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Title: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 14:15:52
There was a time when wonder wheels was best. Mildly acidic, and will probably melt modern paints clean off. Horrid stuff.

Looking for a spray on rinse of type job. There a lot of welded on brake dust on the inner rim, even though the outside face is pretty clean after the Kosovans had a go at it.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Andy B on 23 March 2014, 14:23:00
let me know what you find  ;) My Merc's wheels need a good cleaning .... I suspect that I'll just need a large tub of elbow grease & polish (& a suitable jack to remove them  ;D)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 14:23:38
Road grit works a treat...

Seriously. That salt/molasses combo works wonders...
Try a table spoon of salt and one of sugar dissolved in a cup of warm water...
Test on a spare wheel, rinse and Wax/polish to finish :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Andy B on 23 March 2014, 14:28:35
Road grit works a treat...

Seriously. That salt/molasses combo works wonders...
Try a table spoon of salt and one of sugar dissolved in a cup of warm water...
Test on a spare wheel, rinse and Wax/polish to finish :y

Enough water to make a syrup/treacle consistency?
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 14:33:54
Enough to dissolve the salt and sugar... Brush on as a liquid. Washing the wheel with washing up liguid first to shift the loose stuff then apply the solution as you would wonder wheels :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Andy B on 23 March 2014, 14:36:36
Enough to dissolve the salt and sugar... Brush on as a liquid. Washing the wheel with washing up liguid first to shift the loose stuff then apply the solution as you would wonder wheels :y

I'll give that a go when I remove mine to clean the insides too  :y  :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: RobG on 23 March 2014, 14:42:07
http://www.bilthamber.com/cleaning-and-degreasing/auto-wheel-1
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 14:43:42
I suggest  washing up liquid as it doesn't contain the wax or coating properties of car shampoos...
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Andy B on 23 March 2014, 14:47:43
I suggest  washing up liquid as it doesn't contain the wax or coating properties of car shampoos...

I believe that washing up liquid contains lots of salt .......... it's to break down the grease from your dishes
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 15:31:58
Quite possibly :-\ point is, it won't leave a protective layer over any remaining residue after an initial wash :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Stemo on 23 March 2014, 15:53:31
http://www.bilthamber.com/cleaning-and-degreasing/auto-wheel-1
Just ordered 1lt of that, Rob  :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 March 2014, 16:18:17
Very Cherry non acidic wheel cleaner
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: D on 23 March 2014, 16:25:19
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/valet-pro-bilberry-wheel-cleaner/prod_499.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/valet-pro-bilberry-wheel-cleaner/prod_499.html)

A lot of the pro valeters seem to use this stuff. Personally I have no idea, the last time I washed my car was 2 years ago when I bought it. Actually I think the dealer washed it. So I guess I have never given it a wash or paid for it to be washed.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2014, 19:05:47
Whatever shit the Kosos use. Probably paint stripper ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: biggriffin on 23 March 2014, 19:09:26
I use TFR.
 traffic film remover. Removes everything, dirt,grime,bird poo and skin if used undiluted. Then wash with a car shampoo.
or go to lokal car wash and get them to do it.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:00:45
 ::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: minifreek on 23 March 2014, 21:24:21
I only use AG wheel cleaner, its a 1 hit type of thing where you spray onto the wheel, let it dwell for about 5 mins and then rinse off..... gets shut of brake dust too :)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:27:08
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 21:29:06
The wheels do get alot hotter though :-\
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:32:37
 Yes heat transfer from the brakes breaks. ::)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:35:28
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\  and also they are hot when they hit  the surface of wheel :(
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:38:11
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\



Right, so what to use? Kosovans have already washed the wheels, with similar methods as the rest of the car, plus their wheel cleaner, yet the brake dust remains.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2014, 21:40:04
if Kosos have cleaned wheels, but unable to move brake dust, you're probably in realms of refurb
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: minifreek on 23 March 2014, 21:43:12
If there is brake dust remaining after a wash, you could get a product called Iron-X that will remove 99% of the brake dust, regardless as to whether it is embedded into the paint/lacquer on the wheel or not...
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:43:29
if Kosos have cleaned wheels, but unable to move brake dust, you're probably in realms of refurb

Already done. As said in post 1. Outside surface is clean. The inner surface of the wheel rim is still peppered.

May I refer Mr Admin Sir to post 1.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:45:43
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\



Right, so what to use? Kosovans have already washed the wheels, with similar methods as the rest of the car, plus their wheel cleaner, yet the brake dust remains.

...and bird poo comes off with basic washing. In case the body shop specialist hasn't noticed.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:46:09
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\



Right, so what to use? Kosovans have already washed the wheels, with similar methods as the rest of the car, plus their wheel cleaner, yet the brake dust remains.


paste with wax..  but if your car washed weekly at least ,you wont have that dust problem or you are making very high mileage daily :-\
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:48:23
I can recommend a solution ..


buy some scratch resistant laquer , sand the surface of wheels with 500 wet than let them sprayed with 6-7 coats ..


then you can polish/paste them even everyday ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:49:29
seriously wax prevent brake dust setting on them at least minimizes


I guess refurbish centers dont use the most expensive and hard laquer  just for wheels..
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:51:15
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\



Right, so what to use? Kosovans have already washed the wheels, with similar methods as the rest of the car, plus their wheel cleaner, yet the brake dust remains.


paste with wax..  but if your car washed weekly at least ,you wont have that dust problem or you are making very high mileage daily :-\

Weekly? In winter? With floods? It hasn't been washed for weeks.

So, cem, what to use? Dtm's RobG's and Minifreeks suggestions all look viable. :)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:52:31
::) ???




wheels are painted with the same metallic paint and laquer (clearcoat) .. so whatever is harmful for your car paint is valid also for wheels..


problem with brake dust is when its mixed up with mud and let for long, it sticks to laquer surface .. you can always use paint protector wax (used on car paint) to clean them without harming the surface.. first wash, then apply one layer and buff with a soft towel once in a month.. they wil have less dust than before..

Fair enough, but body paint doesn't get covered in brake dust..?


how about bird poo  ;D


problem is brake dust is let there for a long time :-\



Right, so what to use? Kosovans have already washed the wheels, with similar methods as the rest of the car, plus their wheel cleaner, yet the brake dust remains.


paste with wax..  but if your car washed weekly at least ,you wont have that dust problem or you are making very high mileage daily :-\

Weekly? In winter? With floods? It hasn't been washed for weeks.

So, cem, what to use? Dtm's RobG's and Minifreeks suggestions all look viable. :)


winter or summer, brake dust stick with static electric load you must wash them :-\
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 21:53:40
my cars are always washed several times a week ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:53:54
seriously wax prevent brake dust setting on them at least minimizes


I guess refurbish centers dont use the most expensive and hard laquer  just for wheels..

CEM. read post 1.

Question is, what potion to remove brake break dust  What product to use.

Clearly you have no idea as usual. ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 21:55:32
I'll try one of the products suggested. Thanks for those.  :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 21:56:34
When we have a half decent winter, the muck they spread on the roads does wonders for shifting baked on brake dust, hence my initial suggestion... should be almost free too, assuming you possess salt and sugar :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 22:40:05
seriously wax prevent brake dust setting on them at least minimizes


I guess refurbish centers dont use the most expensive and hard laquer  just for wheels..

CEM. read post 1.

Question is, what potion to remove brake break dust  What product to use.

Clearly you have no idea as usual. ;D


no need to re-read post 1 ..   just wash your car regularly and wax it  ;)




and you can paste them for now!
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 March 2014, 22:44:04
and dont use or let someone use any acidic chemical on your wheel paint..  for any reason!
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 22:48:19
and dont use or let someone use any acidic chemical on your wheel paint..  for any reason!

I hear wonder wheels is very good. ::)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 23:03:24
and dont use or let someone use any acidic chemical on your wheel paint..  for any reason!

I hear wonder wheels is very good. ::)
You're going to need a bigger handle than that to wind him up ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 March 2014, 23:09:17
and dont use or let someone use any acidic chemical on your wheel paint..  for any reason!

I hear wonder wheels is very good. ::)
You're going to need a bigger handle than that to wind him up ;D

Not sure he's in tbh.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 March 2014, 23:10:20
No fun ::)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: D on 23 March 2014, 23:17:14
A lot of the chaps on detailing world use the thing in my link above. Results look spectacular on the web as well. But as I said, no personal experience per se.
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: minifreek on 24 March 2014, 08:47:30
Once the wheel is clean you could use a wheel sealant too, it just sprays on and lasts fora couple of washes too :)
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 March 2014, 09:05:23
Decent wax and polish will have the same, if not better results :y
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Post by: minifreek on 24 March 2014, 09:33:56
Quite true that Al as the wheel sealant is silicone based I think....
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 March 2014, 09:58:07
Decent wax and polish will have the same, if not better results :y


finally sound of logic :) :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 March 2014, 09:59:15
and dont use or let someone use any acidic chemical on your wheel paint..  for any reason!

I hear wonder wheels is very good. ::)
You're going to need a bigger handle than that to wind him up ;D


 ;D ;D


a new tyre tread and tramlining may be :D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: hoody on 24 March 2014, 11:08:15
pound shop vanish multi purpose cleaner,elbow grease,wash then polish :y
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Spireite on 24 March 2014, 14:58:25
Valetpro bilberry wheel cleaner
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: minifreek on 24 March 2014, 16:16:49
Valetpro bilberry wheel cleaner

i got some of that stuff too, expensive but works well....
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: henryd on 24 March 2014, 16:58:46
I use Concept alloy wheel cleaner,available through unipart stockists,its bloody strong though and plays hell with hands and eyes if the spray drifts but does do a very good job on badly soiled rims :y :y

This is the stuff

http://www.conceptchemicals.com/node/41
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: minifreek on 24 March 2014, 17:37:33
Better with a non-acid based wheel cleaner really as the acid eats its way into the alloy...
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 March 2014, 18:22:04
Better with a non-acid based wheel cleaner really as the acid eats its way into the alloy...
Only if the paint/laquer is damaged...

A wheel in good condition should be fine :y as per instructions on all wheel cleaners... 'Do not use on damaged surfaces'...
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 March 2014, 20:01:25
bird poo is acidic and remember what it makes to even brand new cars paint
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: Stemo on 14 April 2014, 15:19:32
http://www.bilthamber.com/cleaning-and-degreasing/auto-wheel-1
Gave this a go today. Works very well but it doesn't half give off some fumes. I'd advise gloves as well, unlike me, my hands stink of dissolved alloy. ;D
Title: Re: Best potion for wheel cleaning.
Post by: omega3000 on 14 April 2014, 15:37:25
http://www.bilthamber.com/cleaning-and-degreasing/auto-wheel-1
Gave this a go today. Works very well but it doesn't half give off some fumes. I'd advise gloves as well, unlike me, my hands stink of dissolved alloy. ;D

Cant go wrong with that then
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Best wheel cleaner you’ve ever used or your money back.

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