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Title: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 March 2014, 16:54:00
So Comic Relief raised £51,000,000 last night!!  :y  Hopefully the dosh will end up where it's needed and will make a difference.  :-\

Presumably other countries do this as well?  :-\  Anyone know?  ??? or is just us gullible soft hearted Brits!  ;D
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Stemo on 22 March 2014, 18:04:08
You mean sport relief? Didn't watch one minute of it.
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 March 2014, 18:26:07
You mean sport relief? Didn't watch one minute of it.

Doh!!  :o Yes...  :-[  ;D
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Stemo on 22 March 2014, 18:27:45
You mean sport relief? Didn't watch one minute of it.

Doh!!  :o Yes...  :-[  ;D
S'alright Tig, I'll let you off  :y If it had been Gayboy on the other hand..........
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 March 2014, 19:56:04
You mean sport relief? Didn't watch one minute of it.

Doh!!  :o Yes...  :-[  ;D
S'alright Tig, I'll let you off  :y If it had been Gayboy on the other hand..........

Thanks Uncle STEMO!  :y  Where do you get your anti-senility tablets from?  ???  I may need some!   ::)  ;D
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: TheBoy on 22 March 2014, 21:09:34
All its done is take that money out of proper, worthy charities, same as the Children In Need wank.

And our national, tax payer funded broadcaster sponsors it. Its wrong.
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 00:49:26
Is there a proper worthy charity in existence? :-\
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 March 2014, 01:00:16
I thought that the likes of Comic & Sport Relief and Children in Need raised the cash and then used it funding projects organised by established NGO's and charitys?  ???  :-\
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: pscocoa on 23 March 2014, 08:22:59
The whole thing is effectively a con of the public and we (not me though) unquestioningly fall for it.

Maybe a long and complex story but take one example  At the beginning they had Little Mix featured in Liberia. Liberia is one of the countries to which the UK donates government (taxpayer's) money. Via DFID (Dept for International Development) we give around £10 billion in aid

Sport Relief should for my money be" obliged"  to explain WHY the situation with child mortality existed due to malaria and why world aid funds were insufficient and how the system had failed. I have been to Liberia and seen the ranks of shiny Landcruisers parked at lunchtime at the best hotel in Monrovia with Council admin types huddled round lap tops talking total do-gooder shit. We are entitled to transparency
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: pscocoa on 23 March 2014, 08:25:03
Just to be clear £10 billion is total UK aid spend roughly and a small part goes to Liberia.
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: the alarming man on 23 March 2014, 10:31:50
Is there a proper worthy charity in existence? :-\

it makes you wonder as Oxfam as an highly paid CEO and quite a few of the other so called charities do as well...so how much of the money raised goes towards wages??

as for a worthy charity there are a few British legion,rnli to name two
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 March 2014, 10:42:07
The whole thing is effectively a con of the public and we (not me though) unquestioningly fall for it.

Maybe a long and complex story but take one example  At the beginning they had Little Mix featured in Liberia. Liberia is one of the countries to which the UK donates government (taxpayer's) money. Via DFID (Dept for International Development) we give around £10 billion in aid

Sport Relief should for my money be" obliged"  to explain WHY the situation with child mortality existed due to malaria and why world aid funds were insufficient and how the system had failed. I have been to Liberia and seen the ranks of shiny Landcruisers parked at lunchtime at the best hotel in Monrovia with Council admin types huddled round lap tops talking total do-gooder shit. We are entitled to transparency

This is a common sight in many African countries to be honest.  ::) 

You are quite right, after all these years and all the money raised and poured into Africa nothing seems to have changed.  :(  Why? Corruption, and not only from greedy African officials but from NGO and charity workers, cos if they solve a problem they're out of a job or moved to somewhere less appealing.  Turkeys don't vote for Christmas!  ::)
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 11:57:42
Charity is charity. Not a business. While on the one hand, if you want an effective charity, there comes a point where costs are involved and you have to pay people to do an effective job.

Reality there after though, becomes totally self interested. Front line staff, contributors and beneficiaries find themselves way down the priority list of self serving over paid ceo's who rarely earn less than 50kpa.
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: aaronjb on 23 March 2014, 13:18:18
ceo's who rarely earn less than 50kpa.

120k in the case of Scope .. but I best not get started on that shower of s..
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 13:23:30
ceo's who rarely earn less than 50kpa.

120k in the case of Scope .. but I best not get started on that shower of s..

Yes, its a perfect case. If people have real value to a charity, you need them inboard full time or as much time as possible. This eventually means they have to be paid, almost everyone needs an income and those that don't won't want to devote all their time to a 9 to 5.
So obviously wages are necessary.

But 120kpa for a level of incompetence beyond belief..? Nah, that's not on.
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: the alarming man on 23 March 2014, 13:32:15
Charity is charity. Not a business. While on the one hand, if you want an effective charity, there comes a point where costs are involved and you have to pay people to do an effective job.

Reality there after though, becomes totally self interested. Front line staff, contributors and beneficiaries find themselves way down the priority list of self serving over paid ceo's who rarely earn less than 50kpa.


£50 k???... Not for oxfam in 2012/13 lady stocking was paid £119,560...now this money is from donations only as this person may well be very good at her job but she is working for a charity..how in gods name can you work for a charity and pull that sort of money out of it??
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 13:45:02
Charity is charity. Not a business. While on the one hand, if you want an effective charity, there comes a point where costs are involved and you have to pay people to do an effective job.

Reality there after though, becomes totally self interested. Front line staff, contributors and beneficiaries find themselves way down the priority list of self serving over paid ceo's who rarely earn less than 50kpa.


£50 k???... Not for oxfam in 2012/13 lady stocking was paid £119,560...now this money is from donations only as this person may well be very good at her job but she is working for a charity..how in gods name can you work for a charity and pull that sort of money out of it??

Yes, so that would be MORE than 50k, wouldn't it! Granted its a lot more, but still more, NOT LESS. As I said. ::)

pscocoa posted a list of CEOs pay. Iirc there was one at 45 k all the rest where north of 50k.

I think we all agree, the colour of shite is definitely brown. If you want to know the exact shade there's colour swatches available at most diy stores. ;)
Title: Re: TV Charity Nights
Post by: pscocoa on 23 March 2014, 17:48:00
My point was mainly that before presenting tear jerk scenes there should be an explanation as to why the situation is not being addressed by the aid community and the government of the country in question.