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Title: new radiator
Post by: robson on 30 March 2014, 18:59:57
Any suggestions on  where to buy  a new radiator for a 2.6 Auto  facelift I assume main dealer is very expensive.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: RobG on 30 March 2014, 19:01:22
http://www.carcooling.co.uk/catalog/Vauxhall_Omega_B_94_03-1245-2.html
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: andrew38 on 31 March 2014, 13:09:59
Got mine from them for a V6, good quality been on a couple of years no issues.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: steve6367 on 31 March 2014, 13:57:05
Just used car cooling and got there in the end.

It is a small concern and I would call the man to discuss for best result :-)

Steve
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: robson on 31 March 2014, 16:27:34
Hello Steve Have you posted in the right section I do not understand your reply.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: robson on 31 March 2014, 16:31:14
How difficult a job is fitting a new radiator on an automatic 2.6.with of course air con Can you give me an idea of time scale. I assume to put leak seal in the system is a no no.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: amba on 31 March 2014, 16:49:39
No No to "snake oil quick fix" stuff. >:( >:( >:(

Rad out is quite straight forward and doesnt involve disturbing A/C rad as it can be unbolted and left inplace as its infront of coolant radiator.

Front bag pipes need removing then autobox feed pipes.Remove top hose and bottom hose,couple of electrical plugs for temp/fans and out it comes.Refit and add nice new coolant so all in a simple morning or afternoons job going steady with tea breaks  :y
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Andy B on 31 March 2014, 18:14:37
How difficult a job is fitting a new radiator on an automatic 2.6.with of course air con Can you give me an idea of time scale. I assume to put leak seal in the system is a no no.

Is the ATF cooler a separate thing on your 2.6?  :-\ It's in the side of the main rad in some cars.  ;)
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 21:54:47
Sorry to intrude, amba, but you said the a/c condenser is in front of the coolant radiator - does this mean that I can take it out easily and replace it?
A couple of years ago, when my a/c stopped working, the man at Kwik=Fit said it would mean a complete dismantling job, bumper off and everything: so I left it!

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 March 2014, 21:57:02
Sorry to intrude, amba, but you said the a/c condenser is in front of the coolant radiator - does this mean that I can take it out easily and replace it?
A couple of years ago, when my a/c stopped working, the man at Kwik=Fit said it would mean a complete dismantling job, bumper off and everything: so I left it!

Ron.

If your car is a face lift, then Mr Kwikshit was talking from his yaris ::)
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 March 2014, 22:03:21
Sorry to intrude, amba, but you said the a/c condenser is in front of the coolant radiator - does this mean that I can take it out easily and replace it?
A couple of years ago, when my a/c stopped working, the man at Kwik=Fit said it would mean a complete dismantling job, bumper off and everything: so I left it!

Ron.

If your car is a face lift, then Mr Kwikshit was talking from his yaris ::)

Although you will need to remove the radiator I believe!
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 22:04:36
Yep, '51 Reg 2.6 V6 f/l!
Thanks, Al - because of what Kwik-Fit said, I haven't bothered to see it there's a "How to" on here, but I will now.
Once again, I am SO glad I'm on here; wonderful site, wonderful people......

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Andy B on 31 March 2014, 22:15:02
Sorry to intrude, amba, but you said the a/c condenser is in front of the coolant radiator - does this mean that I can take it out easily and replace it?
A couple of years ago, when my a/c stopped working, the man at Kwik=Fit said it would mean a complete dismantling job, bumper off and everything: so I left it!

Ron.

If your car is a face lift, then Mr Kwikshit was talking from his yaris ::)

Facelift or preface lift ..... they're both in the same place meaning the job is the same.  :-\
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Andy B on 31 March 2014, 22:16:45
Yep, '51 Reg 2.6 V6 f/l!
Thanks, Al - because of what Kwik-Fit said, I haven't bothered to see it there's a "How to" on here, but I will now.
Once again, I am SO glad I'm on here; wonderful site, wonderful people......

Ron.

Bumper stays put on all models. To access the condenser aka a/c rad the coolant rad needs to come out first, not difficult though.  :y
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: amba on 31 March 2014, 22:17:10
Air con rad can be removed but will require the coolant radiator removing aswell due to the a/c rad being infront.(closer to front of car) than coolant radiator.

Coolant radiator can be removed without taking out a/c radiator.

Hope that makes sense...and yes the shitefit guy was talking rubbish ..as they usually do ;D
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 March 2014, 22:22:17
Can be done with the rad in situ... just. Removal involved folding the old one in half, and refitting involved alot of cursing iirc ::)
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 22:24:42
Thanks a million, gents. Maybe they just wanted to boost their bonus/commission or however they earn extras?
Just to clarify: if I just wanted the rad out (I don't), I can remove it on its own, despite its being behind, yet if I want to remove the ac radiator (I do), I have to remove the coolant rad first despite its being behind?
Um, can you see my confusion?

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 March 2014, 22:38:22
The front edge of the slam panel is over the aircon condenser, whereas the rad simply(ish) lifts out as there's nothing above it :y
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Andy B on 31 March 2014, 22:39:37
Thanks a million, gents. Maybe they just wanted to boost their bonus/commission or however they earn extras?
Just to clarify: if I just wanted the rad out (I don't), I can remove it on its own, despite its being behind, yet if I want to remove the ac radiator (I do), I have to remove the coolant rad first despite its being behind?
Um, can you see my confusion?

Ron.

Correct!

No ..... can't see the confusion  ::) ::) ::) When you stick your head under the bonnet and look in front of the fan it's the coolant rad you can see. When that's out of the way, you then have access to the a/c condenser which is right at the front of the car behind the grille.  :y
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 22:42:13
Ah, all is crystal, now!
Maybe that's why Mr. Kwik-Fit wanted the front bumper off?
Could be a job for if and when we get a summer.......

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 March 2014, 22:43:43
I forgot... the front fans are fitted to the slam panel from the engine side, followed by the air con condenser, then the oil cooler (if fitted) and finally the coolant rad drops in behind :y

So front bumper is totally irrelevant  ::)
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 22:45:56
Bloody hell!
I'll open the windows!!!

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Andy B on 31 March 2014, 22:48:06
Bloody hell!
I'll open the windows!!!

Ron.

It's easy Ron. The fans come out as a unit.  ;)
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Bigron on 31 March 2014, 22:52:37
Thanks for the encouragement; I do appreciate all the help on here.
I don't want to say goodbye to the car, James has just done my cambelt and thermostat. My leaking gearbox is a higher priority, though.

Ron.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: Entwood on 01 April 2014, 00:01:05
Personally, I wouldn't try and change the A/C radiator (condenser) without removing the normal radiator.

A so-called professional air con "specialist" decided to do mine that way ... and managed to break the main rad... one of the plastic pipes ... and then proceeded to "bodge" the repair rather than admit to it. ....

Saga starts at post 4539, ends at 4361 ....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=43963.4539
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: robson on 01 April 2014, 09:09:15
Hello Big Ron I know your dilema James did my cam belt and thermostat 4years interval, fantastic job,  but recently I have had trouble with the exhaust , door motors, and now the radiator and you begin to wonder what next but want to keep the car. thanks all for the input on Rad change.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: steve6367 on 01 April 2014, 11:06:57
Hello Steve Have you posted in the right section I do not understand your reply.

Hello, yes - I have used the company linked above 'Car Cooling' and was just recomending a call to them and a converstaion about exactly what you want. I ordered online originally which caused some issues.
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: robson on 01 April 2014, 13:06:57
thanks Steve :y
Title: Re: new radiator
Post by: robson on 01 April 2014, 19:17:22
Now the bonnet catch needs adjusting maybe it is the hot weather getting to the car.