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Title: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 11:01:12
No lights on dashboard, car cranks over ok and fires for 1 second or so and then stops.

Not Omega, but the VW forums don't seem to have any thoughts so thought I would try here. If its not allowed then please delete :-)

Many thanks

Steve
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: andymp on 18 February 2014, 11:32:29
Fuel lift pump...?
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 13:43:06
Good call, I will have a check. Slightly puzzled as to why non of the normal dash lights come on when switching ignition on though.

Steve
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Ever Ready on 18 February 2014, 17:13:20
Bit strange that you get no dash lights, although you can crank the engine over you may not be energising certain units that need to have power eg fuel pump as stated 
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 21:01:59
Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the  immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 21:05:31
Thank you TB :-)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: henryd on 18 February 2014, 21:09:12
Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the  immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve
You could do with vagcom or similar being plugged and a global scan carried out,that should give you some idea as to what bits aren't working
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 21:20:55
I just tried downloading the free version, but it does not seem to recognise my Gendan EOBD interface unfortunately.

Maybe time to find someone who can :-)

Steve

Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: hoofing it on 18 February 2014, 21:44:01
No lights on dashboard, car cranks over ok and fires for 1 second or so and then stops.

Not Omega, but the VW forums don't seem to have any thoughts so thought I would try here. If its not allowed then please delete :-)

Many thanks

Steve
Immobiliser problem here.
Does the key fob work ok
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: DrAndyB on 18 February 2014, 21:52:29
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire.  Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's  :D. Spookily I have a  VW Touran too!  But not a patch on my Omega V6  :y which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum  :y.

Good luck.

Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: tidla on 18 February 2014, 23:08:02
Engine number and mileage?

At a guess some of the engines have a shut off flap in the air intake manifold which fails to open due to carbon build up. push the flap arm to confirm. Gives the start for a second symptom.
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Vamps on 18 February 2014, 23:34:18
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire.  Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's  :D. Spookily I have a  VW Touran too!  But not a patch on my Omega V6  :y which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum  :y.

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr........... :D :D :D
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Andy B on 18 February 2014, 23:37:55
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire.  Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's  :D. Spookily I have a  VW Touran too!  But not a patch on my Omega V6  :y which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum  :y.

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr........... :D :D :D

SWMBO has family around & they needed to be spoken to  ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Vamps on 19 February 2014, 00:19:18
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire.  Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's  :D. Spookily I have a  VW Touran too!  But not a patch on my Omega V6  :y which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum  :y.

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr........... :D :D :D

SWMBO has family around & they needed to be spoken to  ::) ::) ::) ;)

 :D :D ;)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: henryd on 19 February 2014, 00:23:42
Engine number and mileage?

At a guess some of the engines have a shut off flap in the air intake manifold which fails to open due to carbon build up. push the flap arm to confirm. Gives the start for a second symptom.

Good call,they do indeed have that flap go faulty but doesn't explain lack of dash lights
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: hoody on 19 February 2014, 01:39:14
Faulty instrument cluster :'(,linked to immobiliser,try a battery disconnect or take the cluster out and check for dampness/leave it near a radiator a while and try it again.
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: DrAndyB on 20 February 2014, 18:28:05


Yep a Dr.   :). And cough sir  ;)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Vamps on 20 February 2014, 23:15:56


Yep a Dr.   :). And cough sir  ;)

You need to warm those hands first....... :P :P :P
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 22 February 2014, 17:53:19
Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the  immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve

Does that include the 'big' fuses near the battery??

I had similar on a vectra, wouldnt start and no dash lights......found a 30/40/50/60 amp (cannot remember which) fuse blown near the battery .... replaced it and away it went ....
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 February 2014, 18:00:40
Transits are good at that if you go straight from key in to crank rather than letting the ignition switch on step by step ::)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 24 February 2014, 10:26:18
Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Beno148 on 03 November 2019, 18:56:32
Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Did you manage to get this sorted?

Same happened to ours and then started again next day.

Thank you

Ben
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: STEMO on 03 November 2019, 20:56:13
Holy thread resurrection, Batman  ;D
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 November 2019, 00:01:12
The power of google!  :y

And we'll be waiting with baited breath to see if Ben gets his answer!  :)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: TheBoy on 04 November 2019, 19:23:20
Ben's post reinstated, I think it was erroneously marked as spam before.

I think the OP still gets on here occasionally :)
Title: Re: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard
Post by: steve6367 on 25 June 2020, 10:17:27
Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve

Hi Ben, kind of - took the cluster out and in a few times and it started and has done since this post. However the cluster lights and sounds don't work. Hey ho it passed several MOTs!

Steve

Hi Steve,

Did you manage to get this sorted?

Same happened to ours and then started again next day.

Thank you

Ben