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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: RolandL on 06 April 2014, 15:20:34
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Hi Guys n Gals,
Had a look in maintenance guide and can't see a how too.
So, what's the easiest way to remove a door hinge pin?. Haynes says Vauxhall use a special tool to drift out. And once removed can they be re-used..
Roland
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That's the way to do it, and Haynes lies ::)
The doors are bastid heavy too, so fronts will require assistance... rears can be done closed, with front doors open, then simply wind the window down, take the weight and pull the exterior handle. Refit in reverse :y
Fronts can be removed same way if the wings are off :y
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Disconnect the battery and leave the car to stand for 30 mins before tampering with the front doors electrics. There is a crash sensor pop riveted to the lower section of the drivers door, and if you turn the ignition on with the sensor disconnected then you will probably end up with the Air Bag light on.
I borrowed a proper tool from a friend to extract the pins. You may be able to get them out by gripping the flared end with mole grips and belting the b'jesus on the mole grip handle. They are 'kin tight though. If you're doing the job on your own, remove the window and winder mechanism first to add lightness. The front doors are very very heavy when fully built, and just heavy when stripped. The pins are cheap enough to use new ones.
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Haynes says Vauxhall use a special tool to drift out. ......
Door pin removal tool :y http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Door-Hinge-Pin-Removal-Tool-Kit-4pc-/160836026655?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item257293011f
though I made one that was a slot in a flattened bar that I used under the flare of the pin
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X84GNB 2.5 petrol estate
Stripping for spares, this afternoon I removed the doors - easier than removing door motors, locks, etc.
No special tools required, just a 9mm open ended spanner, a lump hammer and some 1/2" socket spanner long extensions to use as drifts, and an allen key.
On front door, disconnect the stay bar, then remove upper hinge pin by holding 9mm spanner held in a mole wrench on the lip of upper hinge pin and bashing it out. Allen key is popped into the upper hinge to hold things together, door supported by jack. Bottom hinge pin is removed similarly, bashing from below. Then allen key is removed, wiring uncoupled and door removed.
Rear doors similar, door stay removed by undoing one bolt at door pillar; access for drift more awkward, but can be done.
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Haynes says Vauxhall use a special tool to drift out. ......
Door pin removal tool :y http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Door-Hinge-Pin-Removal-Tool-Kit-4pc-/160836026655?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item257293011f
though I made one that was a slot in a flattened bar that I used under the flare of the pin
I have that kit, had it for years, but it did not work on my Omega. The screwed on cap seemed to act like a wedge on the hinge pin and spread it more firmly into the hinge. The tool you made , like the long bar in the picture, sounds ideal. Next time I must make one too.
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Haynes says Vauxhall use a special tool to drift out. ......
Door pin removal tool :y http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Door-Hinge-Pin-Removal-Tool-Kit-4pc-/160836026655?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item257293011f
though I made one that was a slot in a flattened bar that I used under the flare of the pin
I have that kit, had it for years, but it did not work on my Omega. The screwed on cap seemed to act like a wedge on the hinge pin and spread it more firmly into the hinge. The tool you made , like the long bar in the picture, sounds ideal. Next time I must make one too.
Made from silver steel :y
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/General/hingepinremoval.jpg)
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Haynes says Vauxhall use a special tool to drift out. ......
Door pin removal tool :y http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Door-Hinge-Pin-Removal-Tool-Kit-4pc-/160836026655?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item257293011f
though I made one that was a slot in a flattened bar that I used under the flare of the pin
I have that kit, had it for years, but it did not work on my Omega. The screwed on cap seemed to act like a wedge on the hinge pin and spread it more firmly into the hinge. The tool you made , like the long bar in the picture, sounds ideal. Next time I must make one too.
Made from silver steel :y
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/General/hingepinremoval.jpg)
Splendid! Much better than a 9mm spanner held in a Mole wrench.
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There have been some great replies, thank you :y
Erm, this is probably going to sound like a really stupid question, :-[ but.. Andy B, how do you use the tool you made?
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I use an 8(?)mm spanner wedged under the pin lip and lever the pin out to get it started.
Then tap the handle up while holding the spanner on, to knock the pin out the rest of the way.
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Erm, this is probably going to sound like a really stupid question, :-[ but.. Andy B, how do you use the tool you made?
Put the end with the slot around the flare of the hinge pin & then tw4t the bar with a lump hammer! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I clobbered the pin in the wrong direction first though just enough to move it slightly, & then removed the pin. :y
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I use an 8(?)mm spanner wedged under the pin lip and lever the pin out to get it started.
Then tap the handle up while holding the spanner on, to knock the pin out the rest of the way.
the roll pins are IIRC 6mm dia so I'd have thought you'd have needed a slightly smaller spanner ...... 1/4" perhaps or 7mm :-\ :-\
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second set of hands really makes a big difference if you can get assistance :y
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And I place a 25 gallon drum, or something of similar height as the gap under the door, to catch the door if it drops.
No need for special tools IMO. But whatever works :)
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second set of hands really makes a big difference if you can get assistance :y
Agree 100% - That way you can get them to hold your chosen removal tool whilst you tw4t it with a lump hammer, and if you miss it doesn't hurt ;) ;D.
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I understand now :y
LCO112G, I will have a helper, so I think I will take your advice ;D
thanks for the help guys :y :y :y
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I use an 8(?)mm spanner wedged under the pin lip and lever the pin out to get it started.
Then tap the handle up while holding the spanner on, to knock the pin out the rest of the way.
the roll pins are IIRC 6mm dia so I'd have thought you'd have needed a slightly smaller spanner ...... 1/4" perhaps or 7mm :-\ :-\
I certainly used a 9mm spanner. I have just checked. an 8mm spanner just goes on, tight fit. Trouble is, the smaller the spanner, the weaker it is. Anyway, I am sure 8 or 9mm will do the job. A tool like Andy's is preferable if you can make one.
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Resurrecting an old thread, thinking about the top pin, there is a flat plastic cap on the top.
Does this have to be removed before hammering the pin down?
Thanks.
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Well, I haven't tried it in place... but I suppose if you left it in place, the force required to remove the pin would destroy the cap, or squish it to become unusable - they do ping off with your fingernail, though :y
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Thank you for the clarification. :y :y
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Tip for doing it on your own, get 2 stud bolts smaller than the pins, tie some string to them, and insert them from the top when removing the pins, then when your ready and have a good grip on door etc, pull the lower bolt out followed by the upper one whilst lifting the door, easier with the window down too. :y
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Or... do it on your own and scratch the door... :'( which is the method I employed. Once.
Leaving the rear door in place, and opening the front door is brilliant, wish I'd twigged that beforehand :)