I've just fitted.Ah,Haxey not the place for a gentle stroll on the streets when the "Haxey Hood"is on the go!!!

I played in that before Elf & Safety got their hands on it! Not for wimps, only idiots. I was both! :y