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Title: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 15:55:32
Anyone got/tired a cordless lawnmower? Some of the Bosch ones are getting good reviews.

Was thinking along lines of:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0054E3C3O

Or get a cheapo petrol one thats available from most DIY stores for around £130. Trouble is, they are big, bulky and noisy. And the cheap ones look, well, cheap!
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 15:59:41
I use a cordless strimmer, have for years, as its too much faff to mess about with leads. I'd say my £54 cordless wank&decker strimmer is about on par with a £40 mains one. That has enough power to strim a slightly overgrown lawn per charge (as I don't have a lawnmower, the strimmer has to do it all ;D)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Gaffers on 04 April 2014, 16:00:31
I started off with a flymo, it was poo and I hated clearing up after it.  I then got the cheapy petrol one the B&Q seem to do every spring and I love it.  Spent the extra tenner for the clutch which drives the wheels which saves my back.  Yes it's noisy but being a 4 stroke it has nothing on my Seagull engines  :P
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 16:03:12
I started off with a flymo, it was poo and I hated clearing up after it.  I then got the cheapy petrol one the B&Q seem to do every spring and I love it.  Spent the extra tenner for the clutch which drives the wheels which saves my back.  Yes it's noisy but being a 4 stroke it has nothing on my Seagull engines  :P
My lawns aren't big enough to warrant driven ones, so if I went petrol, it would be non driven anyway :)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2014, 16:04:35
Cordless and electric mowers are fine if you have a lawn the size of a postage stamp. :y

However if you have something a little larger they are a waste of time and money.

I'd go for a petrol mower every time, preferably one with a comfortable seat and a large V8 engine.. :y
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2014, 16:06:45
Good timing, I need a mower. Been considering petrol/leccy, although my garden is small there is a large strip outside, parallel to the house which is mine and front garden too.

So flexibility of no cord would be nice, so petrol would be the way.

Like idea of cordless.... right up until the price. How friggin much  :o :o :o :o

Why not get a petrol for that money?

For cheapo leccy, I'm thinking of this:

http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/garden-power-tools/lawnmowers/electric_lawnmowers/-specificproducttype-corded_rotary_lawnmowers/Bosch-Rotak-320ER-Electric-Rotary-Lawnmower-12878584?skuId=13389274 (http://www.diy.com/nav/garden/garden-power-tools/lawnmowers/electric_lawnmowers/-specificproducttype-corded_rotary_lawnmowers/Bosch-Rotak-320ER-Electric-Rotary-Lawnmower-12878584?skuId=13389274)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: henryd on 04 April 2014, 16:07:02
Cordless and electric mowers are fine if you have a lawn the size of a postage stamp. :y

However if you have something a little larger a couple of fields like I have they are a waste of time and money.

I'd go for a petrol mower every time, preferably one with a comfortable seat and a large V8 engine.. :y

Fixed for you Opti :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 16:14:12
Cordless and electric mowers are fine if you have a lawn the size of a postage stamp. :y

However if you have something a little larger they are a waste of time and money.

I'd go for a petrol mower every time, preferably one with a comfortable seat and a large V8 engine.. :y
Yeah, my "lawns" are poxy, front is probably about 10x5m, and rear about 8x6m (although I may reduce patio size when I rearrange garden). So currently around 100m2. At best, I reckon I any changes I make, it would still be well under 150m2

So battery life (per charge) isn't a major concern for me
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 16:15:34
Like idea of cordless.... right up until the price. How friggin much  :o :o :o :o
Tight arse!  Thats probably slightly cheaper than the mower it is replacing...  ...those Hondas are bloody expensive now :o
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2014, 16:30:23
There bloody rubbish and struggle like hell once the grass gets a bit longer.#

Plus as they age and the battery gets tired you get pissed off with them when they slow down and die half way through.

My advise will always be to buy a good make petrol second hand such as an Atco Admiral or the like such as :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atco-Admiral-16-Push-Reel-/181364980468?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a31faf4#ht_82wt_1201

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOWER-ATCO-ADMIRAL-16-POWER-DRIVEN-/181365707104?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a3d1160#ht_226wt_1201

Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Stemo on 04 April 2014, 16:33:32
I have a man who cuts both of my lawns for a tenner. I reckon it's about 10-12 cuts per summer, so £350 will last me three years or more. That's the way to do it.  ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2014, 16:35:11
I started off with a flymo, it was poo and I hated clearing up after it.  I then got the cheapy petrol one the B&Q seem to do every spring and I love it.  Spent the extra tenner for the clutch which drives the wheels which saves my back.  Yes it's noisy but being a 4 stroke it has nothing on my Seagull engines  :P

But sadly they wont last, for less money you could have got a second hand machine of consderably better quality.

We currently have two of the el-cheapo ones at the railway and there a constant pain with crappy plastic carbs and float bowls integrated into the fuel tank etc etc etc.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Gaffers on 04 April 2014, 16:45:57
I started off with a flymo, it was poo and I hated clearing up after it.  I then got the cheapy petrol one the B&Q seem to do every spring and I love it.  Spent the extra tenner for the clutch which drives the wheels which saves my back.  Yes it's noisy but being a 4 stroke it has nothing on my Seagull engines  :P

But sadly they wont last, for less money you could have got a second hand machine of consderably better quality.

We currently have two of the el-cheapo ones at the railway and there a constant pain with crappy plastic carbs and float bowls integrated into the fuel tank etc etc etc.

3 years and still going strong.  All I have had to do is change the oil and sharpen the blade.  Pretty easy to start too.

I couldn't find a decent 2nd hand one for less than £130 at the time.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 April 2014, 16:57:12
I bought the cheapest petrol mower in B&Q when I moved into the previous house in the late 90's. About £80 if memory serves. It does have a reasonable tecumseh engine and proper carb and it's still going strong. Starts on the first pull every time, although it did get a bit troublesome once. Once I'd cleared the blocked passage in the carb it was back to its' normal self.

The wheels will fall off and the (plastic) deck will fall apart before there are any mechanical problems with it, I'm sure.

It's been relegated to spare since I caught my brother about to chuck an early 90's Yard King in the skip. Again, clean out the carb and put some fresh petrol in it and it's as good as new.

If you fancy a project, watch your local freecycle for mowers that "don't start", especially this time of year. Couple of hours and a can of carb cleaner and your problem will be solved.

When you think of how much energy a proper mower uses, then think what a cheap chinese battery can muster and for how long, you know just how much fun a battery mower will be.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2014, 17:11:43
I started off with a flymo, it was poo and I hated clearing up after it.  I then got the cheapy petrol one the B&Q seem to do every spring and I love it.  Spent the extra tenner for the clutch which drives the wheels which saves my back.  Yes it's noisy but being a 4 stroke it has nothing on my Seagull engines  :P

But sadly they wont last, for less money you could have got a second hand machine of consderably better quality.

We currently have two of the el-cheapo ones at the railway and there a constant pain with crappy plastic carbs and float bowls integrated into the fuel tank etc etc etc.

3 years and still going strong.  All I have had to do is change the oil and sharpen the blade.  Pretty easy to start too.

I couldn't find a decent 2nd hand one for less than £130 at the time.

You have been lucky although clearly, at the centre, they probably get more use.

There is also a 10 year old Honda engines one which 'just works' with minimal servicing
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2014, 17:12:40
And actualy, some of the Atco Admirals have electric start which would suit TB with his failing back   ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: aaronjb on 04 April 2014, 17:26:11
Being able to have a petrol toy mower is the only reason I wish I had more grass..

Although as anyone who has seen my garden knows, that would be ridiculous overkill ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: chrisgixer on 04 April 2014, 17:30:15
Gay!

Get a petrol! ...and you knows it.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Gaffers on 04 April 2014, 17:40:43
Being able to have a petrol toy mower is the only reason I wish I had more grass..

Although as anyone who has seen my garden knows, that would be ridiculous overkill ;D

Exactly my thought.  Why have lawn when you can turn it in to garage? ::)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2014, 19:09:40
Like idea of cordless.... right up until the price. How friggin much  :o :o :o :o
Tight arse!  Thats probably slightly cheaper than the mower it is replacing...  ...those Hondas are bloody expensive now :o

Not really, prepared to pay a few quid for a decent one. But £350+ for a battery powered spinning cutter  :o

Petrol all the way.

Was looking at eBay myself at second hand ones, although not that brand Mark posted. Will keep an eye out for ones local to me. Sub £100 for a second hand petrol I think, if nothing comes up, cheapo wired leccy I think.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 04 April 2014, 19:21:14
Ive got a B&Q cheap as chips £80 petrol mower, or it was 10 years ago, that price.....not done a thing to it in 10 years.....starts first time  :y....(altho i do flood the carb before starting and let it belch out white smoke for 20-30secs before it settles down....otherwise its a bitch to start)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2014, 19:24:10
Trouble is cheapest B&Q Mower now is Mountfield ones at around £170
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2014, 19:30:56
And there crap, believe me, I have to fix the bloody things  ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 04 April 2014, 19:31:06
Trouble is cheapest B&Q Mower now is Mountfield ones at around £170

Mines branded as B&Q with a mountfield engine in it  :y

And iirc the mountfield mowers B&Q were selling at time were over £100....so i went a B&Q mountfield  :y

If there that price now.....maybe i should look after it a bit  ::) An oil change might be an idea....never had one  ::) .....maybe even treat it to a new spark plug  ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: aaronjb on 04 April 2014, 20:43:08
Being able to have a petrol toy mower is the only reason I wish I had more grass..

Although as anyone who has seen my garden knows, that would be ridiculous overkill ;D

Exactly my thought.  Why have lawn when you can turn it in to garage? ::)

Funny you should say that.. this came to join the 19' x 19' garage the other week: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=122791.new#new
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 21:40:07
There bloody rubbish and struggle like hell once the grass gets a bit longer.#

Plus as they age and the battery gets tired you get pissed off with them when they slow down and die half way through.

My advise will always be to buy a good make petrol second hand such as an Atco Admiral or the like such as :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atco-Admiral-16-Push-Reel-/181364980468?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a31faf4#ht_82wt_1201

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOWER-ATCO-ADMIRAL-16-POWER-DRIVEN-/181365707104?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a3d1160#ht_226wt_1201
I do have a natural distrust of plastic decks...
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: chrisgixer on 04 April 2014, 21:43:52
Why would anybody want a re chargeable lawn mower...?

Milk float anyone?
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2014, 21:50:05
Why would anybody want a re chargeable lawn mower...?

Milk float anyone?
Because, having used an electric one since last summer, it takes longer to get the electricity to it than it takes to cut.

I was looking for something a little less bulky than petrol, due to a desire to keep garage less cluttered.


Hence, I was looking for advice/info from people who have actually owned/used one.  Online reviews seem overwhelmingly positive, though I suspect long, wet grass will drain the battery if cutting too short.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: CaptainZok on 04 April 2014, 21:56:02
Why would anybody want a re chargeable lawn mower...?

Milk float anyone?
Because, having used an electric one since last summer, it takes longer to get the electricity to it than it takes to cut.

I was looking for something a little less bulky than petrol, due to a desire to keep garage less cluttered.


Hence, I was looking for advice/info from people who have actually owned/used one.  Online reviews seem overwhelmingly positive, though I suspect long, wet grass will drain the battery if cutting too short.
You're certainly doing well on that score. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: chrisgixer on 04 April 2014, 22:19:50
Why would anybody want a re chargeable lawn mower...?

Milk float anyone?
Because, having used an electric one since last summer, it takes longer to get the electricity to it than it takes to cut.

I was looking for something a little less bulky than petrol, due to a desire to keep garage less cluttered.


Hence, I was looking for advice/info from people who have actually owned/used one.  Online reviews seem overwhelmingly positive, though I suspect long, wet grass will drain the battery if cutting too short.

We've discussed this before. The ONLY acceptable lawn mower, is a petrol lawn mower. A MANS lawn mower. None if this Gay BMW owners I've no idea but got all the gay gear electric rubbish.

Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: henryd on 04 April 2014, 22:38:43
We've got a Honda self propelled jobbie here,had to weld the deck a few times in recent years but it never needs more than a couple of pulls to start even after a winter lay up,oh and it's about 20years old now :y
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2014, 23:35:36
Those Bosch electric mowers are good!  :y
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Rods2 on 05 April 2014, 01:20:19
We've got a Honda self propelled jobbie here,had to weld the deck a few times in recent years but it never needs more than a couple of pulls to start even after a winter lay up,oh and it's about 20years old now :y

I've got a cheap B&Q self-propelled with a 4.5hp Briggs and Stratton engine, that is still going strong after 18-19 years. Like your Honda tin worm is beginning to get the better of the blade and drive belt enclosures, so I think I'm going to have to get some tin plate and get my welder out in the near future. I've no complaints with almost 20 years of use for £200 and a couple of gallons of unleaded per cutting season and the occasional oil change, new plug and air filter. Normally starts first pull of the chord and will go through the thickest of grass, like after 3 weeks holiday, or a wet period when it has been impossible to cut.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 05 April 2014, 09:47:32
We've got a Honda self propelled jobbie here,had to weld the deck a few times in recent years but it never needs more than a couple of pulls to start even after a winter lay up,oh and it's about 20years old now :y
My old Honda needed a fair amount of welding at the beginning of last year.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: henryd on 05 April 2014, 10:12:04
We've got a Honda self propelled jobbie here,had to weld the deck a few times in recent years but it never needs more than a couple of pulls to start even after a winter lay up,oh and it's about 20years old now :y
My old Honda needed a fair amount of welding at the beginning of last year.

Presuming yours is gone to lawnmower heaven now ???
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 April 2014, 10:44:03
There bloody rubbish and struggle like hell once the grass gets a bit longer.#

Plus as they age and the battery gets tired you get pissed off with them when they slow down and die half way through.

My advise will always be to buy a good make petrol second hand such as an Atco Admiral or the like such as :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atco-Admiral-16-Push-Reel-/181364980468?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a31faf4#ht_82wt_1201

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOWER-ATCO-ADMIRAL-16-POWER-DRIVEN-/181365707104?pt=UK_Garden_Lawnmowers&hash=item2a3a3d1160#ht_226wt_1201

Agreed. Everyone knows that cordless and electric mowers are only suitable for 'poofters' and old ladies.  ;)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 April 2014, 12:44:39
Better off with a simple mechanical push mower IMO. Smaller too.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 05 April 2014, 17:56:01
We've got a Honda self propelled jobbie here,had to weld the deck a few times in recent years but it never needs more than a couple of pulls to start even after a winter lay up,oh and it's about 20years old now :y
My old Honda needed a fair amount of welding at the beginning of last year.

Presuming yours is gone to lawnmower heaven now ???
Yeah, couldn't save it....

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Garage_Fire/mower.JPG)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 April 2014, 19:21:15
That spark plug looks "as new". The rest won't polish out, though. :'(
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 06 April 2014, 16:59:05
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149 (http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 April 2014, 17:44:35
Quite a good range at MachineMart.  :)

If I was in the market for a new mower I'd be tempted by the 46cm Einhell which is a little more than the Costco model, but I have an Einhell scarifier which is fine, so a bit of brand loyalty.  ;)  :y

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/search/filter/lawnmowers-lawn-rakes/type/any/module/shopcategory/page/1
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 April 2014, 17:47:30
Quite a good range at MachineMart.  :)

If I was in the market for a new mower I'd be tempted by the 46cm Einhell which is a little more than the Costco model, but I have an Einhell scarifier which is fine, so a bit of brand loyalty.  ;)  :y

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/search/filter/lawnmowers-lawn-rakes/type/any/module/shopcategory/page/1


Is that large enough to deal with your Dorset estate, Sir Tig?

Surely a 'sit on' mower is required. :y
 
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 April 2014, 18:01:45
A little electric Bosch happily copes with my little patch.  :) Rural poverty is a terrible thing Your Grace.  :'(
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 April 2014, 18:12:19
Ive found the ideal mower for TB......he can sit on the patio with a beer and watch it cutting the grass  :y :y ;D

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/bosch-indego-32-4v-li-ion-cordless-robotic-law
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2014, 18:42:52
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149 (http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149)
I bit big for your parents gaff, I'd suggest  :-\
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2014, 18:43:17
Ive found the ideal mower for TB......he can sit on the patio with a beer and watch it cutting the grass  :y :y ;D

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/bosch-indego-32-4v-li-ion-cordless-robotic-law
I was eying that up a few days ago...  (but not seriously)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 06 April 2014, 18:44:04
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149 (http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149)
I bit big for your parents gaff, I'd suggest  :-\

Same size as the current one? Build wise ok?
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2014, 18:49:56
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149 (http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149)
I bit big for your parents gaff, I'd suggest  :-\

Same size as the current one? Build wise ok?
Exactly.

Not a make I've heard of, but Costco do tend to source a lot of Yankee stuff, often of quite good quality. Downside is spares may be more difficult to source over here.  That said, in the 15yrs I had my Honda, I never replaced anything other than oil. Cleaned air filter with a compressor once a year, cleaned and regapped plug at same time, and sharpened and balanced the blade.
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: tunnie on 06 April 2014, 18:53:05
Any thoughts on this?

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149 (http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_9,cos_9.6,cos_9.6.2/153149)
I bit big for your parents gaff, I'd suggest  :-\

Same size as the current one? Build wise ok?
Exactly.

Not a make I've heard of, but Costco do tend to source a lot of Yankee stuff, often of quite good quality. Downside is spares may be more difficult to source over here.  That said, in the 15yrs I had my Honda, I never replaced anything other than oil. Cleaned air filter with a compressor once a year, cleaned and regapped plug at same time, and sharpened and balanced the blade.

Size not the problem, like a big mower  :y

It's just starting it, needs to be easy for FatherT  :)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: pscocoa on 06 April 2014, 22:32:02
Stihl cordless

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34956042/2012-04-07-073%20%28450x800%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: pscocoa on 06 April 2014, 22:36:58
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34956042/2012-04-07-073%20%28450x800%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 00:51:24
http://www.toysrus.com/buy/pretty-in-pink/fisher-price-bubble-mower-pink-2471678
Title: Re: Cordless Mowers
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 April 2014, 01:00:54
Is that fire proof :-\