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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Andy663 on 02 March 2014, 14:51:51
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Looking for budget tyres, fully fitted, 235 45 R17. Kwik Fit seems to have the best price of £65 per tyre. Does anyone else know of a cheaper supplier?
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Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG do you realise what you have started????????????????????
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No, what?
PS Didn't know ASDA fitted tyres!
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Pasted from the approved tyre thread. :)
The basis of this is minimal tramlining. Grip level as per group.
MUST BE VARIFIED BY TWO DIFFERENT MEMBERS
These tyres have been tested or owned ( which ever ) by Chrisgixer Taxi Al and TheBoy, vxlv6 , dbug, Mv6Matt Pauls and Entwood so far.
Premium
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Oe 17" 235/45R17 97 Y Extra Load - max load 730 Kg
Continental Sc3 mo Front 18" 8j 245/40/18. 93y(rim protection)
Continental Sc3 Mo Rear 18" 9j 265/35/18 97Y Extra load.
continental Sc3 generic Oe 17"
Dunlop sport maxx TT. Oe 17" 235/45/17 94Y
Michelin Pilot Primacy 225 55 16 OE 16" (expensive, and better available)
Pirelli P zero, Oe 17" 235 45 17 r 97w
Mid range
Kumho ku31 Oe 17"
Pirelli p6000. Oe 17"
Budget
Runway Enduro 916+ 97W XL Oe 235/45/17 ET33 (priced as budget, mid range quality )
Oe 225/55/16 ET35?
245/40/18 ET33 Irmscher Stila 8J x 18"
Accelera Alphas Oe 16"
Toyo proxy t1r. Oe 17"
Nexen CP461 Oe 16" 225/55/16 (speed and rating no longer
available) (caution in standing water)
Westlake sv308 Oe17" 235 45 ZR17 97W M+S (test for no Tramlining
only )
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Better have the original thread, thinking about it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=111577.0
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Just had a look at the original thread on tyres, and there is a lot of mentions about setting up suspension and steering
for the different tyres. Sounds interesting. Is there a thread about this anywhere.
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If you got a spare few months...................... :-X :-X
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Fit what you can afford. :y
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Just had a look at the original thread on tyres, and there is a lot of mentions about setting up suspension and steering
for the different tyres. Sounds interesting. Is there a thread about this anywhere.
The premise of a suitable tyre is that first and foremost the suspension is in good order and the geometry set to Wheels In Motions' specs, and on that basis, the recommended tyres should show no wandering traits or odd handling symptoms when pressing on.
Different people expect different things from their tyres, some accept grip over longevity at any cost, whereas others want maximum mileage for minimum price, so beyond the first two requirements value for money comes into play...
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If forking out for tyres, first off its worth checking the car suspension and steering for faults. Because the car will likely need set ANYWAY.
Best tyre life comes from good set up, which is reliant on good compenents like bushes, ball joints, shocks and springs etc.
Check and replace any worn components
Set up
New tyres
All in FAQ
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90492.0
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Tunnie is the man to ask , he gets a lot of longevity from tyres ;)
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Well so far in just over 25k on the transit,still have 1 front and rear original,1 rear replaced due to puncture and front due to tread limit.....
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I can thoroughly recommend Accelera Alpha's if you like going sideways in the wet (especially with an automatic)!
I have them on the back of mine and they are sooo much fun ;D :D ;D
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Could do worse on a budget...
http://www.blackcircles.com/order/tyres/search
Runway Performance 926 £67.85, fitted...
Nothing special, but perfectly adequate for plodding around :-\
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Fit what you can afford. :y
You can't say that! Don't you realise that there are people on here who's sole purpose in life is to spout shite about tyres. Wash your mouth out!
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Tunnie is the man to ask , he gets a lot of longevity from tyres ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
It's just unlike some I read the road ahead and don't have a ON/OFF button for the throttle ::)
The way the OP posted sounds like they want cheap as possible, not a good idea on the Omega really. I'd highly rate Kumo's got their '31's' on the 2.2 and 39's(i think!) on the 3.0 Estate. They perform well, silent at speed, good grip in both wet and dry for the average driver and not mid-life crisis boy racer type, I'd go with these :y
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Try here ... just look at prices before decrying .. I was very surprised, they were £50 a tyre cheaper for me, and that was not on the budget range ... so the budget range might be worth your while ...
http://www.asdatyres.co.uk
They do a "Jinyu" at £50.00 !!! (although I've never heard of the brand !!)
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
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Could do worse on a budget...
http://www.blackcircles.com/order/tyres/search
Runway Performance 926 £67.85, fitted...
Nothing special, but perfectly adequate for plodding around :-\
Found some even cheaper :D http://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/tyres/brand/westlake/westlake-sa05-xl/225-55WR16-99W-xl
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
You misunderstand. I have a set on the rear of one Omega, and its fine. Not superb, but pretty reasonable.
I have a set on the rear of the other, and they are disappointing.
Hence, the same tyre, effectively on the same car, but different results. Hence, potential for disarray in our joint attempt to catalogue tyres :'(
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
You misunderstand. I have a set on the rear of one Omega, and its fine. Not superb, but pretty reasonable.
I have a set on the rear of the other, and they are disappointing.
Hence, the same tyre, effectively on the same car, but different results. Hence, potential for disarray in our joint attempt to catalogue tyres :'(
Guessing, but do you need mv6 lsc springs on the rear...?
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Guessing, but do you need mv6 lsc springs on the rear...?
Being lower/firmer, I'd expect the problematic car to provide better traction and resilience to sideways slip. Maybe its too firm :-\
The car that works has standard non-self levelling springs, coupled with B4s.
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Guessing, but do you need mv6 lsc springs on the rear...?
Being lower/firmer, I'd expect the problematic car to provide better traction and resilience to sideways slip. Maybe its too firm :-\
The car that works has standard non-self levelling springs, coupled with B4s.
So, YES, then. :)
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
effectively on the same car, but different results. Hence, potential for disarray in our joint attempt to catalogue tyres :'(
Not really though? Completely different size for starters ???
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
effectively on the same car, but different results. Hence, potential for disarray in our joint attempt to catalogue tyres :'(
Not really though? Completely different size for starters ???
Ride height is different. So WILL be a different camber setting on the lower car. Mr TB admin sir is aware of the fix. Well, if he wasn't before, he is now.
As said a lot recently, the rear will not take more than 20mm lowering and remain in spec.
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 235/45/17 .. Would recommend, Pricey but they seem like they are worth it so far :y
I'm having variable results with these, which are likely to through the whole tyre threads into disarray ::)
At the budget end, the Runway Enduros that Taxi Al mentioned or the Accelera Alphas are better than most on Omegas at the budget end. Although wet weather grip is not great, they are not as dire as most budget offerings. Kumhos are OK, but more midrange, and lack feedback when they are about to kill you.
Not disputing you have doubts about these .. but then again, you do have a "particular" driving style that demands "particular" tyre characteristics ..... :)
Others may be able to survive quite adequately on a lesser tyre .... :)
effectively on the same car, but different results. Hence, potential for disarray in our joint attempt to catalogue tyres :'(
Not really though? Completely different size for starters ???
Ride height is different. So WILL be a different camber setting on the lower car. Mr TB admin sir is aware of the fix. Well, if he wasn't before, he is now.
As said a lot recently, the rear will not take more than 20mm lowering and remain in spec.
Plans afoot :)
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Hi,
Kumho fine, but before you by cheaper read some ADAC tests!
You will find good tyers and see the rubbish too.
Do not forget you have to stop too!
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Hi,
Kumho fine, but before you by cheaper read some ADAC tests!
You will find good tyers and see the rubbish too.
Do not forget you have to stop too!
Without going off on one, tyre tests are largely irrelevant... Unless they're carried out using a similar chassis, so BMW 5 series/Merc E class. Any test using a fwd grotbox means nothing :y
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Hi,
Kumho fine, but before you by cheaper read some ADAC tests!
You will find good tyers and see the rubbish too.
Do not forget you have to stop too!
Without going off on one, tyre tests are largely irrelevant... Unless they're carried out using a similar chassis, so BMW 5 series/Merc E class. Any test using a fwd grotbox means nothing :y
Indeed, the newer conti sc5 is a disaster on the omega, as I'm sure a certain member here will report. Might work well on smaller front wheel drive cars in the tests, but a small front wheel drive car, the omega is not. The dynamics of a front wheel drive car are very different.
Obviously there is not a single tyre test available on a current tyre model for the omega. So its best to ignore tests, in favour of first hand experience.
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Hi,
Kumho fine, but before you by cheaper read some ADAC tests!
You will find good tyers and see the rubbish too.
Do not forget you have to stop too!
If we're talking about KU31s, then yes, not too bad, although offer no feedback as TheBoy eludes. You need to know what you can get away with or be ready with the opposite lock.
I have KU39s at the moment and really wouldn't advise fitting them to an Omega until I've figured out why my car is driving like it's on a skid pan. ;D
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Hi,
Kumho fine, but before you by cheaper read some ADAC tests!
You will find good tyers and see the rubbish too.
Do not forget you have to stop too!
If we're talking about KU31s, then yes, not too bad, although offer no feedback as TheBoy eludes. You need to know what you can get away with or be ready with the opposite lock.
I have KU39s at the moment and really wouldn't advise fitting them to an Omega until I've figured out why my car is driving like it's on a skid pan. ;D
Got KU39's on the 3.0 Estate, we find them excellent for the estate, low road noise and good grip for us. But maybe different for MV6 and saloon when a hurry on is needed :-\
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Ok,
But he wants cheap ones!
This is big car.
I prefer conti and dunlop, but that is my choice.
Before i buy something check more info, like test, recom.
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Ok,
But he wants cheap ones!
This is big car.
I prefer conti and dunlop, but that is my choice.
Before i buy something check more info, like test, recom.
If you read the thread, it's largely agreed that tyre tests are irrelevant, unless on a very similar chassis. Tyres which got 'excellent' reviews, have proved shocking for the Omega.
It's a big heavy RWD car, given our often wet conditions, cheap tyres are not a good idea. I've had my 2.2 which can just about pull the skin of a bowl of soup, very sideways in little rain with budget tyres ;)
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Ok,
But he wants cheap ones!
This is big car.
I prefer conti and dunlop, but that is my choice.
Before i buy something check more info, like test, recom.
As said, and the info given, tests can and do lead astray. Fit the best tyres for a given budget. Fitting cheap tyres purely because they are cheap is just daft. Further though, cheap tyres are very deceiving in that they give quite acceptable grip levels in the dry. To the point you'd think it not possible to have such appalling grip levels in the wet from the exact same tyres.
However, please advise how you get on though. We try our best to help members avoid the booby traps like FALKEN 912 452 and 451. Sc5. And possibly Kevs ku39 by the sound of it. But there also comes a point where somebody has to try something new. For better or worse, we'd like to know what works and what doesn't same as your good self. :)
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Round ones.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nexen/N6000.htm
for £65 I fitted these.
Tread pattern nice and square still after 5k.
Kept me on the road during the blizzards we had last year all the way to the south of France.
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Got those on the 3.2, not a bad tyre. Even with my driving style, I would not want any less grip than these :y
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I use hankook ventus v12 evo tyres now, and i am happy with these.
I can recommend these.
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To lighten this thread -
Q: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 365 USED CONDOMS?
A: Melt them down, make a tyre, and call it a Goodyear
;) ;)
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Q: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 365 USED CONDOMS?
Have a nostalgic reminder of being young again....
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Ok,
But he wants cheap ones!
This is big car.
I prefer conti and dunlop, but that is my choice.
Before i buy something check more info, like test, recom.
If you read the thread, it's largely agreed that tyre tests are irrelevant, unless on a very similar chassis. Tyres which got 'excellent' reviews, have proved shocking for the Omega.
It's a big heavy RWD car, given our often wet conditions, cheap tyres are not a good idea. I've had my 2.2 which can just about pull the skin of a bowl of soup, very sideways in little rain with budget tyres ;)
which I still dont agree :)
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I know these are not cheap tyres but I've never fitted anything other than Michelin pilot premecy HP's on my 3.0... she's been lowered 30mm on eibach pro lines with bilstien B4's and sits comfortably on 235/45/17's.
They give very good longevity at roughly 30,000 miles a set and I ain't the lightest footed either..... but on the downside their expensive.
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I know these are not cheap tyres but I've never fitted anything other than Michelin pilot premecy HP's on my 3.0... she's been lowered 30mm on eibach pro lines with bilstien B4's and sits comfortably on 235/45/17's.
They give very good longevity at roughly 30,000 miles a set and I ain't the lightest footed either..... but on the downside their expensive.
If they had sufficient grip, I'd happily pay £300 each corner for a tyre that did 30k.
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For the record,tyres on mine are of the pick'n'mix type.The two rears are Autoguard SA802's,offside front is a Rapid P609 whilst the near side front is a Nordexx Stratus.Car is running on standard 17" Elite alloys and has the standard[as far as I'm aware]suspension.I don't know how much any of these cost as they were on it when I bought it,I've done approx. 5,000mls in it so far,there's plenty of tread left and no uneven wear issues.The car doesn't tramline and as long as I'm driving to the prevailing conditions [i.e. all the time]there are no other handling issues either.