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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Andy H on 21 April 2014, 22:28:14

Title: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Andy H on 21 April 2014, 22:28:14
As above really. Having looked into what is available I really don't want to go and buy nine 1 litre bottles at £12 each. I also don't want to fill the box with something that has too many friction modifiers (resulting in clutch slip followed by scrap gearbox).

A bit of history
What we know as the AR25/AR35 is really the 4L30E which was used in all sorts of cars including BMWs, Isuzi and various 4 wheel drive vehicles including the Frontera.

The 4L30E  was an evolution of the 3 speed TH180/3L30 which was first built in the late 1960s.

The 3L30 would have used original Dexron which was made using sperm whale oil.

Dexron 2 was a mineral oil launched in 1972. Dexron 3 was launched in 1993. Dexron 4 was launched in 2006 (so after Omega production ended).

From what I can see on the internet the 4L30E doesn't cope well with oils newer than Dexron 3. GM used to licence manufacture of Dexron3 but that ended in 2006.
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 22:41:26
Dexron 3. Fuchs Titan 3000.

Cheapest from anywhere except a certain well known oil supplier.

Edit, comes in 5 litre cans.
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 April 2014, 22:54:08
Beg your pardon. Titan 4000 is dex 3
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: joff on 22 April 2014, 00:24:13
Beg your pardon. Titan 4000 is dex 3

Dexron 3 (H) :y what ever that is. We're can you buy this as have to do a change on the MV6 and Elite this year
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Steve B on 22 April 2014, 01:17:59
Dexron 3. Fuchs Titan 3000.

Cheapest from anywhere except a certain well known oil supplier.

Edit, comes in 5 litre cans.
:-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Andy B on 22 April 2014, 01:21:40
Dexron 3. Fuchs Titan 3000.

Cheapest from anywhere except a certain well known oil supplier.

Edit, comes in 5 litre cans.
:-\ :-\ :-\

For what ever reason  ??? ...... he has a downer with a certain supplier of oily stuff
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Andy H on 22 April 2014, 06:48:55
Dexron 3. Fuchs Titan 3000.

Cheapest from anywhere except a certain well known oil supplier.

Edit, comes in 5 litre cans.
:-\ :-\ :-\

For what ever reason  ??? ...... he has a downer with a certain supplier of oily stuff
Quote
Fuchs TITAN ATF 4000 Multifunctional Automatic Transmission Fluid - 1 Litre £7.44 inc VAT
 
Size          Price
1 Litre   £7.44 (£6.20 ex)
5 Litres   £29.99 (£24.99 ex)
So £60 for enough to get the job done once.

I might go with this but I have another lead to follow first - Texaco Texamatic 7045E. If reports from other sources are correct I should be able to get 20 litres for the same price. (so enough to do three box flushes)
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Bigron on 22 April 2014, 07:31:00
Triple QX ATF Dexron III 5 Litre Automatic Transmission Fluid
£18.89
From Car Parts 4 Less on Ebay.

Ron.
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 13:14:37
If cost is the only concern, in theory, Coma dex3 should meat the same Dexron standard.

But I wouldn't put that shite in my gear box if I was given it.
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 April 2014, 14:05:08
Btw. If your not aware. The filter, can be cleaned or washed out and re used. It's for larger lumps of debris such as thrust washer , the magnet in the sump is for the smaller particles and silt.

And an instant gasket works on the sumps. ( but i prefer a gasket as it seals better around the bolt holes IMO )
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Grrrrrr on 22 April 2014, 21:52:26
I've used these guys before with no issues. No affiliation. http://www.smithandallan.com/cat/transport-gear-and-transmission
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Andy H on 22 April 2014, 22:19:12
Btw. If your not aware. The filter, can be cleaned or washed out and re used. It's for larger lumps of debris such as thrust washer , the magnet in the sump is for the smaller particles and silt.

And an instant gasket works on the sumps. ( but i prefer a gasket as it seals better around the bolt holes IMO )
I bought gaskets and filter from JPAT last week. I wasn't going to bother with the filter but with the OOF discount it really wasn't worth faffing around trying to reuse the old one :y
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: Andy H on 22 April 2014, 22:26:44
I've used these guys before with no issues. No affiliation. http://www.smithandallan.com/cat/transport-gear-and-transmission
That looks like the kind of supplier I'm looking for  :y

Couriers are absolutely useless at finding my house though so first I am going to try the local Texaco station/village shop that is 100 yards away & see if the manager can do a deal on the Texamatic for me :y
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: biggriffin on 23 April 2014, 07:16:22
I use Shell donax in mine.  :)
Title: Re: Where to buy ATF for auto box fluid change?
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 April 2014, 11:44:58
Btw. If your not aware. The filter, can be cleaned or washed out and re used. It's for larger lumps of debris such as thrust washer , the magnet in the sump is for the smaller particles and silt.

And an instant gasket works on the sumps. ( but i prefer a gasket as it seals better around the bolt holes IMO )
I bought gaskets and filter from JPAT last week. I wasn't going to bother with the filter but with the OOF discount it really wasn't worth faffing around trying to reuse the old one :y

There's no faffing tbh. There will be bugger all in it. Or if there is, theres a major issue with the box most likely.

But as long your aware, happy days.  :y