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Title: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 06 April 2014, 19:30:38
Today's race saw a safety car 10 or so laps from the end. Obviously bunched the field up and we where in far a scrap to the end. Good stuff.

But I've thought the races are too long for a while. As the middle section of today's race was very precessional. Possibly might be a case for two races in the same amount of air time...?

Wsb races have two races a meeting. F1 might needs a bit of a re shuffle, but seems doable to me.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: tunnie on 06 April 2014, 19:32:43
Would really make drivers go for it more, can't see it happening though.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: cleggy on 06 April 2014, 23:17:58
The most boring race for ten years has just produced the best. So why change decades of race length. ???
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 06 April 2014, 23:33:04
The most boring race for ten years has just produced the best. So why change decades of race length. ???

Because.... Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

It's not until the last 1/4 of the race do things tend to get going.

So, remove half the race length so they have to gor for it from start to finish. Then have two races, so they have to do it twice. Double the points per event. Double the fun for the paying public.

Not sure what you mean by the most boring race has produced the best. Btw
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: cleggy on 06 April 2014, 23:46:03
For years Bahrain has produced a boring race didn't you watch them?
As for shortening the race, DON'T BE STUPID. ;)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: henryd on 06 April 2014, 23:46:16
The most boring race for ten years has just produced the best. So why change decades of race length. ???

Because.... Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

It's not until the last 1/4 of the race do things tend to get going.

So, remove half the race length so they have to gor for it from start to finish. Then have two races, so they have to do it twice. Double the points per event. Double the fun for the paying public.

Not sure what you mean by the most boring race has produced the best. Btw

I think cleggy means that this race is normally pretty boring but wasn't today and I agree with him,I thought it was a cracking race :y

And I must bloody type quicker :-X
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: humbucker on 06 April 2014, 23:59:47
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 April 2014, 00:04:53
Yes, just one lap would do!  :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 April 2014, 00:06:25
I reckon a quarter of a mile at Santa Pod would probably hold my  interest for the entire race. ::)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 00:11:56
For years Bahrain has produced a boring race didn't you watch them?
As for shortening the race, DON'T BE STUPID. ;)

It was only interesting AFTER THE SAFETY CAR, STUPID. ;)

If it wasn't for Pasta flip that car over,... Oh never mind.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: cleggy on 07 April 2014, 00:19:23
Freak off Muppet, they were racing down the field well before the safety car.If you don't understand the sport then shut the freak up. Okeh ::) :D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 00:25:00
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 00:45:14
Freak off Muppet, they were racing down the field well before the safety car.If you don't understand the sport then shut the freak up. Okeh ::) :D ;) ;D

Rubbish. ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: humbucker on 07 April 2014, 07:05:08
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 10:29:57
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: The Red Baron on 07 April 2014, 10:38:03
thought it was a good race tbh, leave as is i say.  :)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: humbucker on 07 April 2014, 10:41:38
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: plym ian on 07 April 2014, 10:58:03
A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: humbucker on 07 April 2014, 11:00:22
A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y

Have you been playing Super Sprint on your Atari again?!  ;D

Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 April 2014, 11:12:34
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
So it's not "just as entertaining" as the racing then? I don't see the strategic elements "setting pulses through the roof" do you?
I take your point though...

...although, I see a good few racers being interviewed on the grid being asked " what's the plan for the race" in so many words. Your not looking to hear answers like "oh I'm just going to wobble round in last place and admire the view" obviously the racer is going to give an odd look to the interviewer and say "I'm going to go as fat as I can and hopefully win the race"

If, then, his team gets on the blower and tells him to slow down, due to tyres or fuel for instance, the that tells me summats wrong. Same way that when the team gets on the blower and says, slow down the gear box is over heating or whatever fault.

If your asking your driver to slow down, for whatever reason, something is wrong. As happened a lot last season.

This season remains to be seen, on that front, but given a rather precessional areas of races so far, I think shorter races would solve a few issues with the F1 format.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: cleggy on 07 April 2014, 11:52:59
A figure of 8 track with a cross over would make it better :y
Suzuka without the bridge ::)  ;D ;D

gixer, let me explain so that you understand. It is like a wink, fun at the start and into the hard straight with lots of thinking and imagination( STRATEGY), and all the excitement comes at the finish, and the longer it is the more stimulating. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
GOT IT ??? ;) :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 07 April 2014, 11:53:16
If they go as fat as they can, won't they slow the car down?  :-\
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: The Red Baron on 07 April 2014, 11:59:52
If they go as fat as they can, won't they slow the car down?  :-\
Lmao. i was thinking that myself.  :D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: redelitev6 on 07 April 2014, 12:04:34
Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: The Red Baron on 07 April 2014, 12:08:06
Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
imho i think that would be a great thing to do, would spice it up a bit.  :)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: humbucker on 07 April 2014, 12:16:13
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Once the first few laps are out the way, the teams are just waiting to get through to the end. Conserving tyres, checking fuel etc.

I believe the word that you are looking for is 'strategy' - just as much a part of the race as the first and final pushes, and often just as entertaining.

Ypu find strategy more entertaining than full on racing?

Who said "more entertaining"? I said, "often just as entertaining". And don't call me Ypu  ;D

Ok, just as entertaining ::) seems most odd to me. But each to their own I guess.

I think most motorsport fans would agree that team tactics and strategy - and the subsequent execution/outcome of that strategy - are a fascinating element to any top-shelf racing. Wheel to wheel action is, of course, what sets pulses through the roof, but you can't really have one without the other.
So it's not "just as entertaining" as the racing then? I don't see the strategic elements "setting pulses through the roof" do you?

I said that it can be just as entertaining, yes. That doesn't mean that the enjoyment is necessarily measured in the same way. Think of it like this; if I go to the cinema and watch a comedy-drama I can be entertained by the funny AND emotive elements, but my reaction is quite different to the two even though I might enjoy both in equal measure.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: omega3000 on 07 April 2014, 14:54:41
1 lap is enough  ::)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: henryd on 07 April 2014, 16:04:25
Add some interest by having a reverse grid ? Max Chilton on the front row every race !
imho i think that would be a great thing to do, would spice it up a bit.  :)

Yep +1 :y :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Rods2 on 07 April 2014, 16:21:22
Just a tad, Santa Pod will do nicely.  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Lewis being on the slower tyres and still winning shows the difference between the good and the great.

If you want to liven it up further just add slicks, random oil slicks or a few more chicanes, 2 or 3 clones of Pastor 'Crasher' Maldonado. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Varche on 07 April 2014, 16:28:08
damp races are always a good leveller of talent.

The thing about the race length is having got the circus half way around the world a short race wouldn't be worthy of the build up. Spanish TV talks for about 2 hours and fifty minutes about Alonso and how great he is. The other ten minutes covers the rest of the field. Then post race they talk for hours about how well Alonso did.

I think two hours or so many laps whichever comes first is about right. maybe those that want shorter races have too much pressure on their lives in this "instant age".
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2014, 18:32:23
Same length race, just encourage the pansies to race properly, and remove the artificial overtakes, such as KERS, DRS and tyres designed not to last.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 07 April 2014, 19:06:51
I like the length of the races. Although could it work by following a touring car format...... 3 X 20 lap races where they have to push hard if they want to get ahead?  :-\ Would improve the day out....
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 07 April 2014, 19:40:08
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: pscocoa on 07 April 2014, 19:42:50
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Bertie Winters is on here all the time..
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 April 2014, 20:38:53
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Didn't you know he drives an Omega?  ::)  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Rods2 on 07 April 2014, 21:23:26
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Probably, looking for Omega reliability. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 April 2014, 23:28:16
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Probably, looking for Omega reliability. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Or advice on tyres and suspension setups.  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 07:42:37
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Probably, looking for Omega reliability. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Or advice on tyres and suspension setups.  :-X  ;D
Well.....he's come to the right place. :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 April 2014, 09:52:40
A reverse grid and the cars have to be equipped with Wanli ditchfinders which have to last the race!  :y  That would make it more interesting!  :)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 10:14:03
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?

Bertie Winters is on here all the time..
The only Bertie Winters I know departed about 20 years ago :-\
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 10:29:57
A reverse grid and the cars have to be equipped with Wanli ditchfinders which have to last the race!  :y  That would make it more interesting!  :)
Ermmmm.........yes. ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 08 April 2014, 16:02:02
Nope but make the fuel tanks only big enough to hold fuel for 3/4 of a race and bring back dedicated refuelling  stops  :y

Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 April 2014, 19:13:06
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a sark arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:14:15
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 April 2014, 19:17:10
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*

Highly talented, if I may say so. I'll endorce you on LinkedIn. ;)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:22:09
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*

Highly talented, if I may say so. I'll endorce you on LinkedIn. ;)
You need to check your spelling. If you don't, it shows that you don't care and any old spelling will do. If you take that premise into the work place, then you will end up with a half-arsed job that will end up losing you business.  :P :P
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 April 2014, 19:30:13
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*

Highly talented, if I may say so. I'll endorce you on LinkedIn. ;)
You need to check your spelling. If you don't, it shows that you don't care and any old spelling will do. If you take that premise into the work place, then you will end up with a half-arsed job that will end up losing you business.  :P :P

Nout ring with my smelling.


;D. That's genuine Jobs btw. ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:32:36
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*

Highly talented, if I may say so. I'll endorce you on LinkedIn. ;)
You need to check your spelling. If you don't, it shows that you don't care and any old spelling will do. If you take that premise into the work place, then you will end up with a half-arsed job that will end up losing you business.  :P :P

Nout ring with my smelling.


;D. That's genuine Jobs btw. ;D
Anyway!! Never mind me being sarky, at least I'm not unpleasant and obnoxious like you. And that must be true cause I read it........somewhere.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 April 2014, 19:36:31
I wonder if Bernie looks in on the forum now and again?
If he's looking for a nice arse for the f1 paddock I'm sure Esta will get the job, no second interview required. :P
:-* :-* :-*

Highly talented, if I may say so. I'll endorce you on LinkedIn. ;)
You need to check your spelling. If you don't, it shows that you don't care and any old spelling will do. If you take that premise into the work place, then you will end up with a half-arsed job that will end up losing you business.  :P :P

Nout ring with my smelling.


;D. That's genuine Jobs btw. ;D
Anyway!! Never mind me being sarky, at least I'm not unpleasant and obnoxious like you. And that must be true cause I read it........somewhere.

You dreamt it in a pill free psychosis. 100lines for Esta.

Remember meds.
Remember meds.
Remember meds.
Remember m...
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:37:42
No, I definitely read it...on this very forum I think.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 April 2014, 19:41:42
No, I definitely read it...on this very forum I think.

If its True, I don't need to hold back anymore. Do i, [insert insult here] !
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:45:30
No, I definitely read it...on this very forum I think.

If its True, I don't need to hold back anymore. Do i, arse face?
I'm hurt, deeply, deeply hurt. :'(
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 19:48:28
No, I definitely read it...on this very forum I think.

If its True, I don't need to hold back anymore. Do i, arse face?
I'm hurt, deeply, deeply hurt. :'(
It had been suggested that you might be a tight arse, but three inches shouldn't produce so much as a whimper, let alone tears ::)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:49:59
No, I definitely read it...on this very forum I think.

If its True, I don't need to hold back anymore. Do i, arse face?
I'm hurt, deeply, deeply hurt. :'(
It had been suggested that you might be a tight arse, but three inches shouldn't produce so much as a whimper, let alone tears ::)
Well......I suppose you'd know the long and short of it. You've seen had it often enough.  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 19:57:41
If you don't mind, I am in the middle of my tea :o
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 19:58:47
If you don't mind, I am in the middle of my tea :o
Chipolatas?  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 19:59:36
If you don't mind, I am in the middle of my tea :o
Chipolatas?  ;D
Steak and chips as it goes...
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 20:04:49
If you don't mind, I am in the middle of my tea :o
Chipolatas?  ;D
Steak and chips as it goes...
That's what I did tonight......with a fried egg on  :y
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 20:11:46
Same again tomorrow night, so that might be chip shop chips and an egg or two as well ::)
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 20:13:01
Same again tomorrow night, so that might be chip shop chips and an egg or two as well ::)
Proper taxi drivers food.  ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 20:24:00
Same again tomorrow night, so that might be chip shop chips and an egg or two as well ::)
Proper taxi drivers food.  ;D
Can't decide between popcorn or ice cream for pud :-\ Tummy wants ice cream, but this place is fast building up to a big fat bowl of popcorn ;D
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: Stemo on 08 April 2014, 20:25:27
Same again tomorrow night, so that might be chip shop chips and an egg or two as well ::)
Proper taxi drivers food.  ;D
Can't decide between popcorn or ice cream for pud :-\ Tummy wants ice cream, but this place is fast building up to a big fat bowl of popcorn ;D
Nah. Handbags.
Title: Re: Should F1 races be shorter?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 April 2014, 20:30:05
 ;D

Ice cream it is then :y