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Title: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:10:00
I recently moved into a council property in Looe, Cornwall  Unfortunately, about one third of the kitchen tiles were missing. I reported this to the repairs section.

The workman who was sent to do the repair informed my housemate that he could find a good match for the missing tiles. I think this poor man must be colour blind.

This is the result. :o :o :o :o :o

(http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/maisyhoneybunny/280420143421_zps18fd5616.jpg) (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/maisyhoneybunny/media/280420143421_zps18fd5616.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 April 2014, 19:11:43
Nice finish :y Got the join to match a shadow line perfectly  8)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: annihilator on 28 April 2014, 19:15:16
they match the grey worktop perfickly  :D and the grouting looks fine.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:20:22
The new ones are white though. :(

(http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/maisyhoneybunny/280420143428_zps22b8c430.jpg) (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/maisyhoneybunny/media/280420143428_zps22b8c430.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: kevinp58 on 28 April 2014, 19:21:21
whats wrong with them  ::) they are in a line aren't they ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:22:05
I think it looks silly.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:22:23
(http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/maisyhoneybunny/280420143426_zpse087fe32.jpg) (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/maisyhoneybunny/media/280420143426_zpse087fe32.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:30:29
Now I don't know what colour flooring to get.

Should I get grey or white? Maybe half grey, half white?





(http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/maisyhoneybunny/280420143430_zps75cd5284.jpg) (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/maisyhoneybunny/media/280420143430_zps75cd5284.jpg.html)



Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: kevinp58 on 28 April 2014, 19:37:53
You have darkish doors and light tiles so I would go for a light grey flooring how about grey tile effect vinyl  ??? there are some good quality ones now that look like real tiles when down.  :y I fit kitchens and always try to get the customer to go for light if they have dark doors or worktops.  :y and visa versa
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 19:42:38
You have darkish doors and light tiles so I would go for a light grey flooring how about grey tile effect vinyl  ??? there are some good quality ones now that look like real tiles when down.  :y I fit kitchens and always try to get the customer to go for light if they have dark doors or worktops.  :y and visa versa

Thanks, I think you're right. :y

I'm going to have to tile the whole kitchen now. I can't leave it like that. It looks ridiculous. >:(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: kevinp58 on 28 April 2014, 19:48:16
It does look a bit naff  ;D thought they could have atleast got some closer than those, but then again with council cuts it could have been a lot worse.  ::) >:(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 April 2014, 19:54:15
It's rented, and its tiled. Be happy. ;)

There's no way they will re tile the rest to match, and matching old tiles is a common problem.

Tile paint? I've never seen a tile paint worth the name though. It always looks shocking.

Live with it IMO.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 April 2014, 19:57:49
Two tone kitchens are the latest thing Kate!  :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 28 April 2014, 19:58:06
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: ronnyd on 28 April 2014, 20:06:27
Good fit, nice grouting, just leave the lights off. ::)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: powerslinky on 28 April 2014, 20:14:50
Put some nice dark sunglasses on Kate , they will all look the same then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

apart from the colour match  . . looks a pretty neat job to me though  :y :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 28 April 2014, 20:22:10
I live in social housing. I didn't like the look of our kitchen when we moved in so I ripped it all out. Re-tiled, put a new floor down and renewed all the units and worktops. When a man from the housing association came out for something else, he asked me if I wanted a job. ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Rods2 on 28 April 2014, 20:31:43
Check with cem to see if they will age in sunlight so they match.  ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: redelitev6 on 28 April 2014, 20:39:36
 :o You need to mention it to the council , you might get the whole lot done again , even suggest that you supply the tiles of your choice ? always worth a try !
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 28 April 2014, 20:45:31
I've emailed the council about it.

The tiling is great but if you had done the work, would you be proud of it?

I think it would have been better if he'd just hacked all the tiles of and said 'there you are luv, get yourself down to the wallpaper shop'. ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 28 April 2014, 20:56:39
Would not bother me that much if I was renting to be honest, as long as it was fit for purpose  :)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 April 2014, 21:02:55
It's shit workmanship because some bloody idiot clearly has no pride in the job and despite knowing they didn't match put them up anyway and took the money. Terrible job
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: omega3000 on 28 April 2014, 21:45:25
You mite start a new trend there  ;D I quite like it  ::)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: bigegg on 28 April 2014, 22:51:51
I live in social housing. I didn't like the look of our kitchen when we moved in so I ripped it all out. Re-tiled, put a new floor down and renewed all the units and worktops. When a man from the housing association came out for something else, he asked me if I wanted a job. ;D

he did notice you're Scouse, didn't he?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Steve B on 29 April 2014, 00:54:45
This thread made me get the camera out.......

Im also busy sticking B&Q junk to the walls in the kitchen  ;D ;D
No more putting silicone between the worktop and the tiles  :y I love this bit of plastic.......

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/tile1.JPG)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/tile2.JPG)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Vamps on 29 April 2014, 00:59:58
This thread made me get the camera out.......

Im also busy sticking B&Q junk to the walls in the kitchen  ;D ;D
No more putting silicone between the worktop and the tiles  :y I love this bit of plastic.......

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/tile1.JPG)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/tile2.JPG)

I have something like that around the bath and shower tray, shrink / dry with age but easily cleaned with a tooth brush and a bit of bleach....... :y :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Steve B on 29 April 2014, 01:10:25
great stuff....silicone goes mouldy and ages and looks rubbish ,,,, ive put the bigger one round the bath too  :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 April 2014, 09:47:17
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)

Sorry but I believe if you pay rent then why should you get a sub standard service, if a job is to be done then do it properly, the council create work to use up government funds so why not use them to keep up the condition of the properties they own.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 April 2014, 09:53:28
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)

Sorry but I believe if you pay rent then why should you get a sub standard service, if a job is to be done then do it properly, the council create work to use up government funds so why not use them to keep up the condition of the properties they own.

Because, there's a good chance the correct tiles aren't available. ::)


(There is also a good chance he bought the wrong ones and slapped them on anyway, but I know matching old tiles can be a pita)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 April 2014, 10:16:42
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)

Sorry but I believe if you pay rent then why should you get a sub standard service, if a job is to be done then do it properly, the council create work to use up government funds so why not use them to keep up the condition of the properties they own.

I was amused by this at first, but Mr Skrunts is right.  You pay your rent and for that expect a certain level of service in return, like any other business transaction.  ::)

It wouldn't have been a much bigger job to have knocked all the tiles off and redo the lot. It's a bodge and shows a level of disregard from the council/housing association towards their customers!  :(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: biggriffin on 29 April 2014, 10:35:07
Hard for me to say. But i agree with tunnie on this, if your not happy go to the local tile warehouse, buy some tiles and do it your self.

if something breaks in my house i,have to repair it, i don't have the luxury of phoneing the "housing association" 

Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 April 2014, 11:23:32
If you hired a car and it had a problem you wouldn't fix it yourself or pay for repairs would you?  ::)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 11:33:24
I am fairly sure the council will send someone round to check the work. Despite what people think of rented properties, most social landlords pride themselves on the properties they let and, these days, the rents are comparable to the private sector (up here, anyway).
It's (some) private landlords that don't seem to care.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Entwood on 29 April 2014, 12:01:37
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)

Sorry but I believe if you pay rent then why should you get a sub standard service, if a job is to be done then do it properly, the council create work to use up government funds so why not use them to keep up the condition of the properties they own.

I was amused by this at first, but Mr Skrunts is right.  You pay your rent and for that expect a certain level of service in return, like any other business transaction.  ::)

It wouldn't have been a much bigger job to have knocked all the tiles off and redo the lot. It's a bodge and shows a level of disregard from the council/housing association towards their customers!  :(

[devil mode ON]

or does it show an understanding of the requirements of those who provide the money to do the work ??  ie taxpayers ??

Council customer .... would that be the taxpayer or the claimant ??

[devil mode OFF]

 ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 12:32:21
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 12:41:36
Just to add to that, I had a quick look at the twenty houses that are local to me in our road. Five are bought, six have families on benefits and the remaining nine have working families. So, despite the perceived 'benefit culture' people on benefits are actually in the minority.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 April 2014, 12:49:38
I'm with Mark's DTM on this. Someone has paid the guy to do the job. He's turned up, must have realised he's supplied the wrong tiles and thought "f**k it", taken the money and ran. I wouldn't accept that job and, I suspect, neither would the landlord. He's hoping he'll be long gone before there's any comeback.

He offered to find and fit matching tiles. He could have explained from the outset that they might not match, or insisted that he needs to replace the existing tiles to do a satisfactory job, but he chose to source matching tiles. Having failed to do what he offered, he expects to take the money and leave a shoddy job. >:(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: brendan1983 on 29 April 2014, 13:11:31
Or...   he was instructed by the landlord to just fit whatever he could find?

On another note if the house was like that when you moved in why did you? Or why wasn't it agreed before you moved/signed contracts that it would all be done?
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 April 2014, 14:21:58
As a landlord myself I'm finding this discussion interesting in that some folks seem to think that if a tenant is on benefits then it's reasonable for them to accept a lower level of service. 

There's a word for that...... apartheid! :o
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: YZ250 on 29 April 2014, 15:02:52
Those saying that this is ok are joking right?  ::) ;D
Admitting that he couldn't match the tiles would have been preferable, then a decision could have been made of where to go from there.  :y

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2014, 15:42:28
finding it interesting all posts on 'level of service' and 'standard' of service.

Forgetting the colour for a minute, is it a bad job? Is it dangerous, are the tiles about to fall off? Does it look like they were put up by Clarkson after a few beers with just a hammer saying 'how hard can it be'?

Simple answer is no. The actual fitting of them is fine. (at least shown in the photos)

The colour does not match, but as the council is a landlord for probably 100,000s+, I suspect they bulk buy products to save a couple of quid. So I suspect they did the best they could, with the tiles they had. The house I (well FatherT paid for) while at Uni had all kinds of tiles, some painted with paint coming off, this was a private landlord.  :o

If you want the kitchen to look the way you want to, then do it yourself. As I personally don't see the difference between this and someone saying I don't like them all brown, change them to blue. Especially on a council funded house were it's zero cost to you.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: slowboy on 29 April 2014, 15:56:22
make a phone call and find out the response :y :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 16:01:44
....

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg.html)

Ah! A Golf Harlequin  :y  :y  :y  :y http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/03/volkswagen-golf-harlequin-vws-strangest-idea/
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:03:42
finding it interesting all posts on 'level of service' and 'standard' of service.

Forgetting the colour for a minute, is it a bad job? Is it dangerous, are the tiles about to fall off? Does it look like they were put up by Clarkson after a few beers with just a hammer saying 'how hard can it be'?

Simple answer is no. The actual fitting of them is fine. (at least shown in the photos)

The colour does not match, but as the council is a landlord for probably 100,000s+, I suspect they bulk buy products to save a couple of quid. So I suspect they did the best they could, with the tiles they had. The house I (well FatherT paid for) while at Uni had all kinds of tiles, some painted with paint coming off, this was a private landlord.  :o

If you want the kitchen to look the way you want to, then do it yourself. As I personally don't see the difference between this and someone saying I don't like them all brown, change them to blue. Especially on a council funded house were it's zero cost to you.
You suspect they bulk buy and you suspect they did the best they could. That's a lot of suspecting. Our landlord gets a man out and, if he doesn't have it on his van he goes to B&Q or the local plumbers merchant or wherever they have an account.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2014, 16:08:02
....

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg.html)

Ah! A Golf Harlequin  :y  :y  :y  :y http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/03/volkswagen-golf-harlequin-vws-strangest-idea/

Looks like Polo to me  :)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:09:49
....

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg.html)

Ah! A Golf Harlequin  :y  :y  :y  :y http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/03/volkswagen-golf-harlequin-vws-strangest-idea/

Looks like Polo to me  :)
No. A polo is a small, round sweetie. ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2014, 16:10:09
finding it interesting all posts on 'level of service' and 'standard' of service.

Forgetting the colour for a minute, is it a bad job? Is it dangerous, are the tiles about to fall off? Does it look like they were put up by Clarkson after a few beers with just a hammer saying 'how hard can it be'?

Simple answer is no. The actual fitting of them is fine. (at least shown in the photos)

The colour does not match, but as the council is a landlord for probably 100,000s+, I suspect they bulk buy products to save a couple of quid. So I suspect they did the best they could, with the tiles they had. The house I (well FatherT paid for) while at Uni had all kinds of tiles, some painted with paint coming off, this was a private landlord.  :o

If you want the kitchen to look the way you want to, then do it yourself. As I personally don't see the difference between this and someone saying I don't like them all brown, change them to blue. Especially on a council funded house were it's zero cost to you.
You suspect they bulk buy and you suspect they did the best they could. That's a lot of suspecting. Our landlord gets a man out and, if he doesn't have it on his van he goes to B&Q or the local plumbers merchant or wherever they have an account.

Looking at pictures, job looks fine on cut ect, so best they could there.

Bulk? Well yup, knew a few people from college days who have council houses. Builders just get what ever the council gives them, as they get it at bulk/discount.

That said, would not surprise me if others paid tillers to go to B&Q and pay full retail prices, might explain why they are broke  ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:16:31
Our housing association employs hundreds of tradesmen but they drive company vans and stick to company rules. Quite often a man in a suit comes before the job is done to discuss it with you or (mostly) afterwards to inspect the job. Tenants sit in on board meetings and have their say on the running of the association and bring up any concerns from tenants local to them. They would not attempt to do a job like that, knowing full well that they wouldn't get away with it.
As for student accommodation, landlords know they'll wreck it anyway. ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: brendan1983 on 29 April 2014, 16:24:45
If you're not happy why not just rent somewhere else privately or buy somewhere??
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:26:50
If you're not happy why not just rent somewhere else privately or buy somewhere??
What a stupid statement  ;D ;D ;D
"You've done a piss poor job on my tiling so I'm off to buy a house"  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 16:33:20
....

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


 ....

Ah! A Golf Harlequin  :y  :y  :y  :y http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/03/volkswagen-golf-harlequin-vws-strangest-idea/

Looks like Polo to me  :)

Polo ... Golf .... nearly the same. And the article mentions both  ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 16:37:43
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: aaronjb on 29 April 2014, 16:39:33
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)

Something like this for you, Andy? http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41300071.html ;) ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:40:38
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)
Well..you can't! Beans in Bury for you mate  :P
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 16:42:18
Poor Kate. She only asked about her tiles and now look what she's done.

Always been a troublemaker, that one.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: powerslinky on 29 April 2014, 17:19:32
The workmanship looks fine to me, good spacing on the tiles, neat cut work around the plugs. No poor workmanship there in my opinion  :y

Colour? Well yes that does not match, but as others have said it's a council property. You rent it from the council? It's their house  ;)

Sorry but I believe if you pay rent then why should you get a sub standard service, if a job is to be done then do it properly, the council create work to use up government funds so why not use them to keep up the condition of the properties they own.

I was amused by this at first, but Mr Skrunts is right.  You pay your rent and for that expect a certain level of service in return, like any other business transaction.  ::)

It wouldn't have been a much bigger job to have knocked all the tiles off and redo the lot. It's a bodge and shows a level of disregard from the council/housing association towards their customers! :(

Too right Tigger . .  total disregard  >:(    I work in social housing repair & maintenance  & the days of having pride in the job you do have long gone . The reason being that you can only do what the "management" ,in this case , the local authority will let you do . Times for jobs has been cut to the bone, rates for the jobs have been cut to the bone ,we are made to use inferior & sometimes even the incorrect materials .There is a phrase that is used in local authority & housing association letting departments & that is  "a lettable standard".
In my area that standard is diabolicaly low . I myself always try to do the best of what is possible with what you have to work with & time allowed . Sometimes I am completely embarrassed by what the authority serveyors have requested we do ,some  are totally clueless.

With Kate's tiling , I would not blame the guy who did the work , he's made a fair job of what he has been permitted /told to use & in the time he was allocated  IMO. The problem lies with the people who instruct them to do it like that .

Agreed that if you  had taken on a tradesman yourself & were expected to pay for it ,you would not be satisfied with a complete mismatch of tile colour . But tiles are always difficult to match once they have been up for more than a year or two . Even plain white tiles have "shade"  issues when trying to match up with existing .

Hope this sheds a bit of light on the unfortunate tradespeople that work in this field, most of the time it's really not their fault  ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 17:46:44
String the culprit up by his balls, Kate...... :-* :-* :-* ;D ;D

I've seen worse and I've seen better. :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 17:59:55
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2014, 18:02:12
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D

That is the price per week around most of London  :D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 18:12:52
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D
Yes..but, come on....who wouldn't want to live in Solihull? Worth twice that rent I should think.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 18:14:35
I suppose I can see this from both sides, but.......Kate only asked about her tiles and I thought some of the comments were out of order. Live and let live.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2014, 18:15:36
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D
Yes..but, come on....who wouldn't want to live in Solihull? Worth twice that rent I should think.

You aint wrong  :o

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:17:07
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)
Well..you can't! Beans in Bury for you mate  :P

Beanz are made in Pie Eating Land aka Wigan  ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 18:20:23
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)
Well..you can't! Beans in Bury for you mate  :P

Beanz are made in Pie Eating Land aka Wigan  ;)
Pie and beanz....mmmmm....I could just eat that. 

Whatever happened to proper Hollands pies? Out the chippy? Lovely....gravy all down me chin off the steak and kidney and meat jelly all down me chin off the meat one.
I WANT ONE! NOW!  :'(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:24:22
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)

Something like this for you, Andy? http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41300071.html ;) ;D

Yes please! I could put a couple of hundred thousand deposit down from the sale of mine ..... not sure where the other £1.2million would come from though  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:26:46
....

Whatever happened to proper Hollands pies? Out the chippy? Lovely....gravy all down me chin off the steak and kidney and meat jelly all down me chin off the meat one.
I WANT ONE! NOW!  :'(

You do still get Holland's pies & pudding in local chippies, but they're not as good as they used to be. Steak & kidney puddings tend to be on the gristley side  ???
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: CaptainZok on 29 April 2014, 18:33:02
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Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 18:40:15
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D

That is the price per week around most of London  :D

Planet London is different. Your former 'shag pad' located in Kensington would probably cost a fortune to rent, Mr Tunnie.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:42:34
I like it Captain .... are you one of the yoofs on the roof or the thug behind the wheel?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 18:44:07
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.


In 1984 we moved into a flat in Solihull. The flat was owned by a private landlord......Norwich Union if memory serves.

It cost £69 a month to rent this one bed flat in 1984. The rent had risen to £119 a month by the time we left in 1990.

I hear it's about £550 a month now.  :D :D :D

Norwich Union were responsible for any repairs, but most of the time they couldn't be arsed and we had to constantly chase them up........Lazy bastards. ;D ;D
Yes..but, come on....who wouldn't want to live in Solihull? Worth twice that rent I should think.

You aint wrong  :o

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html)


St Bernards road, I know it well. As a child I lived only half a mile away. :y :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: aaronjb on 29 April 2014, 18:46:54
You aint wrong  :o

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-42104032.html)

Oh yes, some parts of Solihull are seriously expensive (basically the further you get from Birmingham ... ;D ) and house prices are pretty much in line with - and in some places more expensive - than you'd pay in your area or me in mine (I think ours are pretty similar)..

Must admit, though, having spent quite a bit of time there over the last couple of years, I could happily live in some of the nicer parts or out toward Knowle.  I'd need a footballers salary, though :o (probably because there are a few of those living around there!)

Yes please! I could put a couple of hundred thousand deposit down from the sale of mine ..... not sure where the other £1.2million would come from though  ;D ;D ;D

Just have a rummage down the back of Opti's sofa ;)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: aaronjb on 29 April 2014, 18:48:50
St Bernards road, I know it well. As a child I lived only half a mile away. :y :y

Amy's (my OHs) family are from just past Olton station, not too far from there. Quite a difference in prices once you go past the railway lines, though!
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: CaptainZok on 29 April 2014, 18:50:57
I like it Captain .... are you one of the yoofs on the roof or the thug behind the wheel?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Clocked it a while ago in the local chippy. Show it around Kitt Green you might find a few of them. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:51:47
....

Just have a rummage down the back of Opti's sofa ;)

That should do it.  :y :y ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2014, 18:52:19
I like it Captain .... are you one of the yoofs on the roof or the thug behind the wheel?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Clocked it a while ago in the local chippy. Show it around Kitt Green you might find a few of them. ;D ;D

I'm sure I would!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: kevinp58 on 29 April 2014, 18:54:07
Those saying that this is ok are joking right?  ::) ;D
Admitting that he couldn't match the tiles would have been preferable, then a decision could have been made of where to go from there.  :y

Think yourself lucky, the tiler used to work in a Body Shop.  ::) ::)


(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac142/Alan-Hearn/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/Alan-Hearn/media/Random%20Pics/905421d2-3cf8-4de0-a1c8-8e07f7e7733d_zps21b1c302.jpg.html)







I remember those.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 19:42:28
St Bernards road, I know it well. As a child I lived only half a mile away. :y :y

Amy's (my OHs) family are from just past Olton station, not too far from there. Quite a difference in prices once you go past the railway lines, though!

Monastary Drive for us, Aaron. The Opti family lived there for 8 years. :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 29 April 2014, 21:24:16
I'm not sure what to say about this now. The tiles were missing before I moved in, I wasn't asking the council to just change the colour as I felt like a change or anything like that.

I think the important point is that the tiling job made me feel like a right scum bag. I'm so poor and pathetic that I have to live in this council house or be homeless. I'm not even worthy of a few matching tiles.

If the Government brought in a voluntary euthanasia scheme for people on benefits I'd be first in the queue, believe me.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 21:30:52
I'm not sure what to say about this now. The tiles were missing before I moved in, I wasn't asking the council to just change the colour as I felt like a change or anything like that.

I think the important point is that the tiling job made me feel like a right scum bag. I'm so poor and pathetic that I have to live in this council house or be homeless. I'm not even worthy of a few matching tiles.

If the Government brought in a voluntary euthanasia scheme for people on benefits I'd be first in the queue, believe me.
Take no notice of them, pet, they've nowt better to worry about. :-*
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 21:35:57
And one more thing, Kate my love, I remember well you wading into a thief in London and pushing him off his bike. You got a good hiding for your trouble. Not many of the good, house-buying folk of the community would do that girl.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: redelitev6 on 29 April 2014, 21:55:43
I'm not sure what to say about this now. The tiles were missing before I moved in, I wasn't asking the council to just change the colour as I felt like a change or anything like that.

I think the important point is that the tiling job made me feel like a right scum bag. I'm so poor and pathetic that I have to live in this council house or be homeless. I'm not even worthy of a few matching tiles.

If the Government brought in a voluntary euthanasia scheme for people on benefits I'd be first in the queue, believe me.
You have every right to expect the house to be of a decent standard , the landlords should have inspected the property and made sure it was up to standard , sadly most of them know people are desperate for somewhere to live and will take a "like it or lump it " attitude  :( 
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 29 April 2014, 21:59:05
Hey thanks I feel much better now. :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Rods2 on 29 April 2014, 22:06:47
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.

It is the same down south. My daughter also pays similar rent on a part private / housing association estate she lives on with houses that have been bought as buy to let cost about £50 more per month than she is paying.

Kate don't be so hard on yourself, we have seen from the threads on here where you have been exploring different career options and that you have being trying really hard to get a job. :y :y :y

Just a thought on that front, where you live in a tourist area, so there are going to be seasonal jobs available, have you got an up-to-date food and hygiene certificate and is it something you could do as a retraining course now, so you are one step ahead of many other people come the summer?
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 April 2014, 22:21:27
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.

It is the same down south. My daughter also pays similar rent on a part private / housing association estate she lives on with houses that have been bought as buy to let cost about £50 more per month than she is paying.

Kate don't be so hard on yourself, we have seen from the threads on here where you have been exploring different career options and that you have being trying really hard to get a job. :y :y :y

Just a thought on that front, where you live in a tourist area, so there are going to be seasonal jobs available, have you got an up-to-date food and hygiene certificate and is it something you could do as a retraining course now, so you are one step ahead of many other people come the summer?


I concur with Mr Rods.

Don't beat yourself up so much, Kate. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Vamps on 29 April 2014, 22:42:32
There seems to be a level of misunderstanding from some folk here. Those of us who don't live in high rent areas i.e. London or the Home Counties, pay a similar rent for a social landlord as is paid by the private sector. There is hardly any subsidy. If someone is on benefits, then the taxpayer subsidises them whether they are in private or social housing.
In 2000 the government put in place a rent escalator so as to bring both rents into line. Our rent has increased by over 5% each year since (in fact nearly 7% this year).
We also pay our council tax, just like anyone else, and my wife probably pays more in income tax and nat ins than a lot of people earn.
As for repairs, the social landlord(ours is one of the largest in the country) have to abide by a charter, the same one that covers right to buy and so on. It is a choice some people make. Pay rent for a place you will never own and get all the repairs/maintenance done, or buy and do your own repairs.

Kate is entitled to expect a reasonable level of repair/maintenance and, should she choose to, can kick up a fuss about such things.


Now then, park your high horses and try to realise that not everyone is as fortunate as you think you are.

It is the same down south. My daughter also pays similar rent on a part private / housing association estate she lives on with houses that have been bought as buy to let cost about £50 more per month than she is paying.

Kate don't be so hard on yourself, we have seen from the threads on here where you have been exploring different career options and that you have being trying really hard to get a job. :y :y :y

Just a thought on that front, where you live in a tourist area, so there are going to be seasonal jobs available, have you got an up-to-date food and hygiene certificate and is it something you could do as a retraining course now, so you are one step ahead of many other people come the summer?


I concur with Mr Rods.

Don't beat yourself up so much, Kate. :-* :-* :-* :-*

And me Kate, we know............. ;) ;) :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 April 2014, 03:10:31
Next time kate, borrow a hammer and chisel and knock the rest of the tiles of the wall before you report it for a repair. Then all tiles fitted will be matching colour. :y   
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Andy B on 30 April 2014, 07:36:52
How about a bathroom suite? Would it be reasonable to expect a complete new suite because the landlord/council/tradesman couldn't match the original colour of a single item?  ::)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: brendan1983 on 30 April 2014, 07:47:48
If you're not happy why not just rent somewhere else privately or buy somewhere??
What a stupid statement  ;D ;D ;D
"You've done a piss poor job on my tiling so I'm off to buy a house"  ;D ;D

What I meant was...  if you rent somewhere then you're pretty much stuck with it, if you buy somewhere then you can do and change what you want.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tunnie on 30 April 2014, 08:40:12
If you're not happy why not just rent somewhere else privately or buy somewhere??
What a stupid statement  ;D ;D ;D
"You've done a piss poor job on my tiling so I'm off to buy a house"  ;D ;D

What I meant was...  if you rent somewhere then you're pretty much stuck with it, if you buy somewhere then you can do and change what you want.

My thoughts too  :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: biggriffin on 30 April 2014, 08:52:10
It'd be nice to move to Looe ... sea, sand, nice views etc. I'd have to sell my house, buy another & then get another job that pays enough to buy a house in Looe!  ::) ::)
if you lived in "social housing" and didn't like were you lived,you could ask for a transfer to sunny Cornwall. ???
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Olympia5776 on 30 April 2014, 09:17:44
I've just noticed this thread and haven't read all the posts on it but I have to say to Kate that I understand her disappointment . All that effort in tiling the reminder of the wall ,grouting it and all to a good standard too , but it is all destroyed by the total lack of colour match .
You have a lovely kitchen and this just spoils the effect and would upset me too.
I don'y know the reasons behind the choice but if it was anything other than the originals being unavailable then it's a great shame .
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Stemo on 30 April 2014, 10:43:53
I'm saying no more, you'll be sorry to hear. There are obviously some people who are immovable in their views and others who have never had to live in the real world.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 30 April 2014, 10:45:45
Thanks for the supportive comments. It means a lot. :y

I'm going to get some cheap tiles and do it myself. I've just finished tiling the bathroom with white tiles. They were £4.95 from B&Q for a box of 44. I'm not the best tiler but at least all the tiles will match.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: tigers_gonads on 30 April 2014, 12:05:31
Not read the full thread but I think I get the jist of it

A few things to think about  ;)

You live in a state subsidised council house (so do I  :))

How old was the original tiles and are they still made because tile manufactures change the range pretty often.

Who pays the man from the council to spend hours or indeed days looking for tiles that are a perfect match. You do through your council tax so are we all happy to chip in so that mr council worker can spend time looking ?

Sorry Kate, I think you are expecting too much here  :)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Elite Pete on 30 April 2014, 15:11:21
I rent from a private landlord and the rent takes a huge portion of the minimum wage I get. The cottage was referbished in 1980 and it has a terrible pampas green toilet and sink but the shower which has just been fitted to replace the leaking bath (leaked 4 years ago) is white. The tiling and floor covering was left for me to do plus I replaced a large section of the dining room ceiling due to a hole and bulge which has been there since the first leak 4 years ago. I would love an affordable council house where the landlord can be held accountable but I don't meet their criteria, if I ask for too much here I would be given my 2 months notice to quit  :'(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: taitinson on 30 April 2014, 15:31:52
Having read all the post's i have to agree with all of STEMO's posts.......... :o :o
You can but ask the landlord to see if a solution can be found, worst they can say is no.
Keep looking and i'm sure the job front will pick up soon, as summer is around the corner, place will be full of emmets before you know it :y :y
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 30 April 2014, 16:15:09
The worst thing is that they have the tiles to match but the warehouse guy couldn't be bothered to look. >:(
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 April 2014, 17:31:10
Do you know the manufacturer of the tiles?

I needed some tiles to match our bathroom after an alteration. At the time it was 7 or 8 years old and I didn't hold out much hope. I contacted the Spanish manufacturer of the tiles directly and they couldn't have been more helpful. They explained that it was an old design but that they had the tiles I needed in stock. They advised me who the local stockist was and arranged to have them shipped there for my collection. I was amazed. I had pretty much resigned myself to tiling the whole lot again.
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: Kate on 30 April 2014, 18:27:54
The workman said the tiles were from their stores. I'm going to ask them to do the job properly.

This is from the first paragraph of the Cornwall Housing repairs page.

We aim to provide the best repairs service in the country and we have a comprehensive repairs policy that offers very high standards of repairs and services to tenants.

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/housing/council-housing/repairs-maintenance-and-improvements/mid-cornwall-tenants-repairs/responsive-repairs/ (http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/housing/council-housing/repairs-maintenance-and-improvements/mid-cornwall-tenants-repairs/responsive-repairs/)
Title: Re: Poor Workmanship
Post by: kevinp58 on 30 April 2014, 19:01:37
Thanks for the supportive comments. It means a lot. :y

I'm going to get some cheap tiles and do it myself. I've just finished tiling the bathroom with white tiles. They were £4.95 from B&Q for a box of 44. I'm not the best tiler but at least all the tiles will match.







Just get a few patterned ones to break it up.  :y :y