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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: tomtr250 on 28 March 2014, 12:51:17
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Hi, I'm after a bit of advice please
I've just bought a really nice 2.6 v6, when I looked at it it had been standing and the tappets were noisy, my thoughts were that this was normal for hydraulics and they would quieten down with running, so I went away looked at one or two other cars and decided to plump for this one.
Anyway I picked it up yesterday and after about 10 miles the noise got louder!! I stopped, checked the oil,filthy but all there, and drove it home slowly, it sounds like a bag of spanners!! but all very top end so I assume the hydraulic lifters are knackered.
Before I start is there any advice, flushing wynns etc etc or should I just wade in and take it to bits?
Any comments (apart from scrap it) would be welcomed
Tom
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Do 3 quick full oil/filter changes of around 500 miles or so.On last full change add Wynns Lifter Treatment and would expect that to quiten things down nicely.
Dont add any flushing agents and if you have access to a T/Card 4 x 5ltrs of GM oil plus couple of filters will set you back around £50 all in
Make sure oil is good and hot before draining and give it good few hours to fully drain.
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From my experience I would have the sump off quicksmart and clean the oil pick up pipe, I had increasingly loud tappets then a very seized engine :o I don't know if it's just the 2.6 but I know of 3 that have suffered the same fate due to clogged pick ups. My opinion is the lifters get noisy when the oil supply is restricted, which eventually affects the crank bearings. For the sake of the price of a sump gasket it's definately worth doing.
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The cause of oil pickup blockage is poor spanner work and/or poor maintenance......nothing else
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Thanks for the advice so far, I won't be using it until I've done something...whatever something is!!
Mark I notice you are in WB I'm only round the corner in Clifton Village!!
Tom
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Drop the sump and clean the oil pick up strainer and sump pan by hand and you should be good to go. but several quick oil changes after will clean the rest of the engine oil ways.
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From my experience I would have the sump off quicksmart and clean the oil pick up pipe, I had increasingly loud tappets then a very seized engine :o I don't know if it's just the 2.6 but I know of 3 that have suffered the same fate due to clogged pick ups. My opinion is the lifters get noisy when the oil supply is restricted, which eventually affects the crank bearings. For the sake of the price of a sump gasket it's definately worth doing.
No, my old 3.0 suffered the same fate and that had regular oil changes :(
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Malcolm recently has had the problem you might face if the pump pick up is clogged up :'(
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=122287.0;all
It's not difficult to remove the sump & then you'll be sure :y :y :y
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I think if you have just bought a car and no service history , defo worth dropping sump and check/clean the strainer . With regular oil changes should be no need to re-check :)
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Take the oil filter off and see what state it is in.
if filter has collapsed and looks rough,then sump off,if looks good and changed regularly then fresh oil and some Wynn's
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Hi guys
Quick update, I got around to doing the sump and strainer yesterday, lots of hung and some mayo in the sump but the strainer wasn't too bad, all cleaned up and back together,
I couldn't budge the oil filter though!!! I've had everything on it! I need to get it up some more so I can get more purchase on the spanners
As a result I've re oiled it and run it up, there is no noticeable difference so what next? Does it need to come to bits or does it need to be run for a while ?
Tom
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Cracked exhaust manifold sounds very much the same as noisy tappets, at least on mine 4-pot did ???
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Hi
It's definately tappets, i've had a stethoscope on it, its particularly bad on the passenger bank
Tom
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Well, you need to sort the oil filter one way or the other. That might be restricting the flow if it hasn't been touched for a while.
Give it a couple of oil changes at 500 - 1000 mile intervals then, if it's still noisy some Wynns lifter treatment.
If that all fails, you might need to take all of the lifters out, clean them out and check that they are serviceable.
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Hi, I'm after a bit of advice please
I've just bought a really nice 2.6 v6, when I looked at it it had been standing and the tappets were noisy, my thoughts were that this was normal for hydraulics and they would quieten down with running, so I went away looked at one or two other cars and decided to plump for this one.
Anyway I picked it up yesterday and after about 10 miles the noise got louder!! I stopped, checked the oil,filthy but all there, and drove it home slowly, it sounds like a bag of spanners!! but all very top end so I assume the hydraulic lifters are knackered.
Before I start is there any advice, flushing wynns etc etc or should I just wade in and take it to bits?
Any comments (apart from scrap it) would be welcomed
Tom
Where are you located Tom?
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Clifton Village at a guess ::)
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Clifton Village at a guess ::)
D'oh!! ;D
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hi
I'm based in nottingham, as well as the oil I put some wynns in as well
TOM
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you might need to take all of the lifters out, clean them out and check that they are serviceable
:y
And taking off the rocker cover will give you an idea what condition its in ... sludge and carbon deposits will tell you its not been serviced regularly :(
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Thanks for all of the advice, I bought this to replace my 2.2sport which runs great but needs an exhaust, they are just not worth spending money on but what great cars when they are running well!
I'm not using it at the moment as the 2.2 is mot,d till June, I had hoped that the oil change and a good run around the block would shut it up but alas no, so it looks like I need to get the covers off and have a look :'( hey ho!!
I need to summon up some enthusiasm
Tom
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They take a lot more driving than that to quieten down, even if they're just noisy from a rebuild. Minimum 20 minutes driving, and it may take a couple of thousand miles with regular short oil changes, as said.
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If the noise is really bad I'd be ALSO checking exhaust manifold leak and the timing. Timing out can cause loud clatter. I've experienced that on my old breaker