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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: LJay on 13 June 2008, 14:01:44
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Just looked out of the window to find a man in a police like uniform eyeing up the tax disc on my car! Went out to investigate and he was sitting in a DVLA wheel clamping van on the phone! He then got out to recheck my tax whilst completely ignoring my questions!
I then stood in front of him and demanded to know what he was doing. He said that he had been sent to clamp my car as it had been shown on a mobile camera as untaxed!
He then said that he had spoken to his boss and was unable to clamp as it is tax exempt due to disability. And is displaying a valid tax disc!
Any one heard of any thing like this before?
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Sounds like you have totally genuine reasons - but for those who dodge tax, I think it's a great idea...
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To add the car was driven home with out of date tax a month ago due to a misunderstanding, but nothing we could do about it.
The car has been on the driveway ever since, with the exception of 2 x 200 yard test drives to check functionality after work on it, but no cameras in the road (afaik)
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Not questioning the idea think its fantastic!
Just never heard of them clamping for no tax.
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well the advert is on the telly every other night
"we have the power to clamp or even crush your car"
With a bit of luck no more will be heard
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Was it declared SORN whilst on the drive.........
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To add the car was driven home with out of date tax a month ago due to a misunderstanding, but nothing we could do about it.
The car has been on the driveway ever since, with the exception of 2 x 200 yard test drives to check functionality after work on it, but no cameras in the road (afaik)
Well they can't clamp in on your drive.
Even if a disabled exemption it is still 'taxed' it is the fee that is waived, so don't know what the guy was on about.
Should be out catching the real untaxed and uninsured cars >:(
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Was it declared SORN whilst on the drive.........
Was declared Sorn the day after we got it,
never got a confirmation letter though.
Spoke to DVLA about that yesterday who said it would have gone to the previous address
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It only got its tax disk on Wednesday, but was on the drive and virtually unused until then.
Swapped Insurance, and taxed it this week
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It was declared SORN when on the drive. Its on the road now though!
It was his attitude that cheesed me off! One finger on my pride and joy and who knows!
>:( >:( >:(
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Not happy about Tax or SORN options....Don't see why there isn't a third category or at least a permitted period between Taxed and needing SORN. My tax has run out (end of May) but I can't get the new one until I get through the MOT for which work is being done. Should I have a SORN even though I intend getting it back on the road as fast as possible?
Do agree that on the road must be taxed, but they seem to be taking the TV License route of if we have your address you must have a license, then check if you have a tellie once it gets to court.
Going SORN makes it that bit more complex when you want to re-tax.
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Not happy about Tax or SORN options....Don't see why there isn't a third category or at least a permitted period between Taxed and needing SORN. My tax has run out (end of May) but I can't get the new one until I get through the MOT for which work is being done. Should I have a SORN even though I intend getting it back on the road as fast as possible?
Do agree that on the road must be taxed, but they seem to be taking the TV License route of if we have your address you must have a license, then check if you have a tellie once it gets to court.
Going SORN makes it that bit more complex when you want to re-tax.
You need to SORN it.........when you then re-tax it the sorn automatically gets deleted, no extra difficulty
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Should be the same to retax?
to Sorn - 1 minute on line
to Unsorn - Buy tax as normal
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Not happy about Tax or SORN options....Don't see why there isn't a third category or at least a permitted period between Taxed and needing SORN. My tax has run out (end of May) but I can't get the new one until I get through the MOT for which work is being done. Should I have a SORN even though I intend getting it back on the road as fast as possible?
Do agree that on the road must be taxed, but they seem to be taking the TV License route of if we have your address you must have a license, then check if you have a tellie once it gets to court.
Going SORN makes it that bit more complex when you want to re-tax.[/quote]
I see your point, but it is still easy to tax. I did mine online and car had been sorn for 5 months, only problem was I had to wait till 1st of the month to do it. :)
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Should be the same to retax?
to Sorn - 1 minute on line
to Unsorn - Buy tax as normal
Thats how I have done it in the past, online never had any issues thereafter re-taxing the car.
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The car may have been caught on camera on the way home from buying it.
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the only way they could of caught you on camera iz if you went through an ANPR camera set up but if you went through that then you would of been stopped by the old bill...and the other way iz a mobile private ANPR van and i did not think they operated outside of london yet??? i know that cause the firm i work for euro car parks runs a couple down london and they are waiting on the govt to allow em to operate in other parts of the country like on the bbc prog bailiffs....
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The van they were in had DVLA, NCP clamping division and speed camera logos on it.
The ignorant get said i'd been seen by a mobile van! But wouldn't give me any more details than that.
>:( >:(
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private anpr van then...came up untaxed on the computer but when they do a phone check cause you have a disablded badge it then shows up on the dvla system as taxed....they dont have direct access to the dvla servers i belive so their info may be not 100% upto date... the sign on the side of the van may well of indicated a National Car Parks partnership with the DVLA i know that they are in the running as we are for several council run off street parking enforcement contracts i was told this by my supervisor the other day....and trust me they will say its not profit run but we all know it is...
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The mobile ANPR vans have their own database not directly linked to the DVLA which needs to be regularly synchronized so it’s not always bang up to date. You may also have passed a fixed ANPR camera on the motorway which detected your vehicles SCORN status as they are everyway (London is defended by a whole ring on all entry roads) in modern Police state UK. They were set up under the guise of the prevention and detection of terrorism and serious crime but there use is gradually being moved into the revenue collection business which is far more profitable. The DVLA (or its private contractors / enforcers) then followed it up looking for some easy money from you by way of a fine. BTW your vehicle can also be clamped even if it’s on your own driveway pending you coming up with the cash. The whole system is now a ruthless money making operation completely devolved of any common sense.
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It was driven on a stretch of motorway which has variable speed limits (M40?)
although they were turned off they are a possibility
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It was driven on a stretch of motorway which has variable speed limits (M40?)
although they were turned off they are a possibility
No variable on M40, but is on M42 if you went anticlockwise around Brum...
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And I'm sure I said obey the M42 variable limit ;)
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No limit displayed, not about speeding anyway, just tax
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The ANPR camera's are completely separate to the speed enforcement camera's (that’s another jolly crew ;D). They are quite often much more covert and have been quietly installed on many major routes and every main road into London. Now you understand why Mr David Davies MP resigned to fight a campaign about the big brother state.
Obviously to gain public acceptance their anti terrorism and crime role was massively emphasised. Now they are in place its very tempting to use them for other purposes and make back some of the money to cover their running costs :y.
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got the impression he would have clamped had the car not been registered as a disabled vehicle, which i believe they are not supposed to clamp whilst on a public highway.
Jaime, i blame you for living down south!
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got the impression he would have clamped had the car not been registered as a disabled vehicle, which i believe they are not supposed to clamp whilst on a public highway.
Jaime, i blame you for living down south!
You can not clamp a car showing a blue badge, regardless of tax disc as blue badge can be used in a car that is not taxed as disabled. :)
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Not sure its the cameras as I walked up to the pub with my m8 the other evening there was 6 cars clamped in this way all on same road & yup no tax in windscreen so looks like its the wardens doing there rounds we thought it was good really as most of these guys probably dont have insurance either need i say more ! ;)
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Dont think it was wardens as it hasnt been on the road with no tax!
I wasnt displaying a blue badge at the time, but he did have to phone someone to check what to do!
>:(
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It could of been you passed a police car, marked or other wise and it trigged it's ANPR and they where "busy" with some thing - hense details passed on.
it could of been a neigbour who saw the car with no tax.
It could be all kinds of reasons, what the guy in the van doesn't need to be true.
To be fair the guy in the van might of been a bit of arse hole, but christ imagine the abuse he gets every day :)
TBH, I love the idea of camping untaxed cars, almost as much as I love the local policy of a HiHab and then a photo of the crushed and cubed motor been shown in the local press :)
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crush uninsured but when the new rates come in - a lot more people will be avoiding the tax - because £400 is too high for a lot of people - I cannot afford it
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Would have been nice for the clamper to be able to provide details of this alleged infringement.
Timescales, could have been anything as the DVLA only got our address 24 / 48 hours previous, as log book seems to have got lost.
scenario : clamper turns up to clamp untaxed car, shock horror, it is taxed......
hmmm, either an error, timing issue or a cloned car about?
Some communication would be nice!
Be interesting to see if this gets followed up by a letter or something.
Do love the Clamp / crush thing as well,
When we bought the car, the advert said taxed till the end of the month, so we were fine to drive it home, got there and it ran out at the end of the previous month, leaving us kinda stuck with no sensible option but to drive it home :( . It then stayed on the drive while I did a load of servicing on it, driving it twice briefly around our road after doing brakes & the exhaust (1/2 mile approx)