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Title: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 11 June 2008, 12:05:03
hi guys.

Question for you all.

My little boy (hes 3) over the last couple of weeks has had a few problems and the have progressivly began to become worse.

I have noticed that his behaviour has changed. (was putting this down to my hubby working away from work but he should be used to it buy now!)
He is constantly complainin hes hungry and thrusty. ( thought this could be a groth spurt but hes not increasing his weight )

He is constantly going to the loo and not just a little bit he pee's lots every time. and buy about lunch time its completely clear. ( thought this might be an infection but hes not complaining that it hurts and his winky is not sore or red in colour)

HE says hes tired all the time too but takes forever to go to sleep (thought this could be all the fresh air hes been getting)

was chatting to several friends last night and they all came out with the same thing.............they reckon he might be type 1 diabetic :'( :'(

i am takin him to the doc today.  Thinkin about what my friends have said i am begining to agree with them. i have to draw the line at him askin for something to drink and eat at 10pm.

Well the question is..... am i reading to much into this or is their another logical explanation to all his symptoms?

(god i hope hes not diabetic, i dont think i could handle it!)

Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: jereboam on 11 June 2008, 12:15:40
My immediate reaction was Type 1 Diabetes, but it could be many other things as well.  

Is there any family history of diabetes?  

Diabetes is easily controlled these days, and the health services will be able to advise on how to manage it.  Even if it is diagnosed, it isn't that difficult to live with, so don't get too worried about it.

But take him to the doctor a.s.a.p.
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Jimbob on 11 June 2008, 12:17:06
Believe me, these things can be hard to accept, but you just have to deal with it.

I have not long gone down the not accepting there is a problem with our 4 year old.

Docs will be able to advise further, dont wonder, wait for the facts from the doc.
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 11 June 2008, 12:18:39
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My immediate reaction was Type 1 Diabetes, but it could be many other things as well.  

Is there any family history of diabetes?  

Diabetes is easily controlled these days, and the health services will be able to advise on how to manage it.  Even if it is diagnosed, it isn't that difficult to live with, so don't get too worried about it.

But take him to the doctor a.s.a.p.

There is no family history from what i am aware.
he has a very good diet he gets all his meals at pre-school and they have to provide a stable diet.

We are off to the doctors at 330pm.

Here's hoping its something else.
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Post by: Kieran on 11 June 2008, 12:44:08
Good luck hope it all goes well :y
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 June 2008, 12:49:41
Thirsty and tired is a very good indication of diabetes, get him checked out asap.
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Post by: psychnurse on 11 June 2008, 13:05:29
Hyperthyroidisim would be my guess. But im sure the doc will be on the case. The insomnia you describe is certainly not typical of diabetes, although could indicate any kind of growth hormone/ endocrine disorder.

Let us know how he gets on,and best of luck  :y :)
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 June 2008, 14:11:20
Sorry to hear this, Marie. I'm sure the little chap will be OK. It's easy to jump to the worst case scenario in times like this as it plays on your mind. I'm sure the chances are it will be something simple but you're right to get him checked out.

Kevin
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 June 2008, 14:29:25
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Sorry to hear this, Marie. I'm sure the little chap will be OK. It's easy to jump to the worst case scenario in times like this as it plays on your mind. I'm sure the chances are it will be something simple but you're right to get him checked out.

Kevin

Agreed - it will put your mind at rest.

Slightly off topic, but the worst thing you can do is second guess and self diagnose.

I found a couple of lumps in the back of my mouth not long ago, and I almost convinced myself it was cancer. The dentist had a feel and said "it's your structure, they've always been there"! So I felt a right muppet, but he said I did right in getting checked out.

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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 June 2008, 14:51:25
Absolutely, its very easy to draw worst case diagnosis.

As an observation, my three year old is also going toilet and weeing lots, drinking loads and not to keen to go to sleep at night at the moment but then, its hot, hes outside a lot, he doesn't stop running round so hes drinking more and consuming more energy and hence fuel!

He is also always tired but, hes so bloody excitable its no surprise!
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: unclelicklug on 11 June 2008, 15:17:13
My wife's bro was diagnosed with diabetes not much older than your lad, he leads a very active full life, including serious hill walking / climbing, marathon running, emigrated to NZ where he is running one of the country's largest hotels - he also has a family out there.
In the next month he is actually returning to the UK to run a brand new hotel over here.

So not all cases will be the same, but it is not 100% gloom and doom if your son is diagnosed.

In any case I wish you and your son the best
Rick
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Entwood on 11 June 2008, 15:20:56
As previously said .. don't try and do the Doc's work ... we all over-diagnose and see the worst when we try and second-guess the medics.

There are numerous reasons, some already given for these symptoms, a blood test will remove most of them.

Another possibility is : Hungry/thirsty/not wanting to sleep could all be missing his dad and wanting more attention from you to compensate, you probably allow the drinks but not constant food, so he pees more .. ?

So nothing physically wrong .. but it could also be what you say ... you just don't know so wait it out and get the expert opinion.

Whatever it is you'll get support and help from OOF'ers once you know, until then .. have a cuppa and TRY to relax a little, your anxiety can affect the little'un - easy to say I know, damned sight harder to do .. :(

We'll all be waiting for your news ... chin up   :y :y :y
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 11 June 2008, 16:57:26
ok so my son now hates me and the doctor.

his 2 pee samples came back completely clear absoutly nothing wrong with them....great. then the finger prick test sugar level6.1 doc said its ok. great

Doc said to give him a couple of weeks and if it still continues to take him back.

Son just fleeced me in the shop......new football, magazine and sweets! i am now broke....lol

And you right guys its so easy to jump to worse case sinario. i still think there is something wrong with him. sorry mothers gut feelin.

Best go give my wee boy some lovin if he lets me near him...... ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: jereboam on 11 June 2008, 17:02:33
That's a brilliant result!  Delighted for you.

I agree with what everyone else says about not diagnosing these things yourself - very dangerous.  But since someone had already mentioned diabetes to you, I was trying to reassure you that, serious as that disease is, it can be managed fairly easily nowadays.

Thankfully, you don't have to wory about that now :)

Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: bob.dent on 11 June 2008, 17:03:45
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ok so my son now hates me and the doctor.

his 2 pee samples came back completely clear absoutly nothing wrong with them....great. then the finger prick test sugar level6.1 doc said its ok. great

Doc said to give him a couple of weeks and if it still continues to take him back.

Son just fleeced me in the shop......new football, magazine and sweets! i am now broke....lol

And you right guys its so easy to jump to worse case sinario. i still think there is something wrong with him. sorry mothers gut feelin.

Best go give my wee boy some lovin if he lets me near him...... ;) ;D ;D ;D

Glad to hear he's ok as far as diabetes goes. :y Kids often go through "odd" phases when growing up so it could be just that. However, a few more tests to put your mind at rest won't do any harm - only to your pocket when you have to give him more treats!! ::)
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Entwood on 11 June 2008, 17:13:53
Good news for the lad.. bad news for your pocket ... he'll play the TLC card hard now .. :)

Good result though.. you can relax a bit now ... :y :y :y
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Post by: HolyCount on 11 June 2008, 18:10:06
Great to hear tests are clear. Could still be down to a growth spurt -- made worse by the hot weather. Remember kids tend to grow in one direction at a time ( up or out) --- lack of weight gain won't rule out a spurt !

Keep an eye on him and see how it goes.  :y
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: amigov6 on 11 June 2008, 19:29:23
I was a single Dad for a while when he was 5. He's 22 now but developed some worrying illnesses/habits along the way. Sounds like growing up stuff to me.
   Most importantly glad nothings's really wrong & if he's "fleecing" you for goodies at the shop he's fine!!!! :y
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: FRE07962128 on 11 June 2008, 20:59:32
Very pleased all is ok Marie, and I know how that must have taken a huge weight off your mind! ;)

I bet he is getting plenty of cuddles apart from goodies! ;D :y  
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Post by: Vamps on 11 June 2008, 21:23:54
Glad he is OK. At his age I used to have to take my daughter for a ride in the car, mosts nights during the summer. No matter how tired she would be she would not settle down, she would happl run to the car 'for a ride around the block' sometimes she would be out for the count in moments, other time a few minutes, always ended up carrying her back into the house to bed.
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Post by: Debs. on 11 June 2008, 21:28:23
I`m pleased the youngster`s test results were good-news Marie :y

Being a Mum and worrying are part of the 'parental' job description I think....but, try not to fret too much, especially with all the other family-concerns you have at the present. ;)
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 12 June 2008, 07:42:06
Thankyou all guy for you reasuring words, they have helped loads.

See the thing is my hubby is never concerned about anything. (he a rock) but when he tells me that hes concerned and worried about our wee boy. i know that its not just me being an over worried mother ;D ;D.

his words" peeing every 20 mins is not normal, take him back to the doc cos something is not right"

hes going back next week.

i woke up today from my wee boy stroking my head today in daddys side of the bed! so sweet. but it was followed by the words mummy i am thrusty again.......arhhhhhhhh.

Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 June 2008, 08:18:00
At least he is OK
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: LJay on 12 June 2008, 12:04:47
Marie, the biggest bit of advice i can give you as a mum is obey your instincts. You and only you know your boy best and if you are concerned keep going back to you doc and if neccesary ask for a second opinion. Dont be fobbed off if you know there is someting wrong with your son.

Not wanting to worry you, but as Jimbob said our son has problems and i have had to fight all the way to get my concerns taken seriously.

Good luck and keep your chin up!
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Entwood on 12 June 2008, 12:21:48
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Marie, the biggest bit of advice i can give you as a mum is obey your instincts. You and only you know your boy best and if you are concerned keep going back to you doc and if neccesary ask for a second opinion. Dont be fobbed off if you know there is someting wrong with your son.

Not wanting to worry you, but as Jimbob said our son has problems and i have had to fight all the way to get my concerns taken seriously.

Good luck and keep your chin up!

I'm sorry to disagree with you .. but "mother knows best" is NOT always correct, and can, sometimes be totally wrong :(

I know of a local case where the mother was "convinced" her son had an eye problem, despite numerous doctors/opticians telling her he was fine, so for a considerable time - 2 years I believe - she dosed his eyes 3 times a day with Optrex - this contains an antibiotic.

The child has recently been diagnosed with aplastic anaemia, caused it is believed, by long term exposure to the antibiotic.

I know this is an extreme case, and there are many mothers who have been proved right when they voice concern ... but not all doctors are wrong all the time ... in fact .. the majority are probably right most of the time.

Just my opinion BTW  
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Jimbob on 12 June 2008, 12:27:49
Entwood, don't go there ;)

you dont want to know how many specialists across 2 different NHS trusts denied there was a problem in our case!

We now have a team agreeing on the problem and are close on a diagnosis, after a lot of hard work and heartache.

But yes, noone is right all the time, Doctors / Parents / Humans, even MarksDTM can be wrong sometimes  ;D
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: maria on 12 June 2008, 12:37:18
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Entwood, don't go there ;)

you dont want to know how many specialists across 2 different NHS trusts denied there was a problem in our case!

We now have a team agreeing on the problem and are close on a diagnosis, after a lard of hard work and heartache.

But yes, noone is right all the time, Doctors / Parents / Humans, even MarksDTM can be wrong sometimes  ;D

I'm with you on this one  with  james you, it took me  yrs to get my daughter to be diagnose saying she had a some wrong with her  and that my daughter had  a dissabillity and i still to this day i cant get help even though she is now been diagnose she is dispraxic and i just have to get on with it but the thing is that she has very bad behaviour probs and she is very hard work and when i first came back to cardiff over 2yrs ago it took me 4 months to get her in to a special school now that is so wrong so dont start me off  
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Post by: albitz on 12 June 2008, 12:38:18
mothers instinct+common sense is usually a good guide. ;)
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Post by: LJay on 12 June 2008, 16:10:51
I'm not saying mums are right all the time but Maries son obviously has something going on to display the symptoms that he has!
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Post by: maria on 12 June 2008, 18:23:11
I sure agree as being a mum of 3 and the oldest being 18 , and 15 and 12 so i know there is something thats not quit right with shane but i hope marie gets to bottem and finds out soon , marie i do hope he will be ok
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: HolyCount on 12 June 2008, 19:04:17
Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 12 June 2008, 19:17:42
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Glad he is OK. At his age I used to have to take my daughter for a ride in the car, mosts nights during the summer. No matter how tired she would be she would not settle down, she would happl run to the car 'for a ride around the block' sometimes she would be out for the count in moments, other time a few minutes, always ended up carrying her back into the house to bed.

Thats whats my brother used to do, when his kids were that age, usually when he'd had enough and they still hadnt fallen asleep by 10pm.....so it was spin round the block.....and hey presto....fast asleep after 5-10mins  :y
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 12 June 2008, 21:10:54
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Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?


yes they did a full set suposedly.  and it came out with nothin.

just got him down so off to chill out for an hour before bed. god i need a holiday. ;D
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Post by: Richie London on 12 June 2008, 21:16:00
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Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?


yes they did a full set suposedly.  and it came out with nothin.

just got him down so off to chill out for an hour before bed. god i need a holiday.

 i think you do as well marie, or a few days away from everything on your own.
 i just stop the kids coming round when im too stressed, i go on the missing list and nobody can contact me until im ready  :y :y
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Post by: Jimbob on 12 June 2008, 21:16:41
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Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?


yes they did a full set suposedly.  and it came out with nothin.

just got him down so off to chill out for an hour before bed. god i need a holiday. ;D
;)

They didnt do it all if it was while you wait....

Samples can be tested for certain things while you wait, but to identify an infection they need to go to a lab
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Post by: Richie London on 12 June 2008, 21:18:55
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Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?


yes they did a full set suposedly.  and it came out with nothin.

just got him down so off to chill out for an hour before bed. god i need a holiday. ;D
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They didnt do it all if it was while you wait....

Samples can be tested for certain things while you wait, but to identify an infection they need to go to a lab

i think it took 2 weeks when i had a culture test done.
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 June 2008, 23:35:11
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Marie -- have they done a culture from the lads wee ?  Just to see if he has a urinary infection ?


yes they did a full set suposedly.  and it came out with nothin.

just got him down so off to chill out for an hour before bed. god i need a holiday. ;D


How about a nice cruise?
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: miggy on 13 June 2008, 20:36:54
Hows the little one today Marie ???
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Post by: Marie on 13 June 2008, 20:39:01
hes good still peeing loads though.

i have given my boy some him time and he has made a lovely painting with me for daddys day. just hope jase likes it. i dont like buying stuff i think shane making something every year is more sentimental.

talkin about my wee boy can anyone guess where he is right now?
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Post by: Jimbob on 13 June 2008, 20:39:46
hopefully like my pair.....fast asleep (where theve been since 6:30)

 :D
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Post by: HolyCount on 13 June 2008, 20:43:04
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hes good still peeing loads though.

i have given my boy some him time and he has made a lovely painting with me for daddys day. just hope jase likes it. i dont like buying stuff i think shane making something every year is more sentimental.
talkin about my wee boy can anyone guess where he is right now?

110% agree  :y  TBH though -- MY best Father's Day Pressie is my little lad himself (18 months) and my daughter & son in law ( a lot older !!!!)-- couldn't ask for better offspring
Title: Re: poorly son!
Post by: Marie on 13 June 2008, 20:44:56
he anit in bed far from it! >:(

he was on the bl@@dy potty/loo again!!!!

i want him to go to bed so i can get some adult time with the hubby! ::)
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Post by: miggy on 13 June 2008, 20:46:17
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hes good still peeing loads though.

i have given my boy some him time and he has made a lovely painting with me for daddys day. just hope jase likes it. i dont like buying stuff i think shane making something every year is more sentimental.
talkin about my wee boy can anyone guess where he is right now?

110% agree  :y  TBH though -- MY best Father's Day Pressie is my little lad himself (18 months) and my daughter & son in law ( a lot older !!!!)-- couldn't ask for better offspring


Enjoy mate, they grow up too quick...my little princess is just 19.....still my little darling though