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Title: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 15:37:56
Papers awash with rumours of Moyes imminent sacking. No smoke without fire, but board room instructions to the manger to "go for Europe" where telling IMO.

United had a relatively simple run in, all they had to do was beat Everton to pretty much secure the rest of the points this season. If they did so, there was a chance of a spot in Europe. However slim.

Fell at the first hurdle after that instruction. I'm all for giving a manager time, but how long, knowing the guy ain't got it.? The performance against Everton was confused and disorganised.


But who will replace him if he goes...?

Mourinho, rumoured to be upset he was over looked in favour of Moyes
Laudrup, great performance with Swansea
Solskjaer, legend in Red. Showing signs of improvement in blue.
Giggs, already player coach at Utd.
A return of Fergie himself?
A few others mentioned but can't see any of them n hunt tbh.


Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Stemo on 21 April 2014, 16:02:34
Van Gaal 4/1 favourite.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Stemo on 21 April 2014, 16:05:18
I would suggest Rafa Benitez.  :y


Que?  ;D
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 17:44:04
I would suggest Rafa Benitez.  :y


Que?  ;D

Yeah you would ;D

Van who?
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Stemo on 21 April 2014, 18:03:44
I would suggest Rafa Benitez.  :y


Que?  ;D

Yeah you would ;D

Van who?
Hollands manager......I think.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: plym ian on 21 April 2014, 18:04:26
I'll give it a go can't do any worse than he already has ;D

And I'll get a fat pay cheque to boot.

He was always the wrong choice for Man U. Look at his record at Everton what did he achive?

Everton ar on for a cracking finish this season just about says it all really :y
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 April 2014, 19:48:21
I think Neil Warnock is available.  :)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 April 2014, 20:14:23
Ian Dowie would be more suitable  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Rods2 on 21 April 2014, 20:28:10
Jurgen Klopp of Borussia Dortmund would be a good choice. :y :y :y

But I think it will be Van Gaal, they could do a lot worse.

Until Christmas I was prepared to give Moyes the benefit of the doubt, but after the poor performances this year, I don't think he has got what it takes to manage Man Utd, so hopefully time for him to go.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: jonny2112 on 21 April 2014, 20:34:47
It'll be interesting for sure  ???
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Stemo on 21 April 2014, 20:55:18
Eric Cantana is 250/1  ;D
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 21:40:53
Some put Martinez in the frame. Now there's an insult :o

Pep Guardiola even. Yeah right, like he needs another job. He'd be good though.


IMO, Ferguson WAS Utd. No Fergie, the spine is gone.
What sort of iron will does he have that defines the word "believe" ...?
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 22:10:29
Simeone. They must be joking. Argentine thug. :o
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: btc on 21 April 2014, 22:21:58
Don't watch football or have any interest but what about one of the long term players/coaches Ryan gigs for example has spent most of his career at the club and still a stalwart
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 22:27:38
Yep, I agree. Personally.

As most decent managers are employed, a care taker manager to the end of the season will be likely I'd of thought. Giggs being top of that particular list. :y
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 22:38:36
Fail story now is, he'll get a 10million pay off. Even though he hasn't gone yet, and completely forgeting that Moyes was previously in a very well paid, very secure job at Everton.

It was always a risk to go to Man Utd. They would have to offer a pay off fee for a Moyes to leave Everton.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 April 2014, 22:46:21
You're reading The Fail??  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Jusme on 21 April 2014, 23:18:47
Don't watch football or have any interest But what position does this Moyes chap play in? Oh! he's the manager.... I would have thought that the 11 'professional' players on the pitch being paid a 'gazillion' pounds a week would know how to play the game without any manager input???......'Now DUCK'.   :-X :-X
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 23:20:21
You're reading The Fail??  :o :o :o

Nope, sky news are. Labour lout and Tory boy. ;)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 April 2014, 00:11:29
You're reading The Fail??  :o :o :o

Nope, sky news are. Labour lout and Tory boy. ;)

That's even worse, quoting The Fail 3rd hand!!  ;D
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Andy B on 22 April 2014, 00:25:01
Don't watch football or have any interest But what position does this Moyes chap play in? Oh! he's the manager.... I would have thought that the 11 'professional' players on the pitch being paid a 'gazillion' pounds a week would know how to play the game without any manager input???......'Now DUCK'.   :-X :-X

That's what I think  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 05:13:35
You're reading The Fail??  :o :o :o

Nope, sky news are. Labour lout and Tory boy. ;)

That's even worse, quoting The Fail 3rd hand!!  ;D

Your quite right. Disgraceful paper however handed.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: cleggy on 22 April 2014, 09:48:48
Confirmed by Man U just before 9 this morning
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Jusme on 22 April 2014, 10:13:29
I don't know who will replace Moyes, and i'm about as interested as the 'man in the moon'.. But whoever it is I hope part of his contract stipulates that. 'All teams to play Man U, must put their desire to win the match, second to the manager's desire to 'hang on to his job'.. :-\ 
I suppose everyone working in the manufacturing industry who has a less than perfect manager, and is on a paltry wage (compared to the prima donna's in football) is covered for turning out 'shoddy work' this week, and every week in fact, and the manager will be dismissed as incompetent ??? Mind you, should any machinist turn out a 'good piece of work', (what he is paid for.) I hope he will be able to run the length of the factory with his overalls over his head, and all other machinists jump on him bestowing hugs and kisses. FGS.. >:(
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 10:22:45
Giggs to be announced as care taker manager.
That bit I like. Rightly or wrongly. Will he play as well?

Not sure Bout this Van Haal fellow. Tbh. Bit of a knuckle dragger maybe, or is that unfair?



Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 April 2014, 10:28:26
Looks like Man U will follow the crowd in future and sack at the first sign of trouble.  ::) 

Moyes had a 6 year contract which seems pointless really if you're going to sack after a bad season and then have to compensate that failed manager.  I wonder how much Chelsea have paid out in compo to their various sacked managers over the last few years?  :-\
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 April 2014, 11:22:22
Manure's team was on its last legs 2 or 3 years ago.
The squad is full of whining overpaid ego's who thought because they played for manure, they was something special.
 
Very few of these players were fit to wear the shirt imo compared to the class of 92 who came through the ranks as kids and knew what it meant to wear the shirt.

25 years or more ago, fergie came down from Aberdeen, totally ripped the setup apart and rebuilt it from the bottom upwards.
It took a while but success came but as in all things good, it comes to a end if you don't keep on top of it.
It was just too easy to spend a shed full of money, buy a so called world superstar who would do the business for a season or two then opps off
Fergie was getting old, losing his edge and should have sat back a little and brought his successor in who knew how the club worked.
Imo, Giggs, Scholes and even Beckham should have been a bigger part of the setup years ago to keep the continuity going.

So fergie finally decided to go and leave manure in the shit  :)
He knew he had made mistakes and things would need to be rebuilt up again like what he had to do over 25 years ago so he picked moyes because he knew he would get the job done eventually if left alone for a few years.
Maybe moyes should have held onto more of the backroom staff for a while but you live and die by your decisions  ;D


Right, i'll throw a name in the ring for the job ................ Warren Joyce with Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt as assistants.

If you don't know who Warren Joyce is, do some research on him.
He is manure through and through and was the man behind the development of everything that used to be good about the club.
Even when he was thrown in at the deep end during 1998 at my club (Google the great escape hull city), his heart was always at Old Trafford.
Twice a week, he was down at manures youth academy teaching the young gigs and chums how to play football and what it means to be a manure player.
On his days off, he was in the three tuns pub around the corner from me supping ale and watching his team.

Or if you want a quick fix to keep the plastic supporters and shareholders happy, bring in another big name, spend stupid amounts of money on more ego's to replace the fading ego's that wear the shirt now  :(

I'll end on this, moyes would have got the job done.
That's why he was given a 6 year contract but sadly, the plastics, the shareholders and the media got there way  :(
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Rods2 on 22 April 2014, 14:07:49
Unfortunately, I think Moyes undoing was his caution and always setting out his stall (like at Everton) not to lose (and then losing!), rather than to win. This is not the Man Utd way. At the time I thought the job was made for Mourinho and I think we would have had another 20 year long reign manager if he had been chosen. Mistakes were definitely made by MU management and Moyes, by getting rid of all of the backroom staff.

Personally, I think we should go for a younger next generation manager. This might be Giggs with Mike Phelan as his assistant, but would be a risk where Giggs has no real managerial experience. They could do worse than Martinez who has brought Everton on by leaps and bounds with a few good buys and being a better manager than Moyes.

The pressure is now on the Glaziers and the Man Utd management as they can't afford a second mistake. A one year dip is just that, 2 or more years is a decline and takes time and more money to come back from as Liverpool have found out.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 14:17:39
Yes Moyes didn't understand the Utd way.

I'm not sure Jose would either though tbh. Although he would be successful. But the press would be hounding him constantly for that little bit of over emotion and loss of control that's never far away with him. 
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: omega3000 on 22 April 2014, 14:44:16
Apparently he's only getting 5 million  ::) Not a bad pay off for 11 months work , at least rooney got his pay rise while moyes was there ..money well spent  ::)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2014, 15:39:41
I have applied for the job (I too know nothing about football). My Dad will be head coach. ;D ;D ;D

Six year contract. Severance pay when they find out we are rubbish...... Joking apart I did apply for the Wolves manager job back in the late 80's. Didn't get an interview.

All you have to do is look at Mclaren F1 team and realise that without decent management you aren't going anywhere. True you need good players but you must also need good direction.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 17:02:20
Never a truer word spoken Mr Varche.

But don't get me started on general management :(
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: omega3000 on 22 April 2014, 18:14:45
Quote
Manchester United's total wage bill for the financial year 2012/13 stood at £182m,

 :D

Will be interesting to see if Giggs can turn them around for his £80,000 a week  :-\



Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: tunnie on 22 April 2014, 19:45:41
New Management? You can't polish a turd  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: cam2502 on 22 April 2014, 19:56:51
My tuppence worth .... Martin. O'Niel with Roy Keane as his assistant. He was in the frame 2 or 3 years ago apparantly and Keane is a Utd legend.

Think the fans would be happy with that?
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: the alarming man on 22 April 2014, 21:24:37
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Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: tidla on 22 April 2014, 23:03:54
Eric Cantana is 250/1  ;D

A match for Mr Fergusons temper


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo2aUfwPQvs
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 April 2014, 00:13:28
My tuppence worth .... Martin. O'Niel with Roy Keane as his assistant. He was in the frame 2 or 3 years ago apparantly and Keane is a Utd legend.

Think the fans would be happy with that?

Keane is impossible to please with an outrageous temper. Total lunatic. Perfect for a mid field captain in the think of battle, so to speak, but a coach? No chance.

O'neil? Maybe, but not sure he's ruthless enough. Pep Guardiola might swing it, but why would he leave Bayern?

Anchelotti. :-\ dunno. Can't see that either. Could Utd become a victim of their own success...? Last 5 years should/could of been spent training the next manager.

We've not heard the last of this, I bet.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 April 2014, 00:19:49
I can see 5 or 6 managers coming and going over the next decade.  ::)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: biggriffin on 23 April 2014, 07:20:14
?????
 if everybody who had an opinion on this was that good they would have more mangers than players..

don't get or understand the game or why it has made the lead story on the news.must be a slow news day.
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2014, 16:27:43
Rooney is the ideal candidate , well he's getting a good wedge for a defender  ::)
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: r1 on 24 April 2014, 21:35:08
wrong mans been sacked

it should have been the 11 lazy bas@@@s on the pitch
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: cleggy on 25 April 2014, 17:26:12
Player Power :(
Reminds me of Clough going to Leeds >:(
Title: Re: Moyes replacement.
Post by: ronnyd on 25 April 2014, 17:40:43
Ask any Ipswich fan what they think of Keane as a manager. >:(