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Title: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 20 May 2014, 15:00:11
Sadly the sump plug has stripped again (see post from 2011), ( sump drain pump had packed up, so have done the last few changes the old fashioned way.) I guess it will be helicoil next, I can get a kit that size for £13. :'(
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: biggriffin on 20 May 2014, 15:02:53
Get 2nd hand sump.
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 20 May 2014, 15:10:35
Get 2nd hand sump.

Changing sump not an easy option on a TD. Plus the thread is just as likely to have gone or been weakened.:y
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Seth on 20 May 2014, 15:14:36
Sadly the sump plug has stripped again (see post from 2011), ( sump drain pump had packed up, so have done the last few changes the old fashioned way.) I guess it will be helicoil next, I can get a kit that size for £13. :'(

So long as it ain't the actual cast boss that isn't split ... as (once upon a time) happened to moi >:(

TD sumps cannot be removed without dropping-off the front subframe. Sorry Shack ... :'(
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 20 May 2014, 19:59:11
Sadly the sump plug has stripped again (see post from 2011), ( sump drain pump had packed up, so have done the last few changes the old fashioned way.) I guess it will be helicoil next, I can get a kit that size for £13. :'(

So long as it ain't the actual cast boss that isn't split ... as (once upon a time) happened to moi >:(

TD sumps cannot be removed without dropping-off the front subframe.
Sorry Shack ... :'(

...as I learnt from your post in 2011 Byron! Hence opting for helicoil. :(
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: TheBoy on 20 May 2014, 20:34:56
I helicoiled mine. BMW did make the sump from monkey metal, replacement will just strip.


When I said I helicoiled it, more accurately, that DTM fella did it for me :P
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Agemo on 20 May 2014, 20:36:56
I Helicoiled mine a couple of years back, did the job a treat. It was a doddle to do, and better than the original. As said, swapping sumps is a Pig on the TD. I bought a cheapo set off ebay, can't remember how much but it was cheap and good.
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Omegatoy on 20 May 2014, 20:38:14
when i had this I bought a p******t :'( I think sump plug which was just a nice size up from the original, tapped it out and never had any more problems,cant remember the size now but it was just right :y
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 21 May 2014, 09:36:13
when i had this I bought a p******t :'( I think sump plug which was just a nice size up from the original, tapped it out and never had any more problems,cant remember the size now but it was just right :y

Exactly what I did 3 years ago, and have only done 20k since, so 6 or 7 oil changes, only about 4 via the sump plug, and having had it strip once I was very light handed. I think the sump is made of chocolate!
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Keith ABS on 21 May 2014, 12:54:17
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2014, 13:03:25
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B

Ha ha, ........oh MR The Boy I am sure had an interesting experience with one of those types of device pmsl
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: TheBoy on 21 May 2014, 19:08:59
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B

Ha ha, ........oh MR The Boy I am sure had an interesting experience with one of those types of device pmsl
I blame the fitter :P
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: TheBoy on 21 May 2014, 19:12:41
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B
Check how low they hang, as mustn't be lower than the ribs/web of the sump each side of the drain plug...

...if it is lower, the landing after an 80mph launch does result in a catastrophic oil leak...


I never did find the drain plug/tap following this incident, but the helicoil it was screwed into survived without any damage. Threw in a spark plug, popped in some oil, drove home (slowly!), went back to a traditional drain plug.

Helicoil sump plug is the way forward on these engines :y
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 21 May 2014, 21:22:28
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B
Check how low they hang, as mustn't be lower than the ribs/web of the sump each side of the drain plug...

...if it is lower, the landing after an 80mph launch does result in a catastrophic oil leak...


I never did find the drain plug/tap following this incident, but the helicoil it was screwed into survived without any damage. Threw in a spark plug, popped in some oil, drove home (slowly!), went back to a traditional drain plug.

Helicoil sump plug is the way forward on these engines :y

 :y :y :y
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: TheBoy on 21 May 2014, 21:37:16
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B
Check how low they hang, as mustn't be lower than the ribs/web of the sump each side of the drain plug...

...if it is lower, the landing after an 80mph launch does result in a catastrophic oil leak...


I never did find the drain plug/tap following this incident, but the helicoil it was screwed into survived without any damage. Threw in a spark plug, popped in some oil, drove home (slowly!), went back to a traditional drain plug.

Helicoil sump plug is the way forward on these engines :y
Maybe Marks DTM can remember how long the easy drain/tap thingie lasted. I don't think I managed a week with it  :'(
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: TheBoy on 21 May 2014, 21:39:33
MR The Boy I am sure had an interesting experience with one of those types of device pmsl
Oi, I'm sure that was your response when it happened, and I called you in my hour of need when it happened  >:(


Bastids.
Title: Re: Stripped sump plug on TD
Post by: Shackeng on 21 May 2014, 21:48:44
Try fiting a Sahlbus oil drain valve afterwards, M14 x 1.5 is the thread size. Mine cost 37 quid delivered. Makes oil changes a lot easier
Keith B
Check how low they hang, as mustn't be lower than the ribs/web of the sump each side of the drain plug...

...if it is lower, the landing after an 80mph launch does result in a catastrophic oil leak...


I never did find the drain plug/tap following this incident, but the helicoil it was screwed into survived without any damage. Threw in a spark plug, popped in some oil, drove home (slowly!), went back to a traditional drain plug.

Helicoil sump plug is the way forward on these engines :y
Maybe Marks DTM can remember how long the easy drain/tap thingie lasted. I don't think I managed a week with it  :'(

I took one off the steel sump on a Mk1 Consul in a rally. Managed to stop in time, and limped home with a temporary wooden bung. Took the sump off and straightened the boss, and it was as good as new. ::)