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Title: Building Lift technology
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2014, 23:05:13
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27111923

Been talking about this proposed worlds fastest lift - 45 mph..

I used to work on the 16th floor of a building and fire drills were pretty scary things. What sort of person would voluntarily work in a building say 50 floors up??

On a different note, anyone remember paternoster lifts?  Loughborough Uni had one . I tried it "for a laugh". Might have been 1976. The worry was as it went over the top it went down upside down!! Shortly after it was taken out of service for ages as the motor /winding gear packed up and had been built into the building. Presumably the architect assumed it would last forever.   Are any still in use or have the HSSE stopped them?
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2014, 23:07:33
Damn. Wiki is your friend.

Nice schematic here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster

and some do survive!
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 April 2014, 23:23:47
What sort of person would voluntarily work in a building say 50 floors up??

I lived for a while on the 23rd floor of a block of flats in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam and I did occasionally wonder about the quality of the construction while drifting off to sleep.  ::)
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 April 2014, 23:30:52
There was a paternoster in the library at Essex University when I was there '89-92. That didn't invert if you went over the top, but you could do a handstand as it did so to confuse the freshers. ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Andy B on 23 April 2014, 01:02:12
You can see a lift like that in the back ground in one of the The Omen films ...... a couple of nuns getting in/out of one.  :y

I'd expect that HSE would have a hissy fit if they came across one these days.
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 April 2014, 08:12:34
There are some still running, we had one where I worked in Beeston, Nottingham, and it was only turned off around 2007.

They dont invert as you go over the top although there is a stonking great big gear wheel you suddenly see i front of you as you go over!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rKJXgHsycU
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 April 2014, 09:13:37
Ah yes I can see why HSE might get the willies over those!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 April 2014, 09:27:28
Ah yes I can see why HSE might get the willies over those!  ::)  ;D

Safer than lifts though in reality as so many bits tilt and hinge its pretty much impossible to trap anything.

Certainly in the 12 years I worked with one in the building the only issue was when some idiot builder put a ladder in one that was to long!
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Andy B on 23 April 2014, 09:38:10
..... the only issue was when some idiot builder put a ladder in one that was to long!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: tunnie on 23 April 2014, 13:07:37
Never heard of paternoster lifts, brilliant, I want a go  ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: aaronjb on 23 April 2014, 14:20:04
Been talking about this proposed worlds fastest lift - 45 mph..

I've been in the current fastest lift (referenced in that article - the lifts in the Taipei 101) and it's slightly unnerving how fast it rattles through the floors to get you to the observation floors.

No as unnerving as looking out of the windows on the 89th floor was, though.. ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Stemo on 23 April 2014, 14:52:48
Look at this one!

http://youtu.be/T49PsI6maMg

No thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: tunnie on 23 April 2014, 15:01:56
Look at this one!

http://youtu.be/T49PsI6maMg

No thanks. ;D

Should sell tickets to that, brilliant  :D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: r1 on 23 April 2014, 15:46:34
best lift for me was in alton towers hotel
got in doors closed,short time later doors open nothing strange about that you might say but there was no sensation of the lift moveing.
I was so determined to feel this lift move  so spent about 20 mins going up and down,the mrs disowned me[again] never felt it move think it must have been magic!
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 April 2014, 16:20:39
That old Paternoster setup looks no different to the one we had in Beeston!
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: omega3000 on 23 April 2014, 16:48:10
Guillotine springs to mind  :o
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 April 2014, 16:56:12
Guillotine springs to mind  :o

They dont though as the floor sections above you (the fixed bits) hinge up to stop that and so do the upper parts of the boxes you ride in (to protect on the way down).
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: YZ250 on 23 April 2014, 19:06:47
We have a large Paternoster storage system at work that goes up the equivalent of three stories. I've always wanted to lay in it and have a ride around, but the problem being it would need someone else to press the tray number to get me back out again.  ::) ;D
Goes a bit quicker than passenger ones though.  :y
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Keith ABS on 23 April 2014, 20:28:10
  The paternoster lift is still alive and working fine at Essex Uni, I work there on the electrical maintenance team.
Keith B
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Gaffers on 23 April 2014, 20:35:50
There was a paternoster in the library at Essex University when I was there '89-92. That didn't invert if you went over the top, but you could do a handstand as it did so to confuse the freshers. ;D

Had one in Sheffield Hallam uni 96-00, we used to do the same thing ;D ;D
Title: Re: Building Lift technology
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 April 2014, 23:14:41
  The paternoster lift is still alive and working fine at Essex Uni, I work there on the electrical maintenance team.
Keith B

Good to know. :y

I feel for you if you have to look after the electrics in the towers if they are still anything like they were when I was there. The lifts there were "interesting" too. Once had the doors open on the 12th floor, but lift was at the 13th. :o

Was a little the worse for wear at the time, but had the presence of mind not to try to get into it, fortunately. ;D