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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: humbucker on 12 June 2014, 17:05:06

Title: Front Subframes
Post by: humbucker on 12 June 2014, 17:05:06

Are the front subframes found on the Omega different between cars with different engines (four-pot / six-pot) or is it just the mounts that are different? Thanks.

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: davieboy0312 on 12 June 2014, 19:52:09

think there the same subframes mate

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: biggriffin on 12 June 2014, 21:35:26

Quote from: humbucker on 12 June 2014, 17:05:06

Are the front subframes found on the Omega different between cars with different engines (four-pot / six-pot) or is it just the mounts that are different? Thanks.

think mounts are different. why do you need one ::) ::) might have one

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 09:09:54

Thanks guys. Are the 2.0 / 2.2 mounts the same?

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 June 2014, 10:31:52

Quote from: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 09:09:54

Thanks guys. Are the 2.0 / 2.2 mounts the same?

2.0 and 2.2 same as engine is almost identical :y

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 10:37:15

Quote from: Taxi Al on 13 June 2014, 10:31:52

Quote from: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 09:09:54

Thanks guys. Are the 2.0 / 2.2 mounts the same?

2.0 and 2.2 same as engine is almost identical :y

Perfect. So, common subframes between V6 and four-pots, and mounts the same on 2.0 / 2.2. Nice one.

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2014, 10:56:37

I dont recall the V6 and 4 pot subframes being exactly the same, the straight six diesel is also certainly different from memory

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 11:02:34

Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2014, 10:56:37

I dont recall the V6 and 4 pot subframes being exactly the same, the straight six diesel is also certainly different from memory

Aha! The plot thickens...

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2014, 11:07:18

If someone has the pic from EPC it becomes quite obvious from memory (but its been a few years)

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: Entwood on 13 June 2014, 11:09:13

I'm not very good with the EPC .. but that doesn't list a "subframe" but does list a "front axle crossmember asssembly //which looks suspiciously like what I think is the subframe ....

It lists a LOT of different versions !!

17 CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE (NLS.- USE 9156600 3 02 028 ) 20SE, X20SE, X20XEV  -X1999999 (90445704) 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE 20SE, X20SE, X20XEV, Y22XE, Z22XE Y1000001-  9156600 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25XE, X30XE R1000001- R1127218 904457056
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE (NLS.- USE 9127270 3 02 023 ) X25XE, X30XE R1127219- S1097179 (90496649)
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE (NLS.- USE 9127270 3 02 023 ) X25XE, X30XE S1097180- X1999999 (90497931) 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25XE, Y26SE, X30XE, Y32SE Y1000001-  9127270
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE (NLS.- USE 9156602 3 02 030 ) X20DTH  -X1999999 (90539420) 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X20DTH, Y22DTH Y1000001-  9156602 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE (NLS.- USE 9156601 3 02 029 ) U25TD, X25TD  -X1999999 (90445706)
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25TD Y1000001-  9156601 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE Y25TD   9266156

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/819/htkl.jpg)

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Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2014, 11:15:48

Thanks Entwood, thats the part  :y

As I thought, removing the supersessions (as they are plug n play) gets:

  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE 20SE, X20SE, X20XEV, Y22XE, Z22XE Y1000001-  9156600 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25XE, X30XE R1000001- R1127218 904457056
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25XE, Y26SE, X30XE, Y32SE Y1000001-  9127270
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X20DTH, Y22DTH Y1000001-  9156602 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE X25TD Y1000001-  9156601 
  17  CROSSMEMBER, ASSY., FRONT AXLE Y25TD   9266156

So a single one for all 4 pot petrols (no surprise as they all use the same block pattern), a single one for all 4 pot diesels (again no surprise as they are a common block pattern), an early and late V6 one (2 in total, intereting as they must have made a change for some reason), a single straight six diesel with dis pump and a single straight six common rail diesel (not available in the Uk)

Title: Re: Front Subframes
Post by: humbucker on 13 June 2014, 11:29:33

Thanks guys.